No extension for Gordon Hayward -> to become RFA July 1

[Litany]

@WojYahooNBA: Extension talks between Utah and Gordon Hayward are over, league sources tell Yahoo. Hayward will be a restricted free agent on July 1.

@WojYahooNBA: Jazz and Gordon Hayward never came close on an extension, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. The gap remained several million dollars apart.




My guess is the Jazz were at 11 per and it sounds like Hayward wanted "several million" more.


I think 11 per was generous. What does everyone else think?




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[XtotheDeezy]

He's good, but I think 11mil is good. Utah will have to overpay a bit though if they want to keep their 'stars'. I don't agree/disagree with it, but that's just the way it is.

[Catchall]

If the Jazz really need to pay that much to keep Hayward, they can do it next off-season. Sensible move by the Jazz. Hayward hasn't proven he's worth that much yet.

[pace31]

Sounds like they were asking for close to the max. Would've been stupid for the Jazz. If he actually performs at that or even better and gets a max offer he'll obviously deserve it and we'll have no problem matching.

I doubt it though.

[deanwoof]

i wouldn't give him anything more than what favors got.

[Nolan]

Not surprising, they were very far apart from the sounds of it. Jazz made the smart move, let the market decide how much he's worth.

[Litany]

From Woj article:

"The sides never came close on a deal, remaining several million dollars apart, league sources told Yahoo. Hayward had been seeking a deal in the four-year, $50-million plus range, sources said. "

Sounds like he wanted $13 per based on this. No incentive for Jazz to lock him up for that. Let him prove it. He's the one taking the risk here IMO.


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[Xsy]

I wish he signed an extension. Would have been the safe move for both parties.

Now that he's an RFA, there's a good chance one of the parties gets screwed.

I really hope he stays with Utah, though, he's my favorite player.

[Orlwillbeback]

since when is 12ppg worth 50 million?

[Bruteque]

@WojYahooNBA: Extension talks between Utah and Gordon Hayward are over, league sources tell Yahoo. Hayward will be a restricted free agent on July 1.

@WojYahooNBA: Jazz and Gordon Hayward never came close on an extension, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. The gap remained several million dollars apart.




My guess is the Jazz were at 11 per and it sounds like Hayward wanted "several million" more.


I think 11 per was generous. What does everyone else think?

I thought the $10 mil a year was a fair offer. I doubt that Hayward will get $11 mil a year in RFA.

He probably thinks that he is Luol Deng, but Deng has freak length, Hayward doesn't. Dream on, young man.

[zronv7]

Jazz could of low balled Hayward who knows, we don't know the full details. Apparently they're several millions apart and Hayward never discussed wanting a max deal. I'm guessing Hayward wanted something around 10 million while the Jazz offered 6-7 million/yr

[pace31]

"Per ESPN, Jazz offered $50M but wouldn't move past that number."

Found that on the Jazz boards so not sure the exact source, but if true ridiculous on the Jazz side for offering it and even more ridiculous for Hayward's camp to reject it.

Edit: found link towards the bottom: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/99108 ... oenix-suns

[Ruckusmh]

"Per ESPN, Jazz offered $50M but wouldn't move past that number."

Found that on the Jazz boards so not sure the exact source, but if true ridiculous on the Jazz side for offering it and even more ridiculous for Hayward's camp to reject it.

I understood that quote on the Jazz board as a misreading of the ESPN article - Jazz thought Hayward's push for over 50 was steep is not the same as Jazz offered 50.

IIRC, Jazz offered 40/4 and probably never moved much from there.

[sogood]

Smart move by Utah. Let's see how he does this season. 14/3/3 is not worth 50 million.

[KB24TBOTB]

Hayward is not worth 50m. Players today think they are worth all the money in the world, what does he do so well to be worth that much money. Glad Utah didn't budge unlike some other franchises that handicap themselves with such deals

[zronv7]

somebody will pay him max in the off season.

[jazzfan1971]

I like Hayward as a player, but, I think it would have been foolish to break the bank for him. Jazz made the smart move IMHO.

Funny, because I thought the Favors signing was a smart move as well.

I guess I'm higher on Favors for the same dollars.

[zronv7]

There may be more to it than just money for Gordon. It could be his relationship with the coach, his teammates, the system he's in, etc..I mean it all adds up. Hard to believe a guy like Gordon would just turn down 40m/4yrs if he was happy and comfortable which makes me believe there may be more to it.

It's kind of hard to commit long term with a team when you're not even comfortable with that team.

[erudite23]

That 4yr/47m deal for Favors is going to look like an incredible bargain by the time it kicks in. I think he would have probably gotten the max (or close to it) on the open market next season.

Hayward isn't worth a dime over 10m per season right now--and maybe not even that much. If he really walked away from 50m, he's out of his mind. Love watching the Jazz stick to their guns.

[Reckless]

I wouldn't pay him over 10 million. If someone else wants to overpay him the max be our guest.