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Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:44 am
by TaylorMonkey
Axel wrote:Jeff Hornacek would like to make a case:

So would the best 3pt shooter in the NBA today:

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By what measure?

Curry's the second leading shooter in percentage and volume this season. He's only 4 behind Ryan Anderson and the most accurate of the volume shooter guys. Bonner has a higher percentage but shoots about a fifth of what Curry does.

Korver has a lower percentage on a third less makes. Curry also blows him away on career percentages.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:05 am
by Brovva Blaqq
Frank Mulely wrote:As for Steph's future, either his ankles hold and he's a HOF and at least a top-3 shooter all-time or his ankles don't hold and he'll be a commentator.


I agree.

Strangely enough I don't like or appreciate Curry's game at all... :oops:

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:53 am
by Galis4
nickforthreee wrote:There to me have only been 2 guys that you could consider for greatest shooter ever and those would be Ray Allen and Reggie Miller. They in my opinion are head and shoulders above everybody else when you factor in shooting, coming off screens, moving without the ball, clutch factor etc.... but man Stephen curry i feel like in 15 years he could be in the conversation with those guys as one of the best ever to shoot it. I could watch him shoot it all day, in fact i think he has the nicest looking stroke ever besides jesus shuttlesworth. So what do you guys think? Barring injuries can this guy make it into that conversation? I think he could pass reggie millers makes but depending on how much longer ray ray plays that record might be hard to beat.



In 15 years from now you feel.....? :o :D
Let 5 years pass and then we can have some "data" to talk.

You all seem to forget the incredible Steve. Steve Kerr. OK ok he wasn't a starter and his weapon was mainly the 3s, but we are talking about ability to shoot so his unbelievable 3 years of having more than 50% at the 3 point area with a very very good amount of shots attempted and the overall 45.4%(!!!!), is something that shouldn't go unnoticed. He was the most consistent shooter i have seen, although not with a big repertoire. :D But it doesn't matter, personal ability to create own shoots etc, is irrelevant in this conversation as we are talking about the best shooter.
And Kerr with 5 rings(kinda irrelevant), with clutch championship winning shots and 45.4% at the 3pt line in the end, is a very good case.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:31 pm
by TaylorMonkey
Galis4 wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:There to me have only been 2 guys that you could consider for greatest shooter ever and those would be Ray Allen and Reggie Miller. They in my opinion are head and shoulders above everybody else when you factor in shooting, coming off screens, moving without the ball, clutch factor etc.... but man Stephen curry i feel like in 15 years he could be in the conversation with those guys as one of the best ever to shoot it. I could watch him shoot it all day, in fact i think he has the nicest looking stroke ever besides jesus shuttlesworth. So what do you guys think? Barring injuries can this guy make it into that conversation? I think he could pass reggie millers makes but depending on how much longer ray ray plays that record might be hard to beat.



In 15 years from now you feel.....? :o :D
Let 5 years pass and then we can have some "data" to talk.

You all seem to forget the incredible Steve. Steve Kerr. OK ok he wasn't a starter and his weapon was mainly the 3s, but we are talking about ability to shoot so his unbelievable 3 years of having more than 50% at the 3 point area with a very very good amount of shots attempted and the overall 45.4%(!!!!), is something that shouldn't go unnoticed. He was the most consistent shooter i have seen, although not with a big repertoire. :D But it doesn't matter, personal ability to create own shoots etc, is irrelevant in this conversation as we are talking about the best shooter.
And Kerr with 5 rings(kinda irrelevant), with clutch championship winning shots and 45.4% at the 3pt line in the end, is a very good case.

Kerr, as good as he was, had a few years with the shortened 3 point line. If you take those years away, then Curry's current career average exceeds his. Curry also takes many more per game than Kerr did. If you qualify and normalize the stats, Curry's on pace to be the greatest long range bomber. Even more impressive is that most of his shots are unassisted.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:04 pm
by TwentyOne920
And unlike many 3 point specialist Curry shoots a significant percentage of his bombs off the dribble. :o

He's not just a catch and shoot guy like Korver/Novak/Bonner.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:08 pm
by Tave
Brovva Blaqq wrote:
Frank Mulely wrote:As for Steph's future, either his ankles hold and he's a HOF and at least a top-3 shooter all-time or his ankles don't hold and he'll be a commentator.


I agree.

Strangely enough I don't like or appreciate Curry's game at all... :oops:


How come? The kid just exudes talent from every pore. He's a natural with one of if not the most polished, complete games in the league. It's like watching poetry.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:10 pm
by FlashFlare
Speaking of 3pt shooting, does anyone think the 12 3s in a game record will be broken? Is Curry the most likely to break it?

