Pacers clinch a playoff spot

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Re: Pacers clinch a playoff spot 

Post#41 » by Josephpaul » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:20 am

Lakers also clinched a spot, the pacer attendance is pitiful
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Re: Pacers clinch a playoff spot 

Post#42 » by BadMojo » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:49 am

sonicFLAME6 wrote:Congrats to the Pacers but I also agree they are doing squat in the playoffs. Vs 500 and lower teams 23-4 and Vs 500 and higher teams 14-18. Unless they are playing a team under 500 in the first round I expect them sadly to not get past the 1st round.


I'm not even a Pacers fan so it doesn't bother me at all but is the official NBA site wrong?

http://www.nba.com/standings/team_recor ... g_Cnf.html

That says that they are 16-14 against .500+ teams. The only other teams in the east to have a winning record against winning teams is Chicago and Miami. NY, Philly and Atlanta have bad records and Boston and Orlando are both 3 games under .500 against winning teams. Indiana is doing a lot better than most of the east is doing against the better teams.

Edit: But you all have the schedule and the records for each games. Maybe that .500+ isn't what I thought? I don't usually worry much about that so I could be way off. Or maybe the official site is what their records were at the time they played and the rest of you are doing the records they have now? I'm a little confused.
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Re: Pacers clinch a playoff spot 

Post#43 » by Nuntius » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:59 am

BadMojo wrote:Or maybe the official site is what their records were at the time they played and the rest of you are doing the records they have now? I'm a little confused.


This could be the case.
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Post#44 » by Sky_Knicks » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:01 am

CircleCitysportsfan wrote:
Sky_Knicks wrote:They're doing absolutely nothing in the playoffs. And they'd better hope and prey that the Knicks don't catch the Magic for the 6th seed.



:lol: Barely hanging on to the 8th seed and Knick fan is back talking ****. Just like old times....

Same tired rhetoric lol. 13-4 under Woodson. You can hate them all you want, but the Knicks are a playoff threat witht he way they've been playing. The Pacers, once again, are pretenders. I doubt there's a team in the league that is afraid of playing them in the playoffs. They're.....not impressive.
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Re: Pacers clinch a playoff spot 

Post#45 » by Bertrob » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:03 am

Oh boy Knicks fans up to their shenanigans again
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Post#46 » by Sky_Knicks » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:03 am

daschysta wrote:
Sky_Knicks wrote:They're doing absolutely nothing in the playoffs. And they'd better hope and prey that the Knicks don't catch the Magic for the 6th seed.


How about you guys worry about clinging onto even getting into the playoffs before you worry about beating better teams than the Knicks. Knicks aren't getting out of the first round whether it's Indy, Chicago, Atlanta or Miami.

Then again Knicks fans should be well acquainted with losing in the first round despite Carmelo pouring in huge numbers.

Riiighhhtt because the Knicks have to be very worried about making the playoffs with they've been playing and how great the Sixers have been :lol: If we play the Pacers, we'll win in 5. Stop kidding yourself. Pacers need to be praying that the Knicks don't get the 6h seed.
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Re: Pacers clinch a playoff spot 

Post#47 » by Nuntius » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:04 am

Sky_Knicks wrote:
CircleCitysportsfan wrote:
Sky_Knicks wrote:They're doing absolutely nothing in the playoffs. And they'd better hope and prey that the Knicks don't catch the Magic for the 6th seed.



:lol: Barely hanging on to the 8th seed and Knick fan is back talking ****. Just like old times....

Same tired rhetoric lol. 13-4 under Woodson. You can hate them all you want, but the Knicks are a playoff threat witht he way they've been playing. The Pacers, once again, are pretenders. I doubt there's a team in the league that is afraid of playing them in the playoffs. They're.....not impressive.


The Pacers had an excellent record under Vogel last year as well and got in the playoffs the same way that the Knicks did this year.

The Knicks are a playoff threat but 7 out of 8 teams in the East are threats. The Sixers are the only team that I cannot consider a threat at the moment.

The Pacers are not pretenders.

Edit: And they're prove it in the playoffs :D
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Post#48 » by Nuntius » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:06 am

Sky_Knicks wrote:If we play the Pacers, we'll win in 5.


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Post#49 » by -[Clippers]- » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:07 am

Nuntius wrote:The Pacers had an excellent record under Vogel last year as well

37-45 is an excellent record now? Especially in the East?
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Post#50 » by bullsnewdynasty » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:10 am

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Nuntius wrote:The Pacers had an excellent record under Vogel last year as well

37-45 is an excellent record now? Especially in the East?


