Well reading what I read I got a clear understanding on how this will go down, but I won't devolve the details here.dockingsched wrote:DEEP3CL wrote:Which is exactly what will happen from the info I read through another source. The OP still had the gist of it right.Courtside wrote:That said, I think the OP is misunderstanding the TPE.
So the only way the Odom TPE can be used to absorb Hedo, for example, is if they make it a simultaneous, multi-team transaction between LA, Dallas and Orlando.
no he doesn't he's completely misunderstanding simultaneous vs. non simultaneous trades.
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
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DEEP3CL wrote:Nice find man....irrefutable facts that guys here claimed couldn't happen, like they had all the answers without ever finding the facts. Nice work.
Fun to see someone say "irrefutable" then watch people refute it.
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[no he doesn't he's completely misunderstanding simultaneous vs. non simultaneous trades.[/quote]Well reading what I read I got a clear understanding on how this will go down, but I won't devolve the details here.[/quote]
Go ahead and devolve the details.
Go ahead and devolve the details.
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Yeah whateva.....facepalm dude.the_warden wrote:DEEP3CL wrote:Nice find man....irrefutable facts that guys here claimed couldn't happen, like they had all the answers without ever finding the facts. Nice work.
Fun to see someone say "irrefutable" then watch people refute it.
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DEEP3CL wrote:the_warden wrote:Fun to see someone say "irrefutable" then watch people refute it.
Yeah whateva.....facepalm dude.
He's right, you're wrong, and you're the one saying 'whateva'? LOL
How about you 'devolve' (sic) the way the trade might go down, then, to regain some cred?
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Okkay never mind then, i mis-interpreted the text. Guess it has to be a 3 team deal to get this thing done then
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DEEP3CL wrote:Well reading what I read I got a clear understanding on how this will go down, but I won't devolve the details here.
I just finished extensive research on some double secret information that you're clearly full of ****, but I'm going to keep it to myself, as it's just too important to reveal here.
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if the LO trade isn't yet official, there's still a chance it could be simultaneous... which means the lakers could absorb hedo's contract, right? i may be missing a detal, but a simultaneous trade could lead to:
lakers send LO + 2nd rounder to dallas for TPE (which can absorb 12.25M) + 1st rounder
lakers send bynum + TPE (up to $12.25M) + 2 first rounders to orlando
orlando sends dwight howard and hedo to the lakers
lakers amnesty hedo
in effect, the lakers would be allowing orlando to get andrew bynum, $34 in cap relief by getting rid of hedo (PLUS the 9 million (LO's $8.9M + $100,00) and 2 first rounders.
lakers send LO + 2nd rounder to dallas for TPE (which can absorb 12.25M) + 1st rounder
lakers send bynum + TPE (up to $12.25M) + 2 first rounders to orlando
orlando sends dwight howard and hedo to the lakers
lakers amnesty hedo
in effect, the lakers would be allowing orlando to get andrew bynum, $34 in cap relief by getting rid of hedo (PLUS the 9 million (LO's $8.9M + $100,00) and 2 first rounders.
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misterrunon wrote:if the LO trade isn't yet official, there's still a chance it could be simultaneous... which means the lakers could absorb hedo's contract, right? i may be missing a detal, but a simultaneous trade could lead to:
lakers send LO + 2nd rounder to dallas for TPE (which can absorb 12.25M) + 1st rounder
lakers send bynum + TPE (up to $12.25M) + 2 first rounders to orlando
orlando sends dwight howard and hedo to the lakers
lakers amnesty hedo
in effect, the lakers would be allowing orlando to get andrew bynum, $34 in cap relief by getting rid of hedo (PLUS the 9 million (LO's $8.9M + $100,00) and 2 first rounders.
not sure if the number is correct, but from this thread, it seems like if it's a 3 team swing then the TPE can expand to 125%.... and from other sources, the odom deal is not done yet, so I think this is what they were thinking about too.
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after doing some math, here is what orlando gains from the deal.
orlando gives up the following 2 years left in dwight's contract, which is $37,145,600.
orlando also throws away hedo's smelly contract, which is $34,200,000
in turn, they take in bynum's $31,630,669 over 2 years.
they also get fillers, like say 2 first rounders
they also get a TPE (im not sure how this works, do they get a TPE worth hedo's contract at the time of trade or LO's?) of either $8.9 million or $10.6 million.
that means they save AT LEAST $37 million (depends on whether they would have been over the cap), get andrew bynum, a TPE worth $8.9 million or $10.6M, and receive fillers (like 2 first rounders).
they would pretty much have a clean slate to start rebuilding with andrew bynum as their centerpiece. after gilbert's amnesty, that would put them at $42,219,582.00, which is well below the cap.
i may be a bias laker fan, but i do think this is a viable deal for the magic (well, decent in that dwight is demanding a trade, so he MUST be traded after all).
orlando gives up the following 2 years left in dwight's contract, which is $37,145,600.
orlando also throws away hedo's smelly contract, which is $34,200,000
in turn, they take in bynum's $31,630,669 over 2 years.
they also get fillers, like say 2 first rounders
they also get a TPE (im not sure how this works, do they get a TPE worth hedo's contract at the time of trade or LO's?) of either $8.9 million or $10.6 million.
that means they save AT LEAST $37 million (depends on whether they would have been over the cap), get andrew bynum, a TPE worth $8.9 million or $10.6M, and receive fillers (like 2 first rounders).
they would pretty much have a clean slate to start rebuilding with andrew bynum as their centerpiece. after gilbert's amnesty, that would put them at $42,219,582.00, which is well below the cap.
i may be a bias laker fan, but i do think this is a viable deal for the magic (well, decent in that dwight is demanding a trade, so he MUST be traded after all).
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The odom deal is not complete yet so this is what Mitch must be thinking. Both the lakers and mavs gain from Howard being traded to the lakers. Cuban wants Deron to sign with the nets during the summer and the only way that happens is if Howard does not get traded to the nets, since that will ensure that both players will sign extensions...
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Orlando could hold onto Howard for awhile so I don't see them trading him yet.
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