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Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:17 pm
by tsherkin
branny wrote:It's probably just lack of superstar centers..


Or that there are so many teams and so many players that a lot of the stuff that was invented earlier and is considered "patented" by a given player has proliferated throughout the league and become mostly common-place. Jordan's signature turnaround fade wasn't a move he invented, it's just one that he made famous and used more prominently than a lot of other guys, but it was in the league long before him. Hell, WILT was using that every now and again, to say nothing of wing guys. Nique and B King, drafted a few years before MJ each, used that move as the foundation of their 80s wing post game, for example. Bird used it, too. And so many more.

A signature move and a go-to move aren't necessarily the same thing. We think of go-to moves when we think of post players (centers, as you indicated, but post-up 4s and wings/guards, too) and there aren't a ton of good post guys in the league. That leaves most guys taking a screen or otherwise dribble-penetrating to start their possession, so unless someone is rocking the UTEP Two-Step, you're not going to see a ton of really individualized moves.

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:19 pm
by Ito
there still go to moves.. they just arent as effective as before.. Defense has improve too much to just let the offense run up the court making the same play every time.. or attempt too.. Like if Dirk does his 1 foot fadeaway and makes the shot.. next time he tries to set him self up to do it again the defense would most likely double or do something to make him pass the ball up... But the mavs championship run was the last time you really saw a player go to his go to move so much and perfectly... some players have serious of go to moves tho... guys like Kobe, Melo.. Pierce, they have tons of offensive moves.. thats what makes them great scorers... Durant ain't in the same league as those players yet.. His jumpshot makes it seem like he is a great scorer with a lot of moves.. he's one dimensional..just got a really sick shot

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:20 pm
by ermocrate
RalphWiggum wrote:
Joker wrote:Antonio Davis -- eye poke victim

As a Raptor fan I'm shocked Davis still has eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!

If he plucks his eyebrows would be harder for the opponents to localize his eyes... :lol:

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:33 pm
by siydee
RalphWiggum wrote:
LeChosen1 wrote:Duncan Bank shot?
Kobe turnaround?
Durant Pull Up?
Dirk One foot fade away?
Carmelo Pull Up?
Lebron Signature Momentum Killing 3(This is probably not a go to move, Just something he does quite often)

Carmelo and Durants are not signature moves, they are just stop and shoot. That's something everyone does just not as well as they do. That's why I said not just somebody hoisting a shot.The Duncan bank is a signature shot and one that I definitely should have included.


you made a thread about go to moves, not signature moves. not every go to move has to be a signature move.

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:51 pm
by ChuckChilly
Shocked to see no one mention D.Wade's pullback drive fake dribble.

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:36 pm
by Kobe Bean
ChuckChilly wrote:Shocked to see no one mention D.Wade's pullback drive fake dribble.


Dwade these days is more known for his famous "Brick jumpshot nosedive flail arms kick out legs " move

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:44 pm
by MMyhre
Kobe Bean wrote:
ChuckChilly wrote:Shocked to see no one mention D.Wade's pullback drive fake dribble.


Dwade these days is more known for his famous "Brick jumpshot nosedive flail arms kick out legs " move

And he still outplayed Kobe Bryant in his own house...

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:52 pm
by jjgp111292
LeBron's go-to move since coming to Miami is that twisting left-handed layup. Back in Cleveland it used to always be the baseline drive ---> reverse layup.

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:55 pm
by izZo
BWSL wrote:Al Jefferson's stupid shotput-style one hand push shot.

Carlos Boozer yelling all the time.

GRAB IT JO! AHH
Nice pass bro!
Get in there!

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:00 pm
by og15
Signature move is not necessarily the same as a go to move. I find it hard to call a teardrop a go to move for a perimeter guy because it can be a move a guy does, but when you are trying to get a bucket, you want to drive or create space for a shot, but you aren't specifically thinking let me go get a tear drop. It isn't a move you can consistently go to because its overly dependent on how the defense is playing.

You can almost always pull off a fadeaway, or step back, or as a big man, a certain post move you like, etc, but a fake pass layup, a euro step, a tear drop are more about the drive first.

Similarly the eurostep, you have to actually drive first. Ginobili for example could have his little one dribble step back jumper considered a go to move, but not the euro step.

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:05 pm
by Kobe Bean
MMyhre wrote:
Kobe Bean wrote:
ChuckChilly wrote:Shocked to see no one mention D.Wade's pullback drive fake dribble.


Dwade these days is more known for his famous "Brick jumpshot nosedive flail arms kick out legs " move

And he still outplayed Kobe Bryant in his own house...


Okay

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:05 pm
by Chosen01
MMyhre wrote:
Kobe Bean wrote:
ChuckChilly wrote:Shocked to see no one mention D.Wade's pullback drive fake dribble.


Dwade these days is more known for his famous "Brick jumpshot nosedive flail arms kick out legs " move

And he still outplayed Kobe Bryant in his own house...

This. Looks like some fans are still salty.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmnBkzTIwts[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws-pHBBjkts[/youtube]

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:09 pm
by Kobe Bean
Chosen01 wrote:



No.1 - It was a joke and an obvious reference to his more and more frequent whining for the past two years
No.2 - That was prime Dwade. He doesn't even two-step that often anymore.

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:37 pm
by Chosen01
Kobe Bean wrote:
Chosen01 wrote:



No.1 - It was a joke and an obvious reference to his more and more frequent whining for the past two years
No.2 - That was prime Dwade. He doesn't even two-step that often anymore.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuYnJtLd7KA[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsPBUor67So[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcga8ebP5cM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYaMTiUnKzk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx5O8kOM_c4[/youtube]

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Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:10 pm
by Zubby
Griffin's spin into dunk/shot

also not in NBA anymore but:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKFLXeJyCJI[/youtube]

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:06 am
by Quinarvy
Rose needs to go back to when his floater was lethal.

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:50 am
by dangermouse
Javale McGee's "try and dunk from the three point line and turn the ball over"

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:32 pm
by waya
Kevin Durant's free throw

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:34 pm
by RajonRondo
jr smiths step back

Re: What has happened to go to moves in the NBA?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:59 pm
by EscapoTHB
Wade- yelling at the refs not getting back on d.

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