They played better than an 8th seed. People were laughing at the Bulls because the Pacers kept the playoffs series close, but they have shown they were better than an 8th seed this year. Now they're the 3rd seed with largely the same team plus a few additions.
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Post#51 » by Palmeirense » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:12 am

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Nuntius wrote:The Pacers had an excellent record under Vogel last year as well

37-45 is an excellent record now? Especially in the East?


Vogel was not the coach during the whole season, Jim O'brien was the coach for at least half the season.


Vogel's record was good.

And my god, some knicks fans are DELUSIONAL.

Talking crap about the pacers when their team has done absolutely nothing to feel like they are a playoff threat. Hey, at least the pacers won a game last year in the playoffs, buddy, are are 37-22, which is a pretty good record.
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Post#52 » by Nuntius » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:13 am

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Nuntius wrote:The Pacers had an excellent record under Vogel last year as well

37-45 is an excellent record now? Especially in the East?


JOB was coaching for half of last year. JOB was 17 - 27. Vogel was 20 - 18 with the same team. That's a definite improvement and he was the sole reason that the Pacers made the playoffs last year.
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Post#53 » by Palmeirense » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:14 am

Just checked Vogel's record last year, pretty respectable 20-18, considering the team had a 17-27 record prior to his insertion as a head coach.
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Post#54 » by Nuntius » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:21 am

Palmeirense wrote:Just checked Vogel's record last year, pretty respectable 20-18, considering the team had a 17-27 record prior to his insertion as a head coach.


Well, I thought he had a better record so it's quite fair to say that it was "excellent" as I thought. Respectable is the right word, indeed.
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Post#55 » by iLL GM » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:57 am

With their win against Milwaukee tonight, the Pacers are now 8-1 in the month of April -- the best record in the NBA.
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Post#56 » by kodo » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:10 am

What's particularly impressive about the Pacers organization is that they created a #3 seed team without the benefit of any lucky breaks in the lottery or a market to lure big name free agents.

Granger: 17th pick
Hibbert: 17th pick
George: 10th pick
Collison: 21st pick
Hansbrough: 13th pick
Hill: 26th pick
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Post#57 » by -[Clippers]- » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:17 am

Palmeirense wrote:Vogel was not the coach during the whole season, Jim O'brien was the coach for at least half the season.

I forgot about that, my bad.
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Post#58 » by Nuntius » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:33 am

kodo wrote:What's particularly impressive about the Pacers organization is that they created a #3 seed team without the benefit of any lucky breaks in the lottery or a market to lure big name free agents.

Granger: 17th pick
Hibbert: 17th pick
George: 10th pick
Collison: 21st pick
Hansbrough: 13th pick
Hill: 26th pick


Actually, the last time we had a draft pick in the single digits was 23 years ago.

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Palmeirense wrote:Vogel was not the coach during the whole season, Jim O'brien was the coach for at least half the season.

I forgot about that, my bad.


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Post#59 » by KidLyfe » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:02 am

Ha!

Pacers would get obliterated by the Knicks in a 7 game series. They got blown out in back to back games by the Knicks and were getting blown out by 15 in the last one until we got lazy and they took advantage.

I'd say Knicks in 5 and that's me being generous.
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Post#60 » by Pacersike » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:04 am

Nuntius wrote:On the other hand, the Pacers have struggled versus the above .500 but below .600 teams for some reason.

vs Boston: 2 - 2 KG-Rondo
vs Atlanta: 1 - 2 ?
vs Orlando: 1 - 3 Dwight
vs New York: 1 - 2 Chandler-Lin
vs Philadelphia: 1 - 1 (2 games remaining to be played)
vs Memphis: 0 - 1 Gasol
vs Dallas: 1 - 0
vs Houston: 1 - 0
vs Denver: 0 - 1 Nene
vs Phoenix: 0 - 1 Gortat-Nash
vs Utah: 1 - 0


Roy Hibbert is a big reason why the Pacers will have the 3th best record in the East, but IMO he is also a big reason why we struggle in certain matchups. Add a point guard who can pass the ball and I think the Pacers will have a really hard time to beat such a team in the playoffs this year.

Not saying there aren't any other reasons, but the Collison/Hibbert tandem defending the pick and roll is one of them. If you want to compete without a superstar, you need to have a top 3 defense for starters.

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