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Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:08 pm
by Guy986
Cruel_Ruin wrote:Larry Brown to the Kings!

Oh yes. God yes. That would be a freak show. Cameras need to follow Brown and Cousin everywhere.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:10 pm
by kerplunk
Sac needs Jerry Sloan!

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:10 pm
by boogie-reke
Guy986 wrote:
Cruel_Ruin wrote:Larry Brown to the Kings!

Oh yes. God yes. That would be a freak show. Cameras need to follow Brown and Cousin everywhere.

:lol:

He managed Sheed and AI tho.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:11 pm
by KF10
Too bad the Kings burned bridges with Adelman. He would have been an awesome pickup. Closest Adelman-clone? Eddie Jordan?

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:15 pm
by boogie-reke
Rick would be perfect, I agree.. esp with our current group and Demarcus.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:15 pm
by 83SixersRocked
God no. Eddie Jordan will make Westphal look like a genius.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:20 pm
by Sn0wman
no surprise here, saw this coming

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:21 pm
by Mk0
Players league man.. Westphal is a terrible coach but you never buckle like this to a guy like Cousins. Now he will think that he can whine all day and get his way.

What's next they trade Chuck Hayes?

(Hayes said it may take Cousins a few years to mature and understand how to be a player)

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:32 pm
by ikidunot
Mike Brown said it best: You can only coach if the star player allows you to coach him.

Cousins wouldn't allow Westphal to coach him, so one of them had to go. Westphal in last year of contract so it was him. This isn't like the NFL, The NBA is a player's league.

One coach who I think can get to Cousins is Larry Brown. Him and Iverson hated each other in the beginning, than they both stop being stubborn and Iverson allowed Larry Brown to coach him and Iverson said Coach Brown was the biggest positive influence in his life.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:44 pm
by ManualRam
ikidunot wrote:Mike Brown said it best: You can only coach if the star player allows you to coach him.

Cousins wouldn't allow Westphal to coach him, so one of them had to go. Westphal in last year of contract so it was him. This isn't like the NFL, The NBA is a player's league.

One coach who I think can get to Cousins is Larry Brown. Him and Iverson hated each other in the beginning, than they both stop being stubborn and Iverson allowed Larry Brown to coach him and Iverson said Coach Brown was the biggest positive influence in his life.


for the last time, his firing wasnt a westphal vs cousins thing. westphal lost the WHOLE TEAM. no young players improved under him and the system was horrible.

do you remember larry brown's knicks? i think the kings would be similar under him. he's good at coaching finished/near finished products. they need a coach who can develop players within a team setting.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 9:53 pm
by mattg
Kings should honestly just hire calipari.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:07 pm
by Joel Embust
Rhettmatic wrote:
sam_amick Sam Amick
The Kings have fired Paul Westphal, per team release. Asst. Keith Smart will coach team tonight.


https://twitter.com/#!/sam_amick/status ... 7962862592




DeMarcus Cousins WINS.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:24 pm
by 83SixersRocked
boogie-reke wrote:
Guy986 wrote:
Cruel_Ruin wrote:Larry Brown to the Kings!

Oh yes. God yes. That would be a freak show. Cameras need to follow Brown and Cousin everywhere.

:lol:

He managed Sheed and AI tho.


He did. But Pat Croce had to call AI and LB into his office and manage them both at the same time.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:30 pm
by The Rebel
I am interested to see what happens with the development of the young players on the Kings team now, they may be the most talented group of young players in the league, but westphal has been a horrible coach for them.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:30 pm
by tsherkin
mattg wrote:Kings should honestly just hire calipari.


Why would he EVER leave his post for the NBA? He's made that mistake already... Remember him on another crappy team, the 97 Nets?

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:36 pm
by rpa
tsherkin wrote:
mattg wrote:Kings should honestly just hire calipari.


Why would he EVER leave his post for the NBA? He's made that mistake already... Remember him on another crappy team, the 97 Nets?


Well, in theory it would be for the same reasons that Pete Caroll left one of the biggest college football jobs in the country; some combination of:
- Money (which the cheap mofos in Sac wouldn't offer)
- Recruiting violations
- The pro game is still the pinnacle of coaching

That 2nd one would have to be there to spur him, though; no way he leaves just for money and prestige.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:40 pm
by Nolan
Putting the whole Cousins situation aside Westphal needed to go he was just doing an awful job in Sacramento.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:44 pm
by EddieJonesFan
This pretty much seals Cousins' fate as an egomaniac.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:44 pm
by Iman Shumpert
Raise the age minimum to 22.

Re: First coaching casualty: Kings fire Paul Westphal

Posted: Thu Jan 5, 2012 10:50 pm
by Ettorefm
Aren't there any brilliant college coaches in the ENTIRE NATION that can be a NBA coach?
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This knucklehead GMs keep getting proven crappy coaches or just go the "Duh, I'll randomly pick a former NBA player and put him in here"
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It's like they are too lazy to do their goddamn job. There are thousands of schools in the US, and in the world. There isn't a single coach in Europe, USA or anywhere else that can be at least GOOD?
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The Westphal's and the Saunders's thank you, GM's.
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Ettore Messina just went to be the assistant coach of the Lakers, and he is a genious and a legend in Europe. Why not try him instead of getting a McHale, a Ewing or a Cassell to be coach just cause they once played in the league?
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Jeff Van Gundy is unemployed. Try him.
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Calipari, Coach K., Tom Izzo, Calhoun..
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Also, there are many assistant coaches that deserve a coach position; Look at Casey, Spoelstra and Thibodeau. All they need is someone to back them up.