Ricky Rubio struggling in Eurobasket...

MIK AGER · Post #1 » by **MIK AGER** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:10 am

Rubio had a very rough outing in his opening game of Eurobasket 2011, he played 15 minutes and tallied 0 points (0-5 shooting), 0 assists, 2 turnovers and 2 steals... I'm really not seeing superstar potential with this dude.

http://www.eurobasket2011.com/en/cid_4, ... 53827.html

This terrible shooting from Rubio isn't just a one game aberration either year after year he's been a liability from a scoring standpoint.

Blazing_royale · Post #2 » by **Blazing_royale** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:13 am

euro rondo

J~Rush · Post #3 » by **J~Rush** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:17 am

Holy Sample Size Batman

eslr · Post #4 » by **eslr** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:25 am

J~Rush wrote:Holy Sample Size Batman

If you want sample size, look at his entire euro career so far.

Granted he was like 16 when he started, but the kid has never put up impressive numbers.

Career highs in euroleague:
6.8 ppg 4.1 apg 3.3 rpg .370 fg% .358 3p%

Career highs in spanish league:
10.2ppg 5.8 apg 3.3 rpg .407 fg%

And those numbers are cherry picking each stat from different years.

So, using his entire career as a sample size, he has never been special.

J~Rush · Post #5 » by **J~Rush** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:28 am

5.8 apg in europe is ~ 10 apg in the NBA. How many guys in the NBA average that many assists? 3? 4?

It's certainly much better than the 0/0/0/2 performance used as proof by the OP at the very least.

jngshin · Post #6 » by **jngshin** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:31 am

To above poster: If this is true I should be watching Euroleague, but I know it's not true. It's not simply that NBA basketball is more role-centric, so the point guard racks up much more assists than the more system-based offenses of the Euroleague. It's that I don't believe Euroleague players are generally that good. Yes, point guards get more opportunities for assists in the NBA, but the level of play is higher also.

eslr · Post #7 » by **eslr** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:40 am

J~Rush wrote:5.8 apg in europe is ~ 10 apg in the NBA. How many guys in the NBA average that many assists? 3? 4?

It's certainly much better than the 0/0/0/2 performance used as proof by the OP at the very least.

Well, I guess.

Last season the following players had more apg in the spanish league than him:
Marcelo Huerta
Omar Cook
D. Ciorciari
Kristaps Valters

None of those guys will even sniff the NBA. There are too many guys in the euroleague to list that have more assists per game than him (14 total). And that ignores his god awful efficiency (again, .407 was his CAREER high. Last season he shot .320 from the field in ACB) and defense.

I dont know how its even up for discussion. Rubio hasnt acheived anything in europe. even his staunchest supporters will admit that. He has potential, but it has nothing to do with anything he has accomplished. He is like Marvin Williams when Marvin was drafted.

J~Rush · Post #8 » by **J~Rush** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:40 am

jngshin wrote:To above poster: If this is true I should be watching Euroleague, but I know it's not true. It's not simply that NBA basketball is more role-centric, so the point guard racks up much more assists than the more system-based offenses of the Euroleague. It's that I don't believe Euroleague players are generally that good. Yes, point guards get more opportunities for assists in the NBA, but the level of play is higher also.

I wasn't talking about skill level or competition, but just how assists are judged. Assists in the NBA are often given even if the offensive player made a move to score after getting the ball. In international basketball assists are really only given when the pass led directly to a basket.

J~Rush · Post #9 » by **J~Rush** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:43 am

eslr wrote:
J~Rush wrote:5.8 apg in europe is ~ 10 apg in the NBA. How many guys in the NBA average that many assists? 3? 4?

It's certainly much better than the 0/0/0/2 performance used as proof by the OP at the very least.

None of those guys will even sniff the NBA. There are too many guys in the euroleague with more assist to list that were ahead of him (14 total). And that ignores his god awful efficiency and defense.

Rubio hasnt acheived anything in europe. even his staunchest supporters will admit that.

