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Serious Q-Why do many teams ban ____

Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:10 am
by gino_giode
Why do so many teams wag the finger at headbands and leg sleeves (tights?)?

Headbands keep sweat out of the eyes so players don't have to rub their eyes so much, hence reducing the risk of eye infections,etc (since the ball is pretty much a pool of bacteria with guys like Crawford licking their fingers every freakin time).

And leggings or whatever keep legs warm and constricts them allowing for compensatory increase in blood flow to the legs, hence reducing risk of leg injuries.

When the hell did headbands become gangster? And I dunno what the beef is with the leggings. Perhaps feminine/gay?

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:12 am
by areg789
Nba headbands got banned?

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:12 am
by pross
gino_giode wrote:Why do so many teams wag the finger at headbands and leg sleeves (tights?)?

Headbands keep sweat out of the eyes so players don't have to rub their eyes so much, hence reducing the risk of eye infections,etc (since the ball is pretty much a pool of bacteria with guys like Crawford licking their fingers every freakin time).

And leggings or whatever keep legs warm and constricts them allowing for compensatory increase in blood flow to the legs, hence reducing risk of leg injuries.

When the hell did headbands become gangster? And I dunno what the beef is with the leggings. Perhaps feminine/gay?


When has anyone ever got an eye infection from NOT wearing a headband? I've played bball for over 12 years and that's never happened nor anyone that I know. WOW

Re: Serious Q-Why do many teams ban ____

Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:14 am
by gino_giode
^Doesn't mean the risk isn't there

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:16 am
by gino_giode
areg789 wrote:Nba headbands got banned?


Not league wide, but some teams have a "No headbands" rule

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:17 am
by areg789
gino_giode wrote:
areg789 wrote:Nba headbands got banned?


Not league wide, but some teams have a "No headbands" rule

Oh didn't know that

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:28 am
by Tave
gino_giode wrote:^Doesn't mean the risk isn't there


There's a risk that I'm going to get hit by a meteor tomorrow, but I don't plan on wearing a tinfoil hat when I wake up.


As far as the leggings go, the last time I checked, arenas are heated, so I'm not sure why players' legs would be getting cold.

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:29 am
by alucryts
bulls are one of the teams. i think its just a looks thing honestly. like the yankees require short hair etc some teams dont like head bands worn by their players

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:39 am
by johnny-oh
Tave wrote:
gino_giode wrote:There's a risk that I'm going to get hit by a meteor tomorrow, but I don't plan on wearing a tinfoil hat when I wake up.

How would a tinfoil hat save you from a meteor? awful example

Re: Serious Q-Why do many teams ban ____

Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:41 am
by gino_giode
Tave wrote:
gino_giode wrote:^Doesn't mean the risk isn't there


There's a risk that I'm going to get hit by a meteor tomorrow, but I don't plan on wearing a tinfoil hat when I wake up.


As far as the leggings go, the last time I checked, arenas are heated, so I'm not sure why players' legs would be getting cold.


Bravo for that insightful comparison.

FFS, I was just rationalizing the use of headbands other than the obvious quick sweat cloth.

As for heated arenas, jeez, you think the body's physiological temperature is room temp? Leggings keep the legs warm and promote vasodilation (ie: wear a sweater, you sweat because vessels dilate-->more blood reaches the heated area-->body maintains homeostasis by releasing water to cool). And by constricting the legs, they slightly restrict blood flow (ie: squeezing the vessels) so again, homeostasis reaction is to increase blood pressure and increase blood flow to that area (think about how they test BP with the pressure cuff, they test for ideal physiological reaction of a certain range in BP)

If you're still not following, think about why so many players wear shooting sleeves? Or yeah, arenas are heated so they're just wearing them for fashion (partly true I suppose).

Re: Serious Q-Why do many teams ban ____

Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:43 am
by sacking123
gino_giode wrote:Why do so many teams wag the finger at headbands and leg sleeves (tights?)?

Headbands keep sweat out of the eyes so players don't have to rub their eyes so much, hence reducing the risk of eye infections,etc (since the ball is pretty much a pool of bacteria with guys like Crawford licking their fingers every freakin time).

And leggings or whatever keep legs warm and constricts them allowing for compensatory increase in blood flow to the legs, hence reducing risk of leg injuries.

When the hell did headbands become gangster? And I dunno what the beef is with the leggings. Perhaps feminine/gay?

Am I the only one that has never seen a player rubbing their eyes? Wiping the sweat off their brow yes, but rubbing their eyes?
The leggings could actually be a rule. I am not certain about the NBA, but in some leagues around the world players are not permitted to wear them. I think it is for the same reason as you said why they are good (in a way of having an unfair advantage). I know that sounds backward, but sometimes in sports the people that make decisions aren't up with the times and can't see the benefit of advancements in technology.

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:51 am
by gino_giode
simonbampfield wrote:
gino_giode wrote:Why do so many teams wag the finger at headbands and leg sleeves (tights?)?

Headbands keep sweat out of the eyes so players don't have to rub their eyes so much, hence reducing the risk of eye infections,etc (since the ball is pretty much a pool of bacteria with guys like Crawford licking their fingers every freakin time).

And leggings or whatever keep legs warm and constricts them allowing for compensatory increase in blood flow to the legs, hence reducing risk of leg injuries.

