1970 NBA Finals Game 7 breakdown - Jerry West sucks

globarticles · Post #1 » by **globarticles** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:03 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMp7c2bcfkk[/youtube]

I didn't know the guy can't use his left. My goodness.

99 Problems · Post #2 » by **99 Problems** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:06 am

Logo should be changed to Jordan...

RunMCR · Post #3 » by **RunMCR** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:10 am

yeah i was watching it today..lmao at anybody saying he would average 25-5-5..Dude would average 25 turnovers with those handles.

Guy986 · Post #4 » by **Guy986** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:28 am

My problem with the games in the 60s and 70s is that it appears that nobody plays hard. This is game 7 of the nba finals and nobody hustles. They all jog up and down the court in half assed speed. Its easy to play 48 mins this way. When i was a kid, i could play 4 hours straight in the playground by jogging up and down the court playing absolutely no defense and not boxing out. So i'm not that impressed by the "stamina" of the old aged legends.

LascelleL · Post #5 » by **LascelleL** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:33 am

Wow.......

JellosJigglin · Post #6 » by **JellosJigglin** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:07 am

I disagree.

nonemus · Post #7 » by **nonemus** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:10 am

RunMCR wrote:yeah i was watching it today..lmao at anybody saying he would average 25-5-5..Dude would average 25 turnovers with those handles.

Yeah, I 10000% agree. Jerry West is a scrub. All those dominating playoff performances were just flukes.

superv · Post #8 » by **superv** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:18 am

so many ignorant posters looking through their colored glasses. Kind of pathetic how opinions are naively formed by lack of context.

Patterns · Post #9 » by **Patterns** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:22 am

nonemus wrote:
RunMCR wrote:yeah i was watching it today..lmao at anybody saying he would average 25-5-5..Dude would average 25 turnovers with those handles.

Yeah, I 10000% agree. Jerry West is a scrub. All those dominating playoff performances were just flukes.

I think you are being sarcastic.

I think the people who believe that West's game would transfer to today's game is completely wrong. West was great in his era but his game will absolutely not transfer. Even high school kids can dribble with their left hand.

Soap345 · Post #10 » by **Soap345** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:53 am

They use to call carries. IF west was allowed to carry I am sure he would have had no trouble with the left hand

Dipper 13 · Post #11 » by **Dipper 13** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:21 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UsLn9IjEhc

5:12 mark

Great drive with his left hand against an excellent defender in Siegfried.

'68 Lakers vs. 76ers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iekMMEQBkk

malcrk · Post #12 » by **malcrk** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:38 am

Coach Nick is awesome as hell. I love watching his breakdowns. inb4 he becomes the heat coach.

doctorfunk · Post #13 » by **doctorfunk** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:40 am

99 Problems wrote:Logo should be changed to Jordan...

NO JUST NO
would just add more fuel to mj demi-god status, change it Nique or anybody else
Sundiata gaines would be fine too

globarticles · Post #14 » by **globarticles** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:29 pm

Patterns wrote:I think the people who believe that West's game would transfer to today's game is completely wrong. West was great in his era but his game will absolutely not transfer. Even high school kids can dribble with their left hand.

Well said. Technically, West could dribble with his left though. But maybe it's only very basic dribbling, which is why he's very uncomfortable doing it. Definitely won't cut it in today's NBA.

hourockman · Post #15 » by **hourockman** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:38 pm

Well, in that case, I'm going to pick 1 (ONE) of his best games to base his entire career on. Pff... This board needs an enema.

Lamak · Post #16 » by **Lamak** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:07 pm

Guy986 wrote:My problem with the games in the 60s and 70s is that it appears that nobody plays hard. This is game 7 of the nba finals and nobody hustles. They all jog up and down the court in half assed speed. Its easy to play 48 mins this way. When i was a kid, i could play 4 hours straight in the playground by jogging up and down the court playing absolutely no defense and not boxing out. So i'm not that impressed by the "stamina" of the old aged legends.

+1. Looks like everyone was hungover.

Dr Pepper · Post #17 » by **Dr Pepper** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:33 pm

Guy986 wrote:My problem with the games in the 60s and 70s is that it appears that nobody plays hard. This is game 7 of the nba finals and nobody hustles. They all jog up and down the court in half assed speed. Its easy to play 48 mins this way. When i was a kid, i could play 4 hours straight in the playground by jogging up and down the court playing absolutely no defense and not boxing out. So i'm not that impressed by the "stamina" of the old aged legends.

Bah humbug to your post. Considering its game 7 of the NBA Finals its understandable that the players look tired. As for hustling, playing hard, and not boxing out...the Lakers must've had 2-4 game-winning buzzer beaters in the recent playoffs that were easy putbacks from Kobe's misses which were a direct result of not enough hustle, boxing out, etc. from today's incredibly pampered athletes. In the recent Game 7 the players also looked tired and they also didn't look like they were giving 100% if that was one of the only samples you had of them. Not to mention it was almost a different game in West's days considering the absence of the 3 point line and a wide number of other rules differences.

TDG26 · Post #18 » by **TDG26** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:22 pm

Dr Pepper wrote:
Guy986 wrote:My problem with the games in the 60s and 70s is that it appears that nobody plays hard. This is game 7 of the nba finals and nobody hustles. They all jog up and down the court in half assed speed. Its easy to play 48 mins this way. When i was a kid, i could play 4 hours straight in the playground by jogging up and down the court playing absolutely no defense and not boxing out. So i'm not that impressed by the "stamina" of the old aged legends.

Bah humbug to your post. Considering its game 7 of the NBA Finals its understandable that the players look tired. As for hustling, playing hard, and not boxing out...the Lakers must've had 2-4 game-winning buzzer beaters in the recent playoffs that were easy putbacks from Kobe's misses which were a direct result of not enough hustle, boxing out, etc. from today's incredibly pampered athletes. In the recent Game 7 the players also looked tired and they also didn't look like they were giving 100% if that was one of the only samples you had of them. Not to mention it was almost a different game in West's days considering the absence of the 3 point line and a wide number of other rules differences.

If there was one thing and only one thing to take from game 7 last year was that it was a hard fought physical battle.

ShelB · Post #19 » by **ShelB** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:49 pm

Wilt is a ball stopper, wow. Never knew it was THAT bad.

shawngoat23 · Post #20 » by **shawngoat23** » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:24 pm

Soap345 wrote:They use to call carries. IF west was allowed to carry I am sure he would have had no trouble with the left hand

This. I can't remember the last possession I saw (in any level of basketball) where players no longer cup the side of the ball with their hands, where they don't use hop steps, etc. Even when Walt Frazier busts out a "flashy" maneuver with his behind-the-back dribble, notice how clean and technically sound it is compared to dribbles we see today in which the entire palm is cupped around the side of the ball.

That's not to say that I think the rule changes are bad--it's certainly made perimeter basketball a lot more exciting offensively, and it's probably a good change for the marketability and the popularity of the game. But it's still necessary to recognize context when we're watching older legends.