He has achieved quite a bit (from wikipedia):

Joventut

Spanish King's Cup (1): 2008
EuroChallenge (1): 2006
Eurocup (1): 2008
Catalan Cup Tournament (3): 2005, 2007, 2008

FC Barcelona Basquet

Spanish League (1): 2010–11
Spanish King's Cup (2): 2010, 2011
Euroleague (1): 2010
Spanish Supercup (2): 2009, 2010
Catalan Cup Tournament (2): 2009, 2010

Spanish national team

FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship: Bronze Medal (2005)
FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship: Gold Medal (2006)
2008 Olympics Basketball Tournament: Silver Medal
2009 FIBA European Championship: Gold Medal

Personal awards

MVP of the FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship: he averaged 22.3 points, 12.8 rebounds, 7.1 assists, 6.5 steals. In the final, accumulated 51 points, 24 rebounds, 12 assists and 11 steals.
2× led the Spanish ACB League in steals: (2007, 2009)
Won the Spanish ACB League Rising Star Award: (2007)
3× FIBA European Young Player of the Year: (2007, 2008, 2009)
2× Spanish ACB League's Best Point Guard: (2008, 2010)
2× All-Spanish ACB League Team: (2008, 2010)
European Player of the Year: Mr. Europa: (2008)
Spanish ACB League Defensive Player of the Year: (2009)
Catalan Cup Tournament MVP: (2009)
Euroleague Rising Star: (2010)
Won the Spanish ACB League Top 5 Trophy: Most Spectacular Player of the Year (2010)

And also I would say he is a good defender, not awful. I'm not sure why you think that.

cpfsf · Post #10 » by **cpfsf** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 5:48 am

There is very little purpose in making a thread after any game Rubio played in because it just turns into a thread about Rubio's overall career. That's pretty stupid since that's been discussed more than enough times, but it was just reworded to make it seem new again.

AdamTheGreek · Post #11 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 6:06 am

It is just one game.

In fairness, Sada and Calderon sucked ass as well.

Gasol brothers and Navarro were the only ones who showed up.

Post #12 » by **Klomp** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 6:10 am

He's likely still recovering from a left ankle sprain he suffered a little over a week ago.

Mamba Venom · Post #13 » by **Mamba Venom** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 6:36 am

They record stats in Europe. Doesn't that offend their famous team first mindset?

mrblunt · Post #14 » by **mrblunt** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 6:40 am

Rubio is a over hyped bust. Move along nothing to see here.

KiNgSbOi · Post #15 » by **KiNgSbOi** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 8:25 am

Can't say I'm surprised to hear that. I don't wish bad on the kid but people really need to leave him alone until he plays a full season in the NBA and make further evaluation from there.

Brett · Post #16 » by **Brett** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 8:37 am

The 7 games before this:

16 MPG - 4 PPG, 4.15 RPG, 4.3 APG.

That would translate to 8.6 APG in 32 minutes on a team where his role and opportunities as a playmaker are significantly less than what he'll have in the NBA.

He's going to shoot a terrible FG% at first but will also fill up the box score and have a positive impact far more often than not.

KV20 · Post #17 » by **KV20** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 9:03 am

Rubio is like Rondo, but he hasn't the fundamentals of rondo and can't finish at the rim.
In the nba he will be like Rondo without the Big 3 around him. So, he won't help his team win more game in the nba, but will put a lot of higlights and stats.

avalize · Post #18 » by **avalize** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 9:07 am

jngshin wrote:To above poster: If this is true I should be watching Euroleague, but I know it's not true.

Actually, it is true, and if you were watching Euroleague, you'd know that.

Foye · Post #19 » by **Foye** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 9:21 am

He's a complete bust. He should even go to the NBA because he had a bad game against Poland. Really, he's going to end up a poor man's Sebastian Telfair. Minnesota was so dumb to take him 5th. He's never going to play for them anyway. Kahn sucks for taking him so high, what a douche he is.

Rubio's going to get killed by opposing defenders, his passing isn't even that good and his career FG% will be 0.27, while putting up 3 pts and 4 assists in 38 minutes.

How can anyone believe this overrated scrub will make it in the NBA?

So, I did all the trolling. Thread can be closed now.

pross · Post #20 » by **pross** » Thu Sep 1, 2011 9:41 am

KV20 wrote:Rubio is like Rondo, but he hasn't the fundamentals of rondo and can't finish at the rim.
In the nba he will be like Rondo without the Big 3 around him. So, he won't help his team win more game in the nba, but will put a lot of higlights and stats.

You do know that when any of the Big 3 aren't playing that Rondo's stats actually get better. People who say he is nothing without them is a joke. Yes he can't shoot, but he is nearly better in every other aspect of the game in comparison to other PG's.