When the hell did headbands become gangster? And I dunno what the beef is with the leggings. Perhaps feminine/gay?

Am I the only one that has never seen a player rubbing their eyes? Wiping the sweat off their brow yes, but rubbing their eyes?
The leggings could actually be a rule. I am not certain about the NBA, but in some leagues around the world players are not permitted to wear them. I think it is for the same reason as you said why they are good (in a way of having an unfair advantage). I know that sounds backward, but sometimes in sports the people that make decisions aren't up with the times and can't see the benefit of advancements in technology.


Do you think the padded compression shorts/undershirts are considered in that same regard? They definitely provide an advantage but they're not fussed over (IMO, because they're not seen).

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:58 am
by sacking123
gino_giode wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:
gino_giode wrote:Why do so many teams wag the finger at headbands and leg sleeves (tights?)?

Headbands keep sweat out of the eyes so players don't have to rub their eyes so much, hence reducing the risk of eye infections,etc (since the ball is pretty much a pool of bacteria with guys like Crawford licking their fingers every freakin time).

And leggings or whatever keep legs warm and constricts them allowing for compensatory increase in blood flow to the legs, hence reducing risk of leg injuries.

When the hell did headbands become gangster? And I dunno what the beef is with the leggings. Perhaps feminine/gay?

Am I the only one that has never seen a player rubbing their eyes? Wiping the sweat off their brow yes, but rubbing their eyes?
The leggings could actually be a rule. I am not certain about the NBA, but in some leagues around the world players are not permitted to wear them. I think it is for the same reason as you said why they are good (in a way of having an unfair advantage). I know that sounds backward, but sometimes in sports the people that make decisions aren't up with the times and can't see the benefit of advancements in technology.


Do you think the padded compression shorts/undershirts are considered in that same regard? They definitely provide an advantage but they're not fussed over (IMO, because they're not seen).

Yeah they do the same sort of thing and they are allowed, not sure if its all over the world, can only speak from experience, but it just seems to be the full length leggings. They really do work as well. I wear them for football (aussie rules) training and they are great, allows my legs to pull up a little better and I know a lot of people sleep in them for recovery.

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 6:59 am
by Dr Pepper
Style, unity, organization's culture/history, old school attitude against them, tennis, etc.

Imo it looks a little sloppy to see teams where 3/5 guys on the court are wearing headbands; doesn't look like as uniform as a team "should" but to each their own.

Doesn't help that tennis players wear 'em as well and that might go back into the old school kind of bias against them.

Leave the accessories to women and all that macho stuff.

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 7:01 am
by dn0774
I'm pretty sure the leggings was a league wide ban after they really caught on in the 2002-2003 season. As for headbands, its just team preference. Many teams make exceptions to their own rules (see Lebron with the Heat). I think Lebron could've requested that he be allowed to take a **** on Pat Rileys desk once a day and they would have signed off on it...thats how free agency goes sometimes, whichever team is willing to cater to the star more will sign him.

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 7:08 am
by gino_giode
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the whole headband crackdown come when Stern instigated a bunch of dress codes to stray away from the hip-hop/gangsta look?

I remember some player getting flak for wearing his band tilted, and even Rondo for wearing his upside down.

As for looks and leggings, I remember Kobe getting asked a lot by the media about his "stockings", thus people associated them with feminine stockings.

I'm just confused why they stopped being used because YES, they are protective and promote less injuries--thus leading to better sustained performances from NBA athletes=better product=more money

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 9:15 am
by TrueChampion
I honestly prefer that they banned the leggings, it was starting to look a little silly with all these guys wearing tights.
At the same time, a ton of top flight guys were doing it. I remember right before they banned it, Kobe and Wade were some of the stars doing it just to name a few. If it makes these guys feel more comfortable and there is actually any sort of legitimate evidence for them preventing injury, then why not allow them.

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 10:02 am
by MaceCase
Only teams with crotchety old men get rid of headbands. The Bulls got rid of them because they felt their young players at the time (Crawford, Curry, etc) were setting a bad cultural statement and the headband was directly responsible for losing.
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Scott Skiles took the policy with him out to Milwaukee and only bent backwards for Charlie Villanueva but I'm sure he did so begrudgingly.
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Randy Wittman while with the Timberwolves required that a player "earn" the right to wear a headband thus no rookie could wear one including Corey Brewer.
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"Old school" coaches/gms such as Nate McMillan, Jerry Sloan and Patt Riley also have a no headband rule but Riley made a special exception for Jermaine O'neal due to his comically oversized forehead but once Lebron came to town that rule was done away with because what Lebron wants Lebron gets.
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McMillan broke his longtime rule that dated back to Seattle for Gerald Wallace but I'm sure Wallace argued with him that his headband possesses special padding to prevent further concussions
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Sloan preferred to retire rather than acquiesce to his players' demands so Deron continues to wear a headband as continual FU to his old coach.
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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 10:09 am
by Jimmy Recard
^^ :rofl:

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Posted: Thu May 5, 2011 10:19 am
by NOODLESTYLE
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2390599

League and team sources have told ESPN.com that the NBA, starting next season, intends to ban the tights sported at various points this season by several players, including three MVP candidates: Kobe Bryant, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade.

Players who wish to wear tights are required to send the league a written request from a team doctor detailing a "medical need" for the leggings. That's because the league, according to sources, believes that some players are merely wearing them because they like the look.