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CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#1 » by MVP-3 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:51 am

"Miami is in top contention,'' Bosh said during a quiet moment at DJ Irie's charity golf tournament in Miami Beach. ``With the money they have, the cap space they have, the rights on Dwyane [Wade], him possibly staying. And just having a good organization; they are known as a first-class organization. Dwyane is going to be one of the greatest players in the history of the game when it's said and done.'


http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/27/v ... z0s2rxZ5Bx

As a Heat fan I am really excited. I'd take Bosh over Amare personally. I think Bosh might lack Amare's offense but still we have Wade (most likely) and Bosh is better at rebounding and defense too.


Also... to appease raptor fans who might bring it up.. the article also says
Bosh said yes but that he will not decide until he has met with suitors that interest him.


If you want to complain about it still, do it in this designated thread..
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#2 » by Senor Chang » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:10 am

But asked whether he would be willing to play center should the Heat keep Michael Beasley and/or re-sign Udonis Haslem, Bosh said, ``The thing I said when I came into free agency is I'm going to be a forward. I'm going to play my natural position.''

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/26/1 ... z0s1einbmI


what center is on your radar atm
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#3 » by Jimmy76 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:13 am

i_killed_kenny wrote:
But asked whether he would be willing to play center should the Heat keep Michael Beasley and/or re-sign Udonis Haslem, Bosh said, ``The thing I said when I came into free agency is I'm going to be a forward. I'm going to play my natural position.''

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/26/1 ... z0s1einbmI


what center is on your radar atm

they should go after kristic because
1. he's solid all around
2. wont cost much
3. the thunder dont need him and want him to opt out
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#4 » by jax98 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:24 am

Jimmy76 wrote:what center is on your radar atm

they should go after kristic because
1. he's solid all around
2. wont cost much
3. the thunder dont need him and want him to opt out[/quote]

I see your Krstic, and raise you Brendan Haywood.

Yes, he'll cost more. But he's a defensive anchor and they can afford him. Bosh wouldn't have to play C at all, and his defensive shortcomings will be hidden by Haywood, whos is an excellent defensive-minded center.

C Brendan Haywood
F Chris Bosh
F Whoever they get for Michael Beasley
G Dwyane Wade
G Mario Chalmers
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#5 » by MVP-3 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:24 am

i_killed_kenny wrote:
But asked whether he would be willing to play center should the Heat keep Michael Beasley and/or re-sign Udonis Haslem, Bosh said, ``The thing I said when I came into free agency is I'm going to be a forward. I'm going to play my natural position.''

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/26/1 ... z0s1einbmI


what center is on your radar atm



We are most likely going to go for a veteran. IF Bosh or Amare sign we still have around 12-13million. The general understanding that I get from the Miami board is that we should spend that on Haywood. I;m not really a fan of his though. I personally think sign and trade Haslem (while we have his rights), Chalmers and Toronto's first round pick for Collison and Okafor. The only downside in that is Collison is a gamble he played great in NO system but it was designed for the PG to be the vocal point and Okafor is kind of small.
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#6 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:36 am

So much for that Bosh quote that he wants to be the centerpiece on his team.
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Post#7 » by Jimmy76 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:41 am

Morten Jensen wrote:
I see your Krstic, and raise you Brendan Haywood.

Yes, he'll cost more. But he's a defensive anchor and they can afford him. Bosh wouldn't have to play C at all, and his defensive shortcomings will be hidden by Haywood, whos is an excellent defensive-minded center.

C Brendan Haywood
F Chris Bosh
F Whoever they get for Michael Beasley
G Dwyane Wade
G Mario Chalmers

yeah but that doesnt help the thunder as much
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#8 » by Philly KDub » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:42 am

I'm going to say this. If Miami gets rid of Haslem, I think they will regret it. He's that type of player you WANT and NEED on a championship-caliber roster. He defends, rebounds, and can score when needed. I do like Haywood defensively but Haslem brings intangibles that Haywood doesn't have.

If Riley is wise, he will re-sign Haslem.
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Post#9 » by MVP-3 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:14 am

adamcz wrote:So much for that Bosh quote that he wants to be the centerpiece on his team.


That video looked old. Probably around the time the hero Turk came or when the raps had a winning streak.


KDubbz wrote:I'm going to say this. If Miami gets rid of Haslem, I think they will regret it. He's that type of player you WANT and NEED on a championship-caliber roster. He defends, rebounds, and can score when needed. I do like Haywood defensively but Haslem brings intangibles that Haywood doesn't have.

If Riley is wise, he will re-sign Haslem.



The irony is I don't think we have enough for Haslem. Haslem is worth more then we want for a 6th man.
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Post#10 » by PMC » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:25 am

Bosh doesn't lack Amare's offense. Bosh has scored more PPG and gotten to the line more these last 2 seasons. Amare has a higher FG% but that can be explained by Nash feeding him under the basket.
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#11 » by Philly KDub » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:29 am

MVP-3, Haslem should not be a 6th man. He should be their starting PF. If Bosh really wants to win, he would be willing to play center. I really don't understand why some players complain about playing the 4 or 5. Honestly, there's not much difference between the 4 and 5. Bosh has the size to play center.

