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Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:16 pm
by reignfire
Golabki wrote:Beard wrote:He's solidified himself now as a top ten PG in the league, IMO.
As for the future, like you said he is still young, so I can see him making several all star games over the course of his career. The future looks bright for this young pup.
Not sure about top ten
I'd rather have...
Paul
Rose
Westbrook extremely low BBIQ
Parker
Williams
Nash old, no defense
Conley no offense, no playmaking ability
Curry no defense, injury prone, no playmaking
Rondo
Lawson small, liabilty other than scoring
Irving
Rubio no offense
I think right not Holiday is a solid starter on par with Hill, Jennings, Teague, Collison (Lin and Wall are wild cards)... obviously he's younger that a lot of these guys.
I think Holiday WILL be a solid top 10 PG, but right now he's more in the 10-20 range.
I take Holiday over the bolded. Holiday is decent at everything. A bunch of PGs you listed have a bunch of glaring flaws that is easily exploited.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:41 pm
by Darain
Rubio has no offense?
Holiday is better than Westbrook seriously?
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:43 pm
by Tron Carter
Yeah, I'm not taking Holiday over Westbrook.
I put him in the same class as Rubio and Lawson.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:48 pm
by DanTown8587
While they're not the same body type, I'm saying Mike Bibby in terms of style of play. And I think it's a struggle for Holiday to make the ASG considering the quality at the position. He's clearly outside the top 4 in his own conference (Rose, Irving, Rondo, Williams).
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:29 pm
by HurricaneKid
Have you seen what Brandon Jennings did to him last night? 33 pts, 8 asst, 5 reb, 4 stl, 2 bl on 57%. IN JRUE's HOUSE. Sorry, I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing. Last year at least he was a terrible shooter but a good defender. Now he just wants to get his.
Better than Westbrook? GTFO. NOW.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:38 pm
by SoulInTheHole7
Holiday is overrated as all Hell.
Lillard has far more upside.
Holiday better than Westbrook? LMFAOOOOOO!
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:55 pm
by YouthMovement
Holiday over Deron is laughable
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:04 pm
by rafale
Sorry but he is not even a top 10 PG at the moment, he is a good defender, but he isn't some gary payton shutdown defender, and offensively, he is averaging 18 pts at 54% ts with 8,8 asts and 5 TOs ...
That's above average production, but that's certainly not all-star production.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:06 pm
by Durant Durant
Darain wrote:Rubio has no offense?
Holiday is better than Westbrook seriously?
Rubio and Holiday are both overrated
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:10 pm
by SoulInTheHole7
YouthMovement wrote:Holiday over Deron is laughable
That's like saying Batum is better than Melo.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:29 pm
by cksdayoff
HurricaneKid wrote:Have you seen what Brandon Jennings did to him last night? 33 pts, 8 asst, 5 reb, 4 stl, 2 bl on 57%. IN JRUE's HOUSE. Sorry, I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing. Last year at least he was a terrible shooter but a good defender. Now he just wants to get his.
Better than Westbrook? GTFO. NOW.
in Jrue's defense, Brand Jennings would have dropped 30+ points on ANYONE when he's on like that.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:38 pm
by Drehova
he's in the 10-15 range. That's not a slight the league is just full of quality pg's right now. At 22 so much room to grow. I seem him as a better version of Billups when he hits his prime
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:51 pm
by Curmudgeon
The issue isn't where he ranks now, but what he could become. He's as quick or maybe even quicker than any guard in the league. He's not there yet, but the potential is there.
Barring injury, he and Turner could be the best backcourt in the NBA two years from now.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:03 pm
by ManualRam
Curmudgeon wrote:Barring injury, he and Turner could be the best backcourt in the NBA two years from now.
eh. it'd have to be with some player other than turner. technically, right now turner's not even in the backcourt.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:05 am
by Hardcore6erFan
WOW Holiday just played some Gary Payton type defense on Irving. Crowd acting like they just saw a sick dunk or something.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:07 am
by Beard
I'm a Sixers fans and to me it looked like the crowd was hyped because they were going at it. It was pretty good defense, sure, but Irving's lack of control was what caused the miss. He was able to penetrate somewhat.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:13 am
by Hardcore6erFan
Holds Kyrie Irving to 9 points and 4 assists. Smh at people saying not top 10.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:22 am
by Beard
It was a good defensive performance by Holiday tonight. He just needs to take better care of the ball and I'll consider him top ten.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:33 am
by Lefraud James
Best defensive PG!
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:36 am
by Woodsanity
Impressive. Holiday completely shut down Irving.