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Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon Roy

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:01 am
by Revived
From Greg Oden’s Report of Findings September 24, 2008:

Based upon the analysis, our recommendation is the following:

• Increase Overall Hamstring Strength
• Increase R hamstring and Glute Strength
• Improve R leg explosiveness
• Increase L Gastroc, Soleus, Glute, Hamstring and Quad Flexibility
•Consider a more efficient shoe designed to lift the entire foot to improve normal leg stride.

In Greg’s case, every exercise or target area needing improvement on his list required slow, yet focused repetitions. If Greg was asked to walk, run, squat or jump, he placed more of the load on his left leg than his weaker right leg. I informed the medical staff that this overload would put Greg at risk for a major acute injury to his left leg. Greg’s imbalance was so distinct that I even advised that staff that if he didn’t improve the weaknesses in the short-term and continue some of the rehab-like exercises for the entire season, his career could be at risk.

And you can believe it or not, but the medical staff laughed off my recommendations. In fact, we spent nearly two hours at dinner with the medical staff questioning my results and looking for reasons to discredit the results rather than search for solutions to keep the team’s multimillion dollar athlete on the court. At one point, one member of the medical staff informed me that Greg suffered from a true anatomical leg length shortness on the right side. As a result of that diagnosis, Greg had been prescribed, by physicians, to wear a heel lift in his right shoe. Well doc, I hate to be the one to tell you again, but the heel lift actually increases the load and the amount of anterior/posterior shear (forward/backward sliding) on Greg’s right knee, contributing to his need to undergo several micro-fracture surgeries.

The results of Greg’s biomechanics assessments created doubt in my mind about the leg length claims. However, I suggested an alternative to a heel lift if they truly believed that a shorter right leg was a contributing factor to his knee injuries. The solution, for an athlete with Greg’s height and leg length, an entire shoe lift (orthopedic shoe on the right side) would reduce the sheer forces in the joint and keep Greg healthy while he continued the rehab.

You can imagine the laughter that filled the restaurant from the table. “No one wears a shoe lift,” one staffer replied. “That’s crazy. Where would we get one?” To which I replied, “Hey Nike is Greg’s shoe sponsor and they are right down the street. I’m sure they could customize a shoe lift for one of their star athletes if it keeps him healthy.” To my knowledge, no shoe lift was ordered for Greg.


http://zigsports.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/greg-oden-brandon-roy-what-what-happened/

^^Says more about that and what happened with Brandon Roy.

Sad to think what could have been if the arrogant Blazers med staff were actually open minded....we may be talking about Portland and Miami in the Finals right now instead of OKC.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:06 am
by Jugs
this is like the 50th time this has been posted

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:12 am
by MigrainePatrol
Jugs wrote:this is like the 50th time this has been posted


Not in this kind of detail. All I heard was that his right leg was significantly shorter than the left which caused the imbalance.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:17 am
by D.Brasco
I wonder if greg ever seriously considered undergoing a leg lengthening procedure to correct the imbalance. It's pretty brutal they actually shatter your leg bones and install screws and and slow cranking system to slowly have your leg bone grow back longer.

I think it puts you out of commission for near a year but if millions of dollars are on the line i wonder if he wouldn't consider it?





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Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:21 am
by BlueDawn
Oh ah my ah God.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:39 am
by mojomarc
MigrainePatrol wrote:
Jugs wrote:this is like the 50th time this has been posted


Not in this kind of detail. All I heard was that his right leg was significantly shorter than the left which caused the imbalance.


No--it's always the same link, and it's always the same source that is currently under indictment for more credibility-destroying things than you can shake a stick at. Not to mention Tom Penn, who is central to Zig's case, has stated that Zig's claims aren't credible even after the Blazers fired Penn.

Hopefully the mods lock this sucker. It's so over.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:47 pm
by tiderulz
this i believe is HIPAA violation too. He cant talk medically about anyone that he treated unless given permission, and even then they dont want to for legal reason.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:40 pm
by Kironte
MigrainePatrol wrote:
Jugs wrote:this is like the 50th time this has been posted


Not in this kind of detail. All I heard was that his right leg was significantly shorter than the left which caused the imbalance.

5 days ago
Incompetent Blazers medical staff ruining careers
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1186939

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:24 pm
by Wizenheimer
Kironte wrote:
MigrainePatrol wrote:
Jugs wrote:this is like the 50th time this has been posted


Not in this kind of detail. All I heard was that his right leg was significantly shorter than the left which caused the imbalance.

5 days ago
Incompetent Blazers medical staff ruining careers
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1186939


thx

damn, people sure like to recycle stuff around here

in that spirit, I'll recycle my post from that previous thread:

this is a giant load of crap

anybody armed with some logic and a familiarity with the Blazer injury situation would recognize the embellishment and the self-serving motivations of the author...

and speaking of that author:

you should look up Zig Ziegler on the web. If you did you'd find out about his legal troubles. In January, he was arrested in Arizona:

Charges:

CONSPIRACY
THEFT
ASSIST CRIM SYND/LEAD GANG
FRAUDULENT SCHEMES/ARTIFICES
MONEY LAUNDERING
ILLEGAL CONTROL OF ENTERPRISE
SALE-UNREGISTERED SECURITIES
SALE SECURITIES-UNREGIST AGNT
FRAUD-PURCHASE/SELL SECURITIES


http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/az-mcso/2012-01-11/larry-wayne-ziegler-p834055

but that's not all. In 2010, he was hit with securities charges in Arkansas:

http://www.securities.arkansas.gov/!userfiles/60CV-10-933.pdf

and for good measure, also in 2010, the State of Arizona ordered him to pay $650K in restitution and administrative penalties for securities fraud:

http://www.azinvestor.gov/News/2010/apr13-10.pdf

this does not appear to be a guy to take at his word, and as I said, it extremely easy to poke holes in the article if you know just a little bit about the actual history

but by all means, everybody just keep swallowing the guy's BS and condemning the Blazers.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:30 pm
by ndnow
I don't know why some athlete's don't get second opinions. I don't care how good your doctor is, a second pair of eye's can never hurt.

If Sydney Crosby never got a second opinion he' would still wouldn't be back playing.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:02 pm
by dice
being able to retire in your 20s is not tragic

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:06 pm
by ReturnofMVP3
ndnow wrote:I don't know why some athlete's don't get second opinions. I don't care how good your doctor is, a second pair of eye's can never hurt.

If Sydney Crosby never got a second opinion he' would still wouldn't be back playing.


Not sure how true this is but can they only see team doctors? I swear during the lockout players were talking about seeing other doctors but having to give them up once the lockout ended.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:13 pm
by cpfsf
dice wrote:being able to retire in your 20s is not tragic

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/story/2012-04-22/Pro-athletes-and-financial-trouble/54465664/1

NBA athletes aren't exactly known for being frugal.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:14 pm
by ReturnofMVP3
dice wrote:being able to retire in your 20s is not tragic



Losing your dreams is.

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:22 pm
by dice
ReturnofMVP3 wrote:
dice wrote:being able to retire in your 20s is not tragic



Losing your dreams is.

gimme the money, squash my dreams and we'll call it even. i won't pout

Re: Tragic story of what happened to Greg Oden and Brandon R

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:24 pm
by dice
cpfsf wrote:
dice wrote:being able to retire in your 20s is not tragic

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/story/2012-04-22/Pro-athletes-and-financial-trouble/54465664/1

NBA athletes aren't exactly known for being frugal.

being able to retire and actually following through by sticking to a budget are two different things, of course