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Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:32 am
by WaffleRecord
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 10m
Heard first strong rumbles this weekend that Gordon Hayward, like Derrick Favors, will indeed get extension from Jazz before Oct. 31 buzzer
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 9m
Jazz won't go any farther publicly than acknowledging talks ongoing but I'm told deal -- if completed -- will be richer than Favors' deal
Just curious what others think he's worth. Is he worth near max?
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:33 am
by Winglish
No.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:36 am
by pace31
Anything more than 4/40 will disappoint me and even that has me iffy.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:39 am
by nicnac215
I would guess 5 years $40 million.
Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:47 am
by Litany
If he gets near max I will be very disappointed. Jazz moves this offseason have been awesome. This would be a big blunder IMO. I think 11 max
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:49 am
by kingkirk
4 years / 38 - 44 million.
Anything more is certainly overpaying, and like mentioned, would be a bad move amongst some quality ones they have made recently.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:51 am
by Imon
I'll probably get flamed for this but meh.
I'm not as impressed with Hayward as others seem to be. Doesn't seem like a long-term #2 to me. A #3 guy at best.
$28/3 yrs seems fair to me.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:59 am
by Ruckusmh
Hayward is a good player but anything over 10 or so /yr is an overpay. Not that he couldn't live up to say 50/4 or something like that, but he would have to improve quite a bit.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:59 am
by pross
I think around $8m/year is fair. He'll probably end up closer to the $10m/year though.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:06 am
by dan_atko97
better doing it this offseason than next where he'll have a whole season to chuck and up his value
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:08 am
by noobcake
14/3/3 on 43.5% is now a 10m/year player?
1m on top of MLE is the max i'll pay.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:14 am
by steamed hams
I hope he gets 5 years $70 million. GORDON HAYWARD!!!!
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:15 am
by DoubleLintendre
7-8mil/4 seasons with a team option
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:17 am
by ManualRam
4/40 is solid imo. hayward's shown the most improvement on that roster. versatile, intelligent, good shooter, improving shot creating ability, improved on the ball defense, potential 2ndary ball-handling ability (i see he's running some point forward).
i heard he created a pretty big buzz this summer with his performance for usa basketball, impressing onlookers. it'd behoove them to lock him up asap.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:27 am
by nuposse04
anything over 9 mil a year is overpay for his production...but I guess he may finally get more playing time this season.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:34 am
by Inigo_Montoya
Locking him up early is probably going to be a solid move if they can keep his deal in the ballpark of Favors'. If they pass on the extension I can see him getting offers somewhere between Batum and George as a restricted free agent.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:38 am
by LarsV8
I don't like this.
The Jazz don't have a franchise player and they should not be handing out long term deals to lock in a core that will not be good enough to win a ring.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:41 am
by pace31
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine----------------
Jazz won't go any farther publicly than acknowledging talks ongoing but I'm told deal -- if completed -- will be richer than Favors' deal
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As much as I like Hayward I don't like a deal that has him getting more than Favors right now. I liked us pulling the trigger on Favors since I think he'll command more attention next offseason, but I don't see the point in offering Hayward more since I think he'll draw less interest.
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:06 am
by cjs55
Hayward is underrated and performs pretty damn close to Paul George per 36. Last year:
per 36
Hayward 17.4/3.8/3.6, 1 steal, .7 blocks, 2.1 TOs, .435 FG%, .415 3pt%, .827 FT%, PER 17.3, Opp. PER 12.0
George 16.7/7.3/4.0, 1.7 steals, .6 blocks, 2.8 TOs, .419 FG%, .362 3pt%, .807 FT%, PER 17.6, Opp. PER 11.2
I'm also laughing at all of the suckers who keep letting him drop to me in the 80th-90th pick in fantasy basketball. Expect Hayward to play 36 minutes a game, or damn close to it, so even if he doesn't improve he'll still be putting up nice numbers.
Regarding contract, I'm fine with him getting a 4/44 deal, but anything more than that is too much. (Note, Favors just got overpaid, 4/44 should have been his deal as well).
Re: Gordon Hayward's Worth?
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:17 am
by FluLikeSymptoms
I'm guessing DeRozan's 4/$38M would be the comparison.