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:12 pm
by jstnw89
Brovva Blaqq wrote:
Frank Mulely wrote:As for Steph's future, either his ankles hold and he's a HOF and at least a top-3 shooter all-time or his ankles don't hold and he'll be a commentator.


I agree.

Strangely enough I don't like or appreciate Curry's game at all... :oops:
:crazy:

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:45 pm
by 9abovetherim
Fred Williamson wrote:I don't think his career will last more than 5 years

wow..

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:18 pm
by KiySi
Is it just me, or did Steph's father - Dell Curry - not get mentioned at all in this thread as being one of the best shooters of all time.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:06 pm
by Frank Mulely
KiySi wrote:Is it just me, or did Steph's father - Dell Curry - not get mentioned at all in this thread as being one of the best shooters of all time.


hey if we're going specialists let's throw in Craig Hodges, Dale Ellis etc.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:10 pm
by Massamba
Steve Novak and Anthony Morow are one of the greatest in my opinion. We only give credit to all star players, but many role players used to be great shooters.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:01 am
by Warriors Analyst
Galis4 wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:There to me have only been 2 guys that you could consider for greatest shooter ever and those would be Ray Allen and Reggie Miller. They in my opinion are head and shoulders above everybody else when you factor in shooting, coming off screens, moving without the ball, clutch factor etc.... but man Stephen curry i feel like in 15 years he could be in the conversation with those guys as one of the best ever to shoot it. I could watch him shoot it all day, in fact i think he has the nicest looking stroke ever besides jesus shuttlesworth. So what do you guys think? Barring injuries can this guy make it into that conversation? I think he could pass reggie millers makes but depending on how much longer ray ray plays that record might be hard to beat.



In 15 years from now you feel.....? :o :D
Let 5 years pass and then we can have some "data" to talk.

You all seem to forget the incredible Steve. Steve Kerr. OK ok he wasn't a starter and his weapon was mainly the 3s, but we are talking about ability to shoot so his unbelievable 3 years of having more than 50% at the 3 point area with a very very good amount of shots attempted and the overall 45.4%(!!!!), is something that shouldn't go unnoticed. He was the most consistent shooter i have seen, although not with a big repertoire. :D But it doesn't matter, personal ability to create own shoots etc, is irrelevant in this conversation as we are talking about the best shooter.
And Kerr with 5 rings(kinda irrelevant), with clutch championship winning shots and 45.4% at the 3pt line in the end, is a very good case.


Kerr was a 3point specialist with a shortened 3 point line who averaged a lot less attempts a game than Curry does. Another thing to consider as well would be that Curry is the focus of every defense we face and teams are forced to guard him at the top of the key leaving him with little space because they fear his shot so much. Kerr or any other shooting specialist wouldn't be doing anything like what Curry is doing if they had as much defensive attention as Curry recieves.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:03 am
by [GR]
Ray always gets overrated in these conversations. Just because you make the most, doesn't mean you're the best.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:06 pm
by BScoreez
[GR] wrote:Ray always gets overrated in these conversations. Just because you make the most, doesn't mean you're the best.


Do you factor in the degree of difficulty on Ray Allen's shots. For most of his career teams sole focus was to stop him. It becomes much harder to shoot great %'s when this is the case. If he wasn't a top offensive option for so many years he probably would have a career 3pt% closer to 45%. Kinda like he shoots these past few years even though he is past his prime. There are only 3 players in history to average over 15 pts/game, make 2 or more 3's/game and shoot 40% or better. Steph Curry, Peja Stojakovic, and Ray Allen.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:40 pm
by bbjaylive
As long as he stays healthy, can't see why not. He probably has the best shot form in the game, better than Ray Allen's and far better than Reggie Miller's.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:46 pm
by Deimos
i honestly feel that Ray isn't the "greatest" shooter. he's good in that he comes off screens, gets open looks and gets them in (that i feel he's probably the best at). But straight up one vs one matchups, i don't consider him that great. There have been so many other "shooters" that are capable of better creating their own shot.
just an example: Tmac imo is a better shooter than ray allen. but hey, thats just me :wink:

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:51 pm
by Frank Mulely
Deimos wrote:Tmac imo is a better shooter than ray allen. but hey, thats just me :wink:

yep that's just you.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:55 pm
by KyletheDingbat
Curry hits every shot he takes. So annoying.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:00 pm
by floppymoose
StocktonShorts wrote:I've seen a lot of "Steph Curry is the greatest shooter ever" threads and tweets lately. Usually those are the types of discussions you have AFTER a guy has played 10+ years, not after ~200 games.

When you are as good a shooter as Curry is, you get those discussions after 200 games.