LBJ "Best defensive player in the world" says Pacers coach

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LBJ "Best defensive player in the world" says Pacers coach 

Post#1 » by litex » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:37 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamih ... bron-james

And he did it at both ends, smothering Pacers small forward Danny Granger and contributing to a horrid 2-of-13 shooting night for the small forward.

“LeBron James, the best defensive player in the world, was on him,” Pacers coach Frank Vogel said to explain Granger’s bad night.


Is this true? I mean, I think he's the best defensive wing:

He provides a unique combination of amazing help d, man d, transition d (arguably one of the best transition defenders of all time) and being able to effectively guard nearly anybody he's switched onto in pick and rolls.

He's been the best defensive player on every team he's been on for years now, and most of those teams were great defensively. Right now, even with Wade hobbled by injury, the Heat's defense is insane and James is clearly a huge factor in that--he's probably the only guy right now who can shut down the other team's best wing while also causing havoc with everything else the offense is trying to do.

But can anyone really argue he's a better defensive player than Dwight Howard? Whatever Dwight's weaknesses on offense, he is the definition of an anchor big man. Can any wing, even a freak like Lebron, ever really have a bigger defensive impact than someone like Dwight?
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Post#2 » by Jay10 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:39 pm

guess he takes the games off against carmelo. :lol:
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Post#3 » by WestSideChamp » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:40 pm

:lol:
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Post#4 » by HereWeGoo » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:41 pm

Lol? JET had a field day with him in the Finals
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Post#5 » by Don Draper » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:41 pm

Jay10 wrote:guess he takes the games off against carmelo. :lol:


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Post#6 » by 624 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:42 pm

I'm not saying he's a better defensive player than Howard, but it's possible to be a better player without having as big of an impact.


For example, Darrelle Revis could be the best football player in the world, but doesn't have the impact guys like Rodgers/Brees have.
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Post#7 » by KembaWalker » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:42 pm

Crazy thing is hes such a beast on defense but also never fouls. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post#8 » by Jay10 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:45 pm

Don Draper wrote:
Jay10 wrote:guess he takes the games off against carmelo. :lol:


http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =anthoca01


9-4. 8-)
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Post#9 » by WestSideChamp » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:46 pm

This is kind of like saying from one coach, that Lebron is a better passer than Magic Johnson :lol:
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Post#10 » by Heaven101 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:48 pm

Sooner or later. Another coach will go on saying that he is better than MJ on both ends.
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Post#11 » by Fast Dont Fib » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:50 pm

In all fairness, everyone who's guarded Granger so far this season has come out looking like the best defender in the world. Other than that, people are aware Lebron is really good at defense at this point.
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Post#12 » by Jay10 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:50 pm

Heaven101 wrote:Sooner or later. Another coach will go on saying that he is better than MJ on both ends.


it's only a matter of time before one of the espn analyst make the statement.
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Post#13 » by doctorfunk » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:51 pm

litex wrote:But can anyone really argue he's a better defensive player than Dwight Howard? Whatever Dwight's weaknesses on offense, he is the definition of an anchor big man. Can any wing, even a freak like Lebron, ever really have a bigger defensive impact than someone like Dwight?


no

he is a great defender
but i think there is bunch of wing defenders as good or better than LeBron
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Post#14 » by Don Draper » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:52 pm

Jay10 wrote:
Don Draper wrote:
Jay10 wrote:guess he takes the games off against carmelo. :lol:


http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =anthoca01


9-4. 8-)


Has nothing to do with your insinuation that Melo outplays him.
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Post#15 » by Gramatika5O » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:52 pm

Vogel likes to sensationalize things in such a way that he can spin to the players. The underdog role is always a good spot to be in and he likes to pander to the media (like any other coach would) regarding star players he will/is/has face/ing/ed.
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Post#16 » by HereWeGoo » Thu Jan 5, 2012 6:54 pm

Lebron can't play 1 on 1 defense like this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ver7OaentQk[/youtube]
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Post#17 » by Vides990 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 7:02 pm

Vogel telling it how it is.
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Post#18 » by Typhoon20 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 7:03 pm

If you're a coach and you play against the likes of Kobe, LBJ etc. you go out and give them the biggest compliments you can give even if it's not true. Just ask Jeff Van Gundy or that Elmer Fudd coach of the Nuggets.
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Post#19 » by samueldestroyer » Thu Jan 5, 2012 7:03 pm

not a good defender. when it comes down to defending a last shot in the end, lebron chokes. He cannot handle the pressure. next thread
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Post#20 » by dafunky1 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 7:06 pm

Loul Deng could compare with LBJ.His defense has been on a elite level.

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