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Here are some facts about the 2013 Lakers FTA advantage since March.

21 games is not a small sample size. It is a quarter of a season worth of games.

1. They have shot an avg of 12.4 more FTA per game than the opposition.
2. No team in NBA history has ever averaged that more FTA per game over an 82 game season. Basically since the beginning of March the 2013 LAL, a team stuck around .50, has been the greatest team in NBA history at drawing a free throw advantage.
3. Teams playing LAL has shot 5.36 less FTA than their season average.
4. They have shot under their seasonal FTA in 19 of 21 games.

They do have Dwight who is horrible beyond comparison so teams are and will foul Dwight more which leads into the stat.

But what's your point here anyways?

Flash3 wrote:They do have Dwight who is horrible beyond comparison so teams are and will foul Dwight more which leads into the stat.

But what's your point here anyways?

I think his point is pretty obvious. He's insinuating that LA is receiving favorably officiating, perhaps with the goal of helping them make the playoffs.

Flash3 wrote:They do have Dwight who is horrible beyond comparison so teams are and will foul Dwight more which leads into the stat.

1. The fact that they have Dwight and that he gets fouled more doesn't explain away the fact that their opposition has shot under their expected FTA/G in 19 of 21 games.
2. Lots of teams have good scorers who are bad at the stripe and yet the advantage the lakers are getting at the stripe over the last 1/4 of the season is basically unprecedented.

mopper8 wrote:

Flash3 wrote:They do have Dwight who is horrible beyond comparison so teams are and will foul Dwight more which leads into the stat.

But what's your point here anyways?

I think his point is pretty obvious. He's insinuating that LA is receiving favorably officiating, perhaps with the goal of helping them make the playoffs.

1. The fact that they have Dwight and that he gets fouled more doesn't explain away the fact that their opposition has shot under their expected FTA/G in 19 of 21 games.
2. Lots of teams have good scorers who are bad at the stripe and yet the advantage the lakers are getting at the stripe over the last 1/4 of the season is basically unprecedented.

There are always a few calls here and there that star players and their respective teams get - it's always been part of the NBA. But with Dwight on the team and the hack-a-Dwight so many teams have adopted, the numbers above have to be skewed in such a manner.

It would be interesting to take all of the fouls AND resulting FTs that occurred due to fouling Dwight and LA being in the penalty - will be hard - but I'm sure there might be some sort of analytics where this situation can be filtered to derive.

As a Warriors fan, I was honestly impressed last night. If we almost won 8 on 5, I think that says a lot about how we played.

sp6r=underrated wrote:

Flash3 wrote:They do have Dwight who is horrible beyond comparison so teams are and will foul Dwight more which leads into the stat.

1. The fact that they have Dwight and that he gets fouled more doesn't explain away the fact that their opposition has shot under their expected FTA/G in 19 of 21 games.
2. Lots of teams have good scorers who are bad at the stripe and yet the advantage the lakers are getting at the stripe over the last 1/4 of the season is basically unprecedented.

That's pretty unreal. I haven't watched the games so I can't pretend like I know anything about it. There have been a ton of threads I've seen over this period of other teams fans pointing it out.

Flash3 wrote:
There are always a few calls here and there that star players and their respective teams get - it's always been part of the NBA. But with Dwight on the team and the hack-a-Dwight so many teams have adopted, the numbers above have to be skewed in such a manner.

It would be interesting to take all of the fouls AND resulting FTs that occurred due to fouling Dwight and LA being in the penalty - will be hard - but I'm sure there might be some sort of analytics where this situation can be filtered to derive.

1. You're overthinking this. Dwight Howard type players on offense have a long history in the NBA. Take Shaq who was better than Dwight, got intentionally fouled all the time and played on much better teams than the 13 lakers yet none of his teams ever had an advantage like LAL has seen over the last 21 games for a full season. The 09 Magic, with the exact same player and a much team than 13 Lakers did not come close to this advantage.

2. You are again skipping over my evidence that the opposition has shot under their expected FTA/G in 19 of 21 games. Dwight's impact on offense is irrelevent here. How is a team with awful perimeter defense, which allows teams to get into the lane alot never sending anyone to the line.

It's irrelevant now. Even if they make the playoffs, they're not going anywhere without Kobe.

HotRocks34 wrote:It's irrelevant now. Even if they make the playoffs, they're not going anywhere without Kobe.

