Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets?

TheChosen618 · Post #1 » by **TheChosen618** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 9:48 pm

I don't get why just because the Rockets signed Dwight Howard that people think they automatically have to get rid of Lin now. I understand why they have to get rid of Asik now because they need to fulfill other needs in other areas/positions and also because Asik might not be happy with a backup role. It doesn't make sense for Lin though.

Lin is still going to be the starting PG for the team. He doesn't really complain much about his role or even his minutes like when he gets benched at the end of games or in 4th quarters. He understands his role and does whatever he has to do to help his team win.

He is a terrific pick and roll player and playing with Dwight will help him big time. If Lin could dominate the pick and roll with Chandler in the Knicks then I imagine we would see even more incredible things with Howard. Asik wasn't a great pick and roll player because of his inability to catch specifically bounce passes. Dwight has one of the better hands in the NBA, so both Lin and Harden's lives will be easier with Dwight under the basket.

I imagine the next thing someone will say is that Lin can't shoot the ball very well and that is actually starting to become a myth.

After the all-star break, Lin shot 38% from the 3 point land which is very good and it's even more impressive because most shooters shots go broke after the all-star game due to fatigue from the grueling season. Lin just had trouble adjusting in the first months with playing alongside Harden and a new team and also recovering from his own knee injury from the 2012 season. People need to remember that Harden didn't even play a preseason game with the Rockets and everybody on the Rockets had to adjust to him when he got here since he was going to be their franchise player.

Maybe it's because of Lin's horrendous playoff performance against the Thunder that is making people doubt him again, but people aren't taking into consideration how he injured his chest in the post-season. He had a pretty bad Game 1 even when he was healthy but before he got hurt in Game 2, he was playing quite well.

It's amazing how underrated Lin has become and I think he'll be integral in the Rockets future. Hopefully Morey is smart enough to give him the chance...

Vader · Post #2 » by **Vader** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 9:54 pm

It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

nyc6 · Post #3 » by **nyc6** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 9:57 pm

RealGM.com where it's shameful to explore the possibility of trading a player in order to potentially improve the team

Why do you think morey got harden and Trob cheap? Because other GM's are lazy and think like you

jamesnamida · Post #4 » by **jamesnamida** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 9:57 pm

Can't shoot or dribble well.
Oh well look at monta Ellis and his numbers post allstar break. Does that change him as a player?

Bad fit with harden and Dwight. They both can't shoot so it's better to have a 3 and D pg with solid handles to space.

MKG35 · Post #5 » by **MKG35** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 9:59 pm

Vader wrote:It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

If he wasn't Asian there would have never been such a hype about him. There are barely Asians players in the league, finally one has tremendous success with the beautiful story attached and there you go.

There you go, another way to put it.

Dupp · Post #6 » by **Dupp** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:00 pm

Money is the biggest reason i imagine. Especially if they are still chasing that next near max 3rd guy.

Vader wrote:It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

Post #7 » by **Doctor MJ** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:02 pm

I'm still giving him a chance, but some things are clearly against him.

Had Houston acquired Harden first, simply put, they wouldn't have pursued Lin. They pursued Lin with the intention of giving him a chance to do his D'Antoni thing in Houston because it was worth a shot, but the acquisition of Harden meant that before Lin even played his first team with the Rockets the role they imagined for him ceased to exist.

So if Lin makes it there now, it will be in a very different role from the one that got him attention in the first place. It shouldn't be any surprise that the Rockets would have no problem moving the guy if it helped facilitate any important trade.

dolphinatik · Post #8 » by **dolphinatik** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:03 pm

Rockets had more success without Lin in the lineup. Its just all about fit right now and they have some ball handlers that fit better right now. Its not up to us to give Lin a chance he still has training camp to proove himself. If he impresses then he has nothing to worry about. Lins job isnt being taken away he is giving it away. Its up to Lin to not let that happen.

Personally Id start Beverley but Im a Beverley fan since his high school ballin in chicago; as soon as I found out he was on the Rockets I tracked his stats then the rest of the world saw him in the playoffs. However its still Lins job to lose.

