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Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:53 am
by Infinite Llamas
From 2000-01 until 2008-09, 50 points was scored on 81 occasions (18 alone in 06-07)
From 2009-10 on, there have been only 9 instances.
I can't speak for everybody, but there has always been a great appeal to the 50 point game. And then I think back to times when Willie Burton/Dana Barros/Tracy Murray reached the feat and how exciting it was. Trading cards used to have "50 point club" subsets. Just something special about that number, I suppose...
Now, seemingly, amny of the players who could score 50 are stuck on super teams (Kobe, Durant, Lebron, Carmelo), so there's never really the need to go out and score 50 to carry a game, like you'd see with T-Mac, AI, Arenas. And I understand that basketball is a team sport, but there's always been soemthing exciting about those great individual games that forever stand out.
2012-12 has one 50-point game. Is the 50-point game nearly extinct?
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:02 am
by vinceWin
Durant will start dropping 50 point games like nothing in two years.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:02 am
by bledredwine
in all fairness,
you had people like Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing who had smooth offensive games. All of them had automatic post-up games.
The only truly finess offensive players right now are Lebron, Kobe, Melo, KD.... and only 3 of the 4 are in their prime, aka really able to hit 50. Out of those, only 2 have a post game.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:03 am
by justinian
I remember the days of Agent Zero dropping 50 and Jamison dropping huge digits in GSW too
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:04 am
by justinian
bledredwine wrote:in all fairness,
you had people like Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing who had smooth offensive games. All of them had automatic post-up games.
The only truly finess offensive players right now are Lebron, Kobe, Melo, KD.... and only 3 of the 4 are in their prime, aka really able to hit 50. Out of those, only 2 have a post game.
Add LaMarcus Aldridge, the guy can be a scoring machine, if he is assertive enough. Pure finess
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:04 am
by minifang
Answer: super teams; the talent and scoring is distributed.
I can see Irving and Melo going for 50.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:05 am
by Sn0wman
vinceWin wrote:Durant will start dropping 50 point games after Westbrook gets traded.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:05 am
by Minge
Comment removed.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:06 am
by tsherkin
justinian wrote:
Add LaMarcus Aldridge, the guy can be a scoring machine, if he is assertive enough. Pure finess
Puke, no thanks. He is too deeply entrenched in mediocrity as a scorer to justify the volume necessary for 50 points.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:06 am
by bledredwine
justinian wrote:bledredwine wrote:in all fairness,
you had people like Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing who had smooth offensive games. All of them had automatic post-up games.
The only truly finess offensive players right now are Lebron, Kobe, Melo, KD.... and only 3 of the 4 are in their prime, aka really able to hit 50. Out of those, only 2 have a post game.
Add LaMarcus Aldridge, the guy can be a scoring machine, if he is assertive enough. Pure finess
uh... LaMarcus is great and I respect him a lot,
but a 50 point scorer? He is not.
Heck, he barely averages 20.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:07 am
by justinian
bledredwine wrote:justinian wrote:bledredwine wrote:in all fairness,
you had people like Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing who had smooth offensive games. All of them had automatic post-up games.
The only truly finess offensive players right now are Lebron, Kobe, Melo, KD.... and only 3 of the 4 are in their prime, aka really able to hit 50. Out of those, only 2 have a post game.
Add LaMarcus Aldridge, the guy can be a scoring machine, if he is assertive enough. Pure finess
uh... LaMarcus is great and I respect him a lot,
but a 50 point scorer? He is not.
Heck, he barely averages 20.
Off by some ..yes
Points: 42 on February 7, 2011 against the Chicago Bulls.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:09 am
by bledredwine
Minge wrote:“Superteams” don’t require 50 point scorers, according to the Media.
Even Lebron's had only 9 50 point games in his career.
That's not a lot considering he's the best in the league. Of course he will have less on the Heat now that he has plenty of help alongside Bosh/Allen/Wade and co.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:10 am
by StyLeD
To score that much you have to be in a close game where one player shoulders the load against another team. Teams have realized that this 1v5 hero ball doesn't work. Guys like Allen Iverson and Tmac just don't exist anymore.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:14 am
by bledredwine
StyLeD wrote:To score that much you have to be in a close game where one player shoulders the load against another team. Teams have realized that this 1v5 hero ball doesn't work. Guys like Allen Iverson and Tmac just don't exist anymore.
You're kidding right? Now, ISO ball is more popular than it's ever been. I guarantee that passes per possession is less now than it used to be.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:15 am
by kasino
Idk that's really strange but I can see Harden or Irving doing it a couple of times as they are on teams with little offensive talent
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:26 am
by Jake0890
The only players I can see scoring 50 are Harden, Irving, Melo, KD, and MAYBE LeBron, only because he has Bosh and Wade and doesn't need 50.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:52 am
by Stolen Team Fan
Sn0wman wrote:vinceWin wrote:Durant will start dropping 50 point games after Westbrook gets traded.
It's too late, man. They already traded Harden, so the Thunder are stuck with their master brick-layer.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:52 am
by blocks
Infinite Llamas wrote:From 2000-01 until 2008-09, 50 points was scored on 81 occasions (18 alone in 06-07)
The 06-2007 numbers are rather skewed considering 10 of 18 50-point games were scored by one player.
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:53 am
by Stolen Team Fan
FFS. I hate my tablet. Why is there no delete post button?
Re: Players never seem to score 50 in a game anymore...
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:53 am
by Ettorefm
Durant will start dropping 50 point games like nothing in two years.
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Change Durant for Lebron and you got it right.
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The dude is always on a different mission. When people say he can't do something, he does it. Last year, post game. This year, efficiency AND THREE POINTER. Next year, he's probably gonna try the triple double average or the 30+ points again. That's a thing missing in his legacy - more absurd scoring games in the playoffs and regular season.
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I'm waiting for another 50 point game from Lebron. I miss those.