NYK_89 wrote:DUDE OH MY GOD.
What are you not getting.
In both series the outcome was never in doubt (From an outside observer, also obviously after game 2 because game 1 changed some minds)
Both series were what you would consider a beat down. 4-1 the other team would have to have gone 3-0 to win it etc.
In the Heat series we look at the winner and go wow they really played well, they are probably going on to a championship, and if that series was played well again its probably going down in a similar fashion. Yes the bulls played close every game but the heat got it done and won 4-1
In the Pacers series we go wow they better get it together and not play like that in the next few series or this championship run is doomed. We ask why we needed buzzer beater esque shots in multiple games to win in 5, how a team locked in for a championship run let a 37 win team get a win on them. The talk is 100% about improving and getting better for the next series etc.
IT WAS WEIRDLY CLOSE BECAUSE PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT SERIES WAS GOING TO BE OVER IN 4 STRAIGHT BLOWOUTS, WHILE NOT ACTUALLY CLOSE IN THE SENSE THAT THE PACERS HAD A CHANCE TO WIN THE SERIES THE PACERS PLAYED IT MUCH MUCH MUCH CLOSER THEN ANYONE THOUGHT POSSIBLE.
THE MIAMI SERIES WAS A BLOWOUT JUST LIKE THE PACERS SERIES. HOWEVER THIS SERIES LOOKED TO GO AT LEAST 6 GAMES.
WHEN I REFER TO THE PACERS SERIES AS WEIRDLY CLOSE AND THE HEAT SERIES AS A BLOWOUT WHEN THEY WERE EQUALLY CLOSE IT IS BECAUSE THE PACERS PLAYED IT CLOSE WHEN NOT EXPECTED. HAD I ACTUALLY MEANT THE PACERS COULD HAVE WON THE SERIES I WOULD HAVE JUST SAID A CLOSE SERIES.If vogel was 20-18 then the Pacers we're 17-27 without him. That is a huge difference. Using the arbitary 37 win number is misleading if not downright irrelevant.
What are you not getting man even a falsely extrapolated version of that record is pathetic next to Chicago and equivelnt to the Knicks who got swept in the first round.
Here are the playoff odds for that first round.
Chicago -3400, Indiana +2200
Miami -1800, Philadelphia +1000
Boston -380, New York +300
Orlando -550, Atlanta +425
Los Angeles -2000, New Orleans +1400
San Antonio -370, Memphis +280
Oklahoma City -215, Denver +180
Dallas -205, Portland +175
That should give you a pretty damn good idea of what the attitude towards this series was at the time even a series like Miami Phili was twice as good odds. They are without a doubt the worst playoff team of the last 2 years.
Also as i noted before I assume you viewed the Knicks by the league #2 defense and their 20-8(?) record which was 2nd in the league over the stretch last year right. By your logic they must have been the clear #2 team in the east because obviously the sub 500 record they had with Dantoni was irrelevant. How did that work out for them.
Anyways i hope Rose can get back and playing well soon here, im hoping they wait until march 8th(?), By then i imagine they will have a better view of what their aspirations are this season and the risk of re injury by then will be very low
Obviously the knicks overall record last year isnt indicative of the type of team they wre going into the playoffs. Does that mean I think they were a top 2 team, no, but you won't see me using their overall record as a quality of opponent indicator. It would flat out be inaccurate.