It is still disgraceful.

sp6r=underrated wrote:

Flash3 wrote:They do have Dwight who is horrible beyond comparison so teams are and will foul Dwight more which leads into the stat.

1. The fact that they have Dwight and that he gets fouled more doesn't explain away the fact that their opposition has shot under their expected FTA/G in 19 of 21 games.
2. Lots of teams have good scorers who are bad at the stripe and yet the advantage the lakers are getting at the stripe over the last 1/4 of the season is basically unprecedented.

lakers give up more open jumpers than any time ive ever seen in nba history. we are a horrible defense. easy layups when dwight is out too and even sometimes when dwight gets lost.

Dwight takes 9.4 FTA
Kobe takes 8.0 FTA

When you have 2 guys who have historically gotten to the line alot, what exactly do you expect? These guys get teams into the penalty, which leads to FTs on any kind of foul. You also have the Hack-a-Dwight factor which has been employed multiple times in March. Teams shoot fewer FTs because Dwight's in the middle(in a league with weak big men), and LA is slow at rotating,and slow in transition defense, so they're not even in the position to foul. The 7 man rotation where these guys play heavy minutes also magnifies the effect.

But seriously, cry some more. How ironic for a Spurs fan to post this, when people have claimed this against them for years and called them the Sterns. You should know better than to buy into this conspiracy crap.

Theres are dozens of better explanations than "CONSPIRACY" you guys

Its easy to just look at box scores, but be honest with yourself, how many times this year have you actually sat down and watched an entire Laker game? Outside of Laker fans, probably less than 10, 5, maybe just one? Ive tuned into plenty of 4th quarters in close games, but actually devoting an entire 2.5 hours to watching LA play some random team, probably not too many people have done more than a couple times outside of Laker fans.

Lakers are just playing hard, just like the Celtics in game 2 of the 2008 finals.

They asked Pau to go the post more, and screw D'Antoni's offense. Kobe and Dwight kept going to the line like they usually would, and of course you would have a great FTA advantage. The Lakers don't foul a lot... because, well, the perimeter D is so bad opposing teams have an easy time getting wide open jumpers or easy drives to the lane. Dwight Howard is the only one that plays any kind of "defense", on that roster. The rest of the team is a liability on that end.

Honestly, though, if you're convinced there's conspiracy, you really shouldn't be watching the sport.

The Lakers have played a lot of weak teams since the ASG though. Even if there is some degree of truth to this it's not helping the Lakers much. They could still very well be overtaken by the Jazz.

I dont understand why ppl are so surprised. You act like its the first time you've watched the NBA. This is what they do. The Lakers have only missed the playoffs 5 times since 1949. Did you really think the NBA was going to let them not make the playoffs this year after forming a superteam?

Lets see...Spurs/Thunder v Jazz? or Spurs/Thunder v Lakers?

It was obvious they were going to do whatever it took to get the Lakers in over the Jazz.

An Unbiased Fan wrote:Dwight takes 9.4 FTA
Kobe takes 8.0 FTA

When you have 2 guys who have historically gotten to the line alot, what exactly do you expect? These guys get teams into the penalty, which leads to FTs on any kind of foul. You also have the Hack-a-Dwight factor which has been employed multiple times in March. Teams shoot fewer FTs because Dwight's in the middle(in a league with weak big men), and LA is slow at rotating,and slow in transition defense, so they're not even in the position to foul. The 7 man rotation where these guys play heavy minutes also magnifies the effect.

But seriously, cry some more. How ironic for a Spurs fan to post this, when people have claimed this against them for years and called them the Sterns. You should know better than to buy into this conspiracy crap.

There are many more teams in the league that have players who get to the line as much if not more. Miami is an easy example as is okc.

microfib4thewin wrote:The Lakers have played a lot of weak teams since the ASG though. Even if there is some degree of truth to this it's not helping the Lakers much. They could still very well be overtaken by the Jazz.

Yeah this is where my head tends to be at on this question. They've had a pretty soft schedule. And it's not like the lack of FTA attempts for their opponents has let LA get away with muggings...their Drtg is still atrocious. You can't foul a player if you're so out of position that you're not even in his vicinity lol

I don't know if there is a great ref conspiracy in the sky, but what I do know is last night's game, and the game against Portland a few weeks ago, were key games that were absurdly officiated.