XcalibuR · Post #9 » by **XcalibuR** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:03 pm

I have no doubt that the Rockets will at least stick with Lin this season to see how things go. People look at Harden and Howard and just think the Rockets need to get a Derek Fisher type PG and a stretch 4 PF. But its not that easy to build a team or every team would look the same.

Juggynaut · Post #10 » by **Juggynaut** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:03 pm

MKG35 wrote:
Vader wrote:It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

If he wasn't Asian there would have never been such a hype about him. There are barely Asians players in the league, finally one has tremendous success with the beautiful story attached and there you go.

There you go, another way to put it.

Exactly he's a an Asian Ramon Sessions, good backup PG and solid starter.

NamelessHero · Post #11 » by **NamelessHero** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:03 pm

i hope rockets will not make the same mistake again...

bigbreakfast · Post #12 » by **bigbreakfast** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:05 pm

don't know. keep in mind realgm is a buncha fanatical fans who are by nature extremely irrational (esp certain teams). one minute everyone loved him the next everyone hates him. god forbid a young nba player coming off of his first full season had an up and down season. he can fit with this team. definitely struggled early playing along side harden, but they looked like they were starting to figure it out. lin, harden, parson, ? dwight will be fun too watch for sure.

turtlesnjoi · Post #13 » by **turtlesnjoi** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:05 pm

Because they now have championship aspirations and Lin blows.

M4P · Post #14 » by **M4P** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:05 pm

jamesnamida wrote:Can't shoot or dribble well.
Oh well look at monta Ellis and his numbers post allstar break. Does that change him as a player?

Bad fit with harden and Dwight. They both can't shoot so it's better to have a 3 and D pg with solid handles to space.

Why do people still think they Harden is a horrible shooter? Of course someone's 3pt percentage is gonna drop when you become the focal point of a run n gun team.

If the Rockets can't find a better alternative at PG without giving up assets, I'd be ok with running with Lin. People seem to forget that he's still young and learning.

LarsV8 · Post #15 » by **LarsV8** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:05 pm

Vader wrote:It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

Absurd.

Jeremy Lin is a fine player, but he is not what the Rockets need. His strengths are running the break and running the pick and roll. Unfortunately, Harden is superior in that regard and his backup is a better fit for what the Rockets are doing, at a fraction of the cost.

What the Rockets need is a guy who can spot up shoot, defend and not turn the ball over. That is not Lin. He needs to go to a team where he can assume the role of primary ball handler.

bigbreakfast · Post #16 » by **bigbreakfast** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:06 pm

MKG35 wrote:
Vader wrote:It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

If he wasn't Asian there would have never been such a hype about him. There are barely Asians players in the league, finally one has tremendous success with the beautiful story attached and there you go.

There you go, another way to put it.

this is **** stupid. if he wasn't asian he wouldn't have been overlooked his entire playing career before linsanity. The reason why there was so much hype was because nobody expected an asian kid to be able to play guard in the NBA because of the racial stereotypes that exist in basketball. There you go, yet another way to put it.

The Warrior · Post #17 » by **The Warrior** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:06 pm

In my opinion Kyle Lowry would be the perfect PG in the system they're trying to implement with Harden and Howard.

still · Post #18 » by **still** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:06 pm

hes not good enough to be a part of a big 3 (neither is chandler). he wasnt that bad last season at all but he doesnt really fit very well, is a shaky shooter, mediocre to poor ball security, and is more of a deceptively athletic than truly physically athletic guard. his good attributes are defense, finishing, and leadership but those are essentially encompassed and exceeded by harden except maybe defense.

in other words he isnt bad but he is just simply obsolescent on that team

still · Post #19 » by **still** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:07 pm

Aaron Hotchner wrote:In my opinion Kyle Lowry would be the perfect PG in the system they're trying to implement with Harden and Howard.

yeah me too

twix2500 · Post #20 » by **twix2500** » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:08 pm

Its because the media was sure that Howard demanded the Rockets to add Josh Smith, which they were wrong again. And the only way that the Rockets could get Smith was to trade Lin and Asik together. The Rockets make too much money because of Jeremy Lin for them to easily move him.