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How would that draft look ?

1.Duncan
2.LeBron
3.KG
4.Kobe
5.Durant
6.Wade
7.Dirk
8.Rose
9.Paul
10.Howard
11.Anthony Davis
12.Love
13.Westbrook
14.Griffin

1. It's not the offseason

2. This is just going to start an unnecessary flame war since IMO you can make a case for like 5 guys at #1, and there are so many superstars that are relatively close skill-wise that there's going to be a ton of petty arguments over who should go over who

3. You're sleeping hard on guys like Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Steve Nash, Artest, and even younger guys like Deron Williams.

I'd had Pau Gasol, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Steve Nash at least ahead Love, Westbrook or Griffin.

Mine would probably go something like this:
1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Durant
4. Dirk
5. Kobe
6. KG
7. Davis
8. Howard
9. Wade
10. Paul
11. Howard
12. Curry
13. Love
14. Aldridge
15. Griffin
16. Nash
17. Ray Allen
18. Carter
19. Irving
20. Anthony
21. Amare
22. Bosh
23. Parker
24. Westbrook
25. Marion
26. Harden
27. Noah
28. Jefferson
29. Pau Gasol
30. Wall
31. Marc Gasol
32. Cousins
33. Pierce
34. Brand
35. Deng
36. Ellis
37. Jermaine O'neal
38. Elton Brand
39. Rondo
40. Brook Lopez
41. Joe Johnson
42. Hayward
43. Z-bo
44. Deron Williams
45. Klay Thompson
46. Jason Richardson
47. Lewis
48. Jeff Green
49. Tyson Chandler
50. Dragic
51. Drummond
52. Odom
53. Horford
54. Ginobili
55. Horford
56. Ibaka
57. Kenyon Martin
58. Ryan Anderson
59. Iguodala
60. Boozer

This list is assuming that you draft each player young and you knowing/predicting how their careers panned or will pan out. The list would change if you meant one season peak (I would definitely include Rose, lol)

Matrix is borderline top 15 as well. I'll go by peaks since "prime" can be kinda subjective. Also not gonna pick anyone whose prime has yet to actually happen.

Umm...top 10 for me...

1. LeBron
2. Duncan
3. Wade
4. Durant
5. Garnett
6. Kobe
7. Dwight
8. CP3
9. Pierce
10. VC

Not sure where to put Dirk but obviously he's in there.
Melo's another guy we've forgotten about. Definitely not top 10 but impossible to leave him out of top 20.

lebron then duncan
then everyone else.

imagine if those two were on the same team in from 23-33, it would be like a decapeat.

lebron needs to come to the warriors after next season.
curry
klay
iggy
lebron
bogut

game over. i dont think its possible after the bogut extension or the iggy signing though.

Chamilitary Man wrote:
3. You're sleeping hard on guys like Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Steve Nash, Artest, and even younger guys like Deron Williams.

This is evident by how low Kobe is on most of these lists.

just wow.

My top 25 (italics = assuming they reach realistic expectations):

1a. Lebron
1b. Duncan
3. KG
4. Kobe
5. Dirk
6. Durant
7. Wade
8. Nash
9. Howard
10. Davis
11. Paul
12. Pierce
13. Curry
14. Allen
15. Griffin
16. Pau
17. Manu
18. Love
19. Billups
20. Carter
21. Westbrook
22. Melo
23. Harden
24. Parker
25. Brand

This can help for veteran players:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... ctive.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... ctive.html

excision wrote:19. Irving
20. Anthony
21. Amare
22. Bosh
23. Parker
28. Jefferson
29. Pau Gasol
33. Pierce
35. Deng
54. Ginobili

Oh, wow.

Chamilitary Man wrote:1. It's not the offseason

2. This is just going to start an unnecessary flame war since IMO you can make a case for like 5 guys at #1, and there are so many superstars that are relatively close skill-wise that there's going to be a ton of petty arguments over who should go over who

3. You're sleeping hard on guys like Jermaine O'Neal, Elton Brand, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Steve Nash, Artest, and even younger guys like Deron Williams.

Lol I forgot Steve Nash was even in the league but he belongs on that list. Between Pierce, Allen, and Carter I might choose one of them.

Derrick Rose? His prime is playing cheerleader, sitting at the end of the bench.

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:Derrick Rose? His prime is playing cheerleader, sitting at the end of the bench.

his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:Derrick Rose? His prime is playing cheerleader, sitting at the end of the bench.

his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

It's called a joke. Do you know what a "sense of humor" is?

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:Derrick Rose? His prime is playing cheerleader, sitting at the end of the bench.

his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

It's called a joke. Do you know what a "sense of humor" is?

Worst joke ever.

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:Derrick Rose? His prime is playing cheerleader, sitting at the end of the bench.

his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

It's called a joke. Do you know what a "sense of humor" is?

hey good joke. You come up with that one all on your own?

rizkid92 wrote:

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

It's called a joke. Do you know what a "sense of humor" is?

hey good joke. You come up with that one all on your own?

No. Got some help from my friends. It took us hours to even think about the way to start the joke, and even as much as 2 days just to think of the closer.
I'll try harder next time. Obviously the laughter of strangers online is important.

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:I'll try harder next time. Obviously the laughter of strangers online is important.

You should. 2/10 at best

Prime VC getting criminally underrated

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:Derrick Rose? His prime is playing cheerleader, sitting at the end of the bench.

his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

He wasn't even a top 5 player that season. He won it because the Bulls were the best team

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:Derrick Rose? His prime is playing cheerleader, sitting at the end of the bench.

his prime is league MVP, do you know what "prime" means?

He wasn't even a top 5 player that season. He won it because the Bulls were the best team

HIs prime is MVP, because he won MVP.

do you understand this concept?