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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:12 am
by NjNeTs1029
I'd rather get a good starting PF

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:13 am
by LarsV8
nickforthreee wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:Is this some kind of sick joke? Rudy Gay is absolutely terrible. At least Gerald Wallace is a good defender. :lol:


yup hes terrible youre right. you are another one of those advanced stats guys who think chandler parsons is better than rudy gay.


I almost feel sorry for you.

How low does his true shooting have to get before you will open your eyes.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:13 am
by nickforthreee
Darain wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:Is this some kind of sick joke? Rudy Gay is absolutely terrible. At least Gerald Wallace is a good defender. :lol:


yup hes terrible youre right. you are another one of those advanced stats guys who think chandler parsons is better than rudy gay.


Why Does Rudy gay do better than Chandler Parsons, seriosuly


can score at will, put the team on his back, come up big in clutch moments, completely take over a game. parsons is a role player. a good one yes, but a role player.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:15 am
by nickforthreee
LarsV8 wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:
Woodsanity wrote:Is this some kind of sick joke? Rudy Gay is absolutely terrible. At least Gerald Wallace is a good defender. :lol:


yup hes terrible youre right. you are another one of those advanced stats guys who think chandler parsons is better than rudy gay.


I almost feel sorry for you.

How low does his true shooting have to get before you will open your eyes.


i can tell that you are one of the people who see certain stats go up when kobe is off the floor so you suggest the lakers are better off without kobe. stats arent everything my dude. if you have an argument with people in real life and try to say parsons is better than rudy you will get laughed at.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:18 am
by Darain
nickforthreee wrote:
Darain wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:
yup hes terrible youre right. you are another one of those advanced stats guys who think chandler parsons is better than rudy gay.


Why Does Rudy gay do better than Chandler Parsons, seriosuly


can score at will, put the team on his back, come up big in clutch moments, completely take over a game. parsons is a role player. a good one yes, but a role player.


How about the other games where he shoots his team out of games by not passing it to Randolph?

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:22 am
by nickforthreee
Darain wrote:How about the other games where he shoots his team out of games by not passing it to Randolph?


im not a grizz fan and really dont watch them much but ive never seen rudy gay as a ballhog. he has a bad shot selection sometimes but to say that he is a terrible player and that roleplayers are better than him is laughable.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:24 am
by DusterBuster
nickforthreee wrote:can score at will, put the team on his back, come up big in clutch moments, completely take over a game. parsons is a role player. a good one yes, but a role player.


Besides that one Toronto game, what other "clutch moments" has Rudy ever had?

I saw him during a tight game with the Blazers last week and he completely disappeared when the game was close late. He also never "took the game over".

I don't know what player you're watching, but he's not the Rudy Gay I've ever seen.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:34 am
by nickforthreee
DusterBuster wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:can score at will, put the team on his back, come up big in clutch moments, completely take over a game. parsons is a role player. a good one yes, but a role player.


Besides that one Toronto game, what other "clutch moments" has Rudy ever had?

I saw him during a tight game with the Blazers last week and he completely disappeared when the game was close late. He also never "took the game over".

I don't know what player you're watching, but he's not the Rudy Gay I've ever seen.



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKr-SZ3-AAE[/youtube]

:roll:

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:35 am
by LarsV8
nickforthreee wrote:i can tell that you are one of the people who see certain stats go up when kobe is off the floor so you suggest the lakers are better off without kobe. stats arent everything my dude. if you have an argument with people in real life and try to say parsons is better than rudy you will get laughed at.


Nope, Kobe Bryant is an excellent player, top 10-15 all time.

You are trying pass off the "Rudy Gay is a good player" statement as if it is just understood and beyond any need for explanation. Your " completely take over games" and "come up big in clutch moments" is not evidence, its eye test, which is unreliable and comepletely biased.

For every game he has taken over, he completely chucked the Grizzlies out of others. There is no doubt if Rudy takes shots at the end game in every close game, he is going to make a few of them. Parsons has taken over games too. Although, Harden is usually our clutch guy, so no real measurements for Parsons.

I have watched Gay play, formed my opinions, which were subsequently confirmed by stats. I am very comfortable in arguing my position in person or over the internet, because frankly, its and accurate position.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:37 am
by LarsV8
nickforthreee wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKr-SZ3-AAE[/youtube]

:roll:


Now post the boxscores for those games and lets see if his poor shooting is what made them close in the first place.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:38 am
by nickforthreee
and this one:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poyS9OMAlaE[/youtube]

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:40 am
by nickforthreee
LarsV8 wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:i can tell that you are one of the people who see certain stats go up when kobe is off the floor so you suggest the lakers are better off without kobe. stats arent everything my dude. if you have an argument with people in real life and try to say parsons is better than rudy you will get laughed at.


Nope, Kobe Bryant is an excellent player, top 10-15 all time.

You are trying pass off the "Rudy Gay is a good player" statement as if it is just understood and beyond any need for explanation. Your " completely take over games" and "come up big in clutch moments" is not evidence, its eye test, which is unreliable and comepletely biased.

For every game he has taken over, he completely chucked the Grizzlies out of others. There is no doubt if Rudy takes shots at the end game in every close game, he is going to make a few of them. Parsons has taken over games too. Although, Harden is usually our clutch guy, so no real measurements for Parsons.

I have watched Gay play, formed my opinions, which were subsequently confirmed by stats. I am very comfortable in arguing my position in person or over the internet, because frankly, its and accurate position.


we will just have to agree to disagree then because no matter what stats or boxscores you tell me about, you cannot convince me that chandler parsons is the same caliber of player as rudy gay.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:49 am
by jefe
DusterBuster wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:can score at will, put the team on his back, come up big in clutch moments, completely take over a game. parsons is a role player. a good one yes, but a role player.


Besides that one Toronto game, what other "clutch moments" has Rudy ever had?

I saw him during a tight game with the Blazers last week and he completely disappeared when the game was close late. He also never "took the game over".

I don't know what player you're watching, but he's not the Rudy Gay I've ever seen.


He hit a game winner over Lebron at the buzzer last year. Just sayin'

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:03 am
by Woodsanity
can score at will, put the team on his back, come up big in clutch moments, completely take over a game. parsons is a role player. a good one yes, but a role player.

Let me fix this for you.

Can score a lot on extremely low efficiency, can take his teammates out of games, not particularly good at anything.

Overall a slightly above average player that thinks he is a superstar. Tremendously overpaid, I can go on. Nets already have a player just like that and his name is JJ.

Nice comparing a max player to someone paid less than 1m a year(Parsons). :lol:

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:05 am
by TheToothFairy
Wait. I already though Brooklyn were already contenders?

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:34 am
by Mk0
TheToothFairy wrote:Wait. I already though Brooklyn were already contenders?


:lol: :lol:

So.. uh.. Are the Nets are trying to absorb every awful contract in the league. Rudy will make 19mil in 2 years. Why would you do this to yourself?

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:36 am
by Beardman
Might become worse.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:43 am
by Krodis
The thought of the Nets paying THAT starting lineup all that money is HILARIOUS.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:46 am
by Ronito
The Nets are better off with Wallace than Gay. I don't want Rudy Gay.

Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:54 am
by ClayDavis
gerald wallace is one of the few guys in the league who could play the 4, but wouldnt they have to include him in the deal?