What's the Secret to the Suns medical Staff?
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Media hype is the secret. They are nothing special compared to most others.
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Cyrusman122000 wrote:CoachKobe wrote:first and foremost it's the climate. and this is really old news, the healing qualities of the southwest's climate have been promoted for over a century now, even 100 years ago there were already sanatoriums. if you live in new york and have arthritis, just throw your meds out the window and move to arizona. it's the desert, not the medical staff. you think suns medical staff would have fixed grant hill in the nyc winter? no, never.
I doubt that's the reason. Otherwise the same would apply to the lakers, clippers, rockets, spurs and heat. Those are all warm cities as well..
Warm and dry.
LA is toxic/smog filled wasteland. Spurs, Rockets are in humid Texas.
Warmer dry climate is scientifically known to be better for the joints, in extension knees, hands, foot, etc. As for injury prevention, it is probably due to partially luck and partially due to the medical staff.
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BieberLUV wrote:if i were to build the perfect basketball franchise, i would have: daryl morey as head gm, prokhorov as owner, 3 apprentices from the spurs front offices, greg popovich as coach, scott brooks as a talent evaluator and the suns' medical staff
I'd rather have Mark Cuban as my owner. You can have a team of the greatest managers in basketball history together but the hours of logical moves they have discussed is wasted if the one man they have to report to would rather appease to his impulses. Prokhorov has displayed his basketball incompetency and would surely override any decision his GM made because he thinks it's right. Just like when Paul Allen made Kevin Pritchard sign Brandon Roy to that max extension against Pritchard's wishes.
Cuban, as annoying as he can get, has taken the time to understand basketball and has used his money to good use to assist the construction of his team rather than control it.
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i'd like to see a study of games missed due to injury by medical staff
when did the suns staff start getting all this praise? was it mostly grant hill related? and has their staff actually been a constant personnel-wise over the years?
when did the suns staff start getting all this praise? was it mostly grant hill related? and has their staff actually been a constant personnel-wise over the years?
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hopefully they can work on silva's leg
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Froob wrote:Surprised phoenix isn't a bigger draw for big name players. Wonder if they can fix Bynum's toxic personality.
injury prone Eric Gordon wanted to play in Phoenix but New Orleans still wanted him to be a injury prone player.
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It's unbelievable how many players got rejuvenated once they came to Phoenix, and how many of them became injured and old again as soon as they left.
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dice wrote:i'd like to see a study of games missed due to injury by medical staff
when did the suns staff start getting all this praise? was it mostly grant hill related? and has their staff actually been a constant personnel-wise over the years?
Same guy has been in charge almost 15 years. Nixon or something like that.
They've had a few miracle cases: J Oneal, Shaq, Redd, Nash and a few others I'm forgetting
Oddly I think the Spurs are a more healthy team over the reign of the miracle workers in PHO.
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Maybe they can help Anderson Silva
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jade_hippo wrote:dice wrote:i'd like to see a study of games missed due to injury by medical staff
when did the suns staff start getting all this praise? was it mostly grant hill related? and has their staff actually been a constant personnel-wise over the years?
Same guy has been in charge almost 15 years. Nixon or something like that.
They've had a few miracle cases: J Oneal, Shaq, Redd, Nash and a few others I'm forgetting
Oddly I think the Spurs are a more healthy team over the reign of the miracle workers in PHO.
Top medical staffs in the NBA imo:
Spurs
Suns
OKC
Miami
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If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.
NBA fan logic we need to trade one of two best players because (Player X) one needs to shine more.
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I can't remember where I read this, but PHO has a philosophy wherein they regard their training staff sort of like an appreciating investment in their players. Because of this view, their program has been cleared to experiment with some very unconventional but at the same time extremely innovative techniques.
One example of this was some sort of nitrogen chamber in lieu of a cold tank, which players use after a game instead of an ice bath. These chambers are not cheap in the least, and used without the necessary precautions, can actually be quite dangerous.
