Braggins wrote:hype_2004 wrote:Braggins wrote:I didnt say they dont have world class athletes, just that their combine measurements can be misleading and arent a good thing to base the argument on.
Obviously, someone who specializes in running in a straight line over a specific distance is going to beat people at that measurement that dont specialize in it and someone winning a foot race doesnt automatically make him the superior athlete. Its more complicated than that. Ted Ginn very well may be faster than Westbrook, but hes also 5'11 and weighs 185 pounds. Westbrook certainly has some advantages in other athletic areas.
You cant just pick and choose the top specialists in certain areas and use them to say that NFL players are better overall athletes. You can probably find a random 5'10 corner is faster than any NBA player but doesnt have the strength, size or coordination to play in the NBA or even other football positions. There have been guys like Allen Iverson at that size in the NBA who were just as quick/fast/explosive, if not more, than any NFL corner. You can also surely find a 6'4 265 pound linebacker who is way stronger than any 6'4 NBA player, but isnt nearly as quick or agile as top NBA athletes of that height. Its really difficult to compare the two sports honestly. I tend to prefer the top NBA athletes because they seem to be more well rounded and their often absurd height just makes them seem more impressive. Some of the giant athletic freaks in the NBA don't even seem like they could possibly be the same species as the rest of us. They are much rarer than the athletic freaks of the NFL. That might not be the fairest way to ultimately decide, but idk. I can't help but be much more impressed by a Lebron James or Wilt Chamberlain type than anything I've ever seen in the NFL.
So your more impressed by TALL guys who move fast than short guys who are absolutely world class in terms of athletic talents? fair enough but that doesn't mean these tall dudes they are more ATHLETIC frankly I don't give a rats ass if they guys is 7 feet or 5 feet when it comes to pure athleticism.
I was specifically referring to guys that have world class athleticism and are also giant. I'm not saying I think Marcin Gortat is a more impressive athlete than Calvin Johnson, but I absolutely find Lebron, Wilt, and other giant athletic freaks to be more impressive than anyone I've ever seen in the NFL. What is more rare, a 6'4 guy with elite athleticism or a 7'1 guy with elite athleticism? Do NFL fans not consider Calvin Johnson to be one of the most impressive athletes because he has elite speed and leaping ability and is also 3-6 inches taller than other guys with comparable ability? Don't act like even NFL fans don't use size as part of their criteria for what makes an athlete special. You just don't want to use that criteria now since we are comparing your preferred athletes to people from another sport who have a very clear advantage in that regard. I'm sorry, but use your brain before acting like I'm the one making a silly point.
The argument if who has the better pure athletes NFL or the NBA and not who has the more impressive TALL athletes, that is what your trying to imply and argue, likewise whether someon is 7 feet or 5 feet is not a concern of mine if the 5 foot guy beat the 7 foot guy on every athletic testing does that make the 7 foot guy more athletic because he seems more impressive?