Unfortunately, Udonis probably deserves at least $8 million per year in today's market. Miami can afford 3 MAX guys but if they are smart, they would just sign Wade and Bosh then give Haslem the money for him to stay. They will still have some cash left to bolster their bench depth.

It's hard to find guys like Haslem nowadays. Guys like him can really help a championship-caliber team.
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Post#12 » by NADALbULLS » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:34 am

Noah is a fine center, he'd accommodate Bosh's softness.
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#13 » by Philly KDub » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:36 am

NADALbULLS wrote:Noah is a fine center, he'd accommodate Bosh's softness.


That's probably why Bosh doesn't want to play center due to his softness.
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#14 » by ropjhk » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:01 pm

KDubbz wrote:MVP-3, Haslem should not be a 6th man. He should be their starting PF. If Bosh really wants to win, he would be willing to play center. I really don't understand why some players complain about playing the 4 or 5. Honestly, there's not much difference between the 4 and 5. Bosh has the size to play center.

Unfortunately, Udonis probably deserves at least $8 million per year in today's market. Miami can afford 3 MAX guys but if they are smart, they would just sign Wade and Bosh then give Haslem the money for him to stay. They will still have some cash left to bolster their bench depth.

It's hard to find guys like Haslem nowadays. Guys like him can really help a championship-caliber team.


If Miami wants to win, they'll have Bosh playing PF. Bosh may have the height, but he doesn't have the strength to play C. There's more of a difference between PF and C than you probably realize.
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Post#15 » by mopper8 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:08 pm

If Miami wants to sign Bosh, they'll have to promise him he won't play C, as he made very clear in the linked-to article:

But asked whether he would be willing to play center should the Heat keep Michael Beasley and/or re-sign Udonis Haslem, Bosh said, ``The thing I said when I came into free agency is I'm going to be a forward. I'm going to play my natural position.''
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#16 » by Chosen01 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:46 pm

Yea, Bosh has already hinted that his interest in Miami, this confirms it, unless Beasley is trained to play Small forward or Riley likes him as the 6th man, hes good as gone.

Its either Beasley or Haslem that is staying, but with Haslem he'll likely get 7+ mil elsewhere if he wanted and he was able to get his minutes from Beasley and the likes of Joel Anothony. With Bosh, he won't play that many minutes because Bosh will play 35+ minutes compared to Beasley's 29. So it'll be harder to accommodate. I can see the heat keeping Beasley at worst, use him off the bench because he can play the SF and PF spot.
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Post#17 » by BBallFreak » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:00 pm

Honestly, I could see Miami giving Joel Anthony a deal starting around $3 million a season. He'd probably be a very nice compliment to Bosh. Defense and shot blocking, along with garbage buckets should work next to Bosh's smooth offense...
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#18 » by Chosen01 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:07 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Honestly, I could see Miami giving Joel Anthony a deal starting around $3 million a season. He'd probably be a very nice compliment to Bosh. Defense and shot blocking, along with garbage buckets should work next to Bosh's smooth offense...

They'll probably go for Haywood first,Cuban will probably match offer... If so then its probably Joel.
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Post#19 » by BBallFreak » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:34 pm

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BBallFreak wrote:Honestly, I could see Miami giving Joel Anthony a deal starting around $3 million a season. He'd probably be a very nice compliment to Bosh. Defense and shot blocking, along with garbage buckets should work next to Bosh's smooth offense...

They'll probably go for Haywood first,Cuban will probably match offer... If so then its probably Joel.

Haywood isn't restricted. It depends on how he feels about Dallas vs. Miami and the sales pitch the Heat makes to him. They would be able to sign him to a deal starting around $10 million (though that would be overpaying). The problem is, you're then filling out the rest of the roster with minimum salaried player. We could still trade Beasley this offseason. I'm hoping that, if Bron leaves, Mo Williams becomes an option. You could probably bring in Q-Rich, Joe Smith, Jamaal Magloire, and maybe a Raja Bell for the veteran minimum:

Pg: Williams / Chalmers
Sg: Wade / Bell
Sf: Q-Rich /
Pf: Bosh / Smith
Cc: Haywood / Magloire / Pittman

I'm hoping for Anthony. Then, I'd like to see Miami find a decent third option making around $7 million to trade for (like Mo Williams for Beasley, if Bron bolts) and use the remainder of their space on Haslem (at $4 million) and Wright (at $3 million). They could then sign Q-Rich and Bell to the veteran minimum, and bring back Magloire.

Pg: Williams / Chalmers
Sg: Wade / Bell
Sf: Q-Rich / Wright / Butler
Pf: Bosh / Haslem / Varnado
Cc: Anthony / Magloire / Pittman

Unfortunately, other than Haywood, their are no centers this year to go out and spend a fortune on. He's not worth it IMO...
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Re: CB4: "Miami is in top contention" 

Post#20 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:19 pm

KDubbz wrote:I'm going to say this. If Miami gets rid of Haslem, I think they will regret it. He's that type of player you WANT and NEED on a championship-caliber roster. He defends, rebounds, and can score when needed. I do like Haywood defensively but Haslem brings intangibles that Haywood doesn't have.

If Riley is wise, he will re-sign Haslem.


No they wont. Did you forget the playoff where he shot what %.35 and thats on dishes from Wade. At least JO was hurt so that helped explain why he performed so poorly. You need size and tallent to win.

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