They also heavily rely on goniometers to measure joint flexibility and detect possible issues early, with respect to how injuries might affect how players' favor other parts of their body to compensate.
In all fairness, if these things explained even half of their success, I can't imagine why they wouldn't be standard practice for the rest of the league (excluding the usual bottom feeders, of course). In fact, I suspect most are.
Other posters have mentioned PHO's desert climate as a plausible reason as well. And if course there's always the possibility they've just been exceedingly lucky and overrated as a result. A little bit of everything would not surprise me.
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One example of this was some sort of nitrogen chamber in lieu of a cold tank, which players use after a game instead of an ice bath. These chambers are not cheap in the least, and used without the necessary precautions, can actually be quite dangerous.
They also heavily rely on goniometers to measure joint flexibility and detect possible issues early, with respect to how injuries might affect how players' favor other parts of their body to compensate.
In all fairness, if these things explained even half of their success, I can't imagine why they wouldn't be standard practice for the rest of the league (excluding the usual bottom feeders, of course). In fact, I suspect most are.
Other posters have mentioned PHO's desert climate as a plausible reason as well. And if course there's always the possibility they've just been exceedingly lucky and overrated as a result. A little bit of everything would not surprise me.
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jade_hippo wrote:dice wrote:i'd like to see a study of games missed due to injury by medical staff
when did the suns staff start getting all this praise? was it mostly grant hill related? and has their staff actually been a constant personnel-wise over the years?
Same guy has been in charge almost 15 years. Nixon or something like that.
They've had a few miracle cases: J Oneal, Shaq, Redd, Nash and a few others I'm forgetting
Oddly I think the Spurs are a more healthy team over the reign of the miracle workers in PHO.
Close, it's Aaron Nelson.
I wonder how many head trainers could we actually name without naming your own teams? Not very many I'd say...
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Mats272-GOAT wrote:jade_hippo wrote:dice wrote:i'd like to see a study of games missed due to injury by medical staff
when did the suns staff start getting all this praise? was it mostly grant hill related? and has their staff actually been a constant personnel-wise over the years?
Same guy has been in charge almost 15 years. Nixon or something like that.
They've had a few miracle cases: J Oneal, Shaq, Redd, Nash and a few others I'm forgetting
Oddly I think the Spurs are a more healthy team over the reign of the miracle workers in PHO.
Close, it's Aaron Nelson.
I wonder how many head trainers could we actually name without naming your own teams? Not very many I'd say...
dang, was close. He was mentioned several times in a sports medicine class I took and all the stress he puts on flexibility and cryo-therapy in injury prevention. Was like 7 years ago, so a tad fuzzy
on an aside, they made it sound like one of the reasons Shaq didn't want to stay in Phoenix was them wanting him to always be in great shape where he preferred to let himself go and slowly play into shape as the season wore on.
*edit* Drew Cleary in Washington is the only trainer I can name besides my own team.
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Frank Mulely wrote:Inevitable wrote:Bill Simmons thinks it's PEDs
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2013/ ... s-cheating
That's Simmons explanation for everything.
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The "secret" is that the suns medical staff do evaluations on the players EVERYDAY!
They look for any deviations from normal alignment, range of motion, functional ability etc and then prescribe treatment and exercises to correct them in order to reduce or prevent injury. They take a very proactive approach to the health of their players.
It's likely seen as overkill by most people, but you need to do it if you want to prevent injury.
video about NASM but they interview Grant Hill in it who touches on what I mentioned.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT6CL4aPkcE[/youtube]
They look for any deviations from normal alignment, range of motion, functional ability etc and then prescribe treatment and exercises to correct them in order to reduce or prevent injury. They take a very proactive approach to the health of their players.
It's likely seen as overkill by most people, but you need to do it if you want to prevent injury.
video about NASM but they interview Grant Hill in it who touches on what I mentioned.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT6CL4aPkcE[/youtube]
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Really?? People still didnt figured it out?? Its paranomix potion ofc.