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Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:39 am
by RnB
Looking back at the 2012 draft it's sometimes easy to forget that MKG was picked #2. He had a promising rookie year and many of us expected him to expand his game and to take it to another level come his second year in the league. Can anyone who's been following him or the Hornets, shed some light on his development, factors that have led to a decrease in production during his sophomore season and your future outlook on him?

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I had the highest hopes in the world for him (still do really), but my expectations seem to have simmered down from 2 years ago. I know he fractured his hand around November-December of 2013 and honestly, that's the last I've heard of him. His lauded work ethic, motor, defense and winners mentality we're some of his biggest strengths coming into the league but he still hasn't sorted out his jump shot nor does he look all too assertive taking charge on offense.

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Is it a bad fit for him in Charlotte? Does he just need more time to bed in? Is his future still as bright as it was in 2012?

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:41 am
by CB-Blazer
I think he is just a bad fit in Charoltte, they do not know how to develop players IMO.

Send him to the Spurs and he would be an All-Star in the next few years.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:54 am
by R U Legit
His offense wasn't the reason he was drafted 2nd overall

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:56 am
by orphicwhip
I watched a lot of Charlotte games and they simply don't play him enough.He has the potential to be a terror. They yank him from games completely randomly, play him for an entire half and then bench him in the 4th quarter. He has the potential to be the best wing defender and rebounder in the league. His offense is coming along but he has problems disappearing on that end and not staying aggressive.

The PPG difference can be easily explained through less minutes and less games played. He more than 200 less shots this season because of that.

As of right now, besides Clifford, he's the biggest reason in Charlotte's defensive improvements. His jumper is better than it was last season but that isn't saying much at all and when aggressive I've seen him attack the rim with reckless abandon.

Biggest hope for him is that he plays 34MPG next season, I don't think people will question his abilities too much if that happens. If he's already averaging 11 & 8 per 36 I don't really have any worries about his future.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:08 am
by LloydFree
R U Legit wrote:His offense wasn't the reason he was drafted 2nd overall


No, MGK was drafted #2 because Charlotte's GM is an idiot, apparently.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:08 am
by MoneyTalks41890
R U Legit wrote:His offense wasn't the reason he was drafted 2nd overall


You don't draft a guy two overall to play one side of the ball.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:09 am
by neiiru_3
He sucks. Defense is suppose to be his forte, but he's overrated when it comes to that. I guess what he has is being a very good athlete...ok. He's not going to live up to that #2 pick.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:19 am
by DoubleLintendre
Looking from afar, I don't think he'll ever live up to being the second pick, though he has the potential to be an amazing defender, rebounder, and hustle player. Thinking he will become a prototypical role player type in a few years. I see him developing some sort of slashing game. His jump shot form is something else.

Remember the guy is very young, has a great motor, and is very coachable.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:31 am
by Illmatic12
Man, he has to do something about this:

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:lol: I can't imagine anyone with that form EVER becoming a good shooter. If your form is that bad at age 20 (after 15+ years of playing bball), there is something fundamentally wrong with your body's motor ability/proprioception as it pertains to shooting a basketball.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:45 am
by Chriscross
Illmatic12 wrote:Man, he has to do something about this:

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:lol: I can't imagine anyone with that form EVER becoming a good shooter. If your form is that bad at age 20 (after 15+ years of playing bball), there is something fundamentally wrong with your body's motor ability/proprioception as it pertains to shooting a basketball.


I cannot imagine that being comfortable :lol:

But even if he never develops a shot jump, I think he is still a good rotation guy. Love his defense and can finish at the rim.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 4:27 am
by GoBobs
He needs to commit to a new form with his jumper. One thing the fans have heard is they wanted to start working only on his feet being square during the season. The arm movement is susposed to change over the summer. He knows he needs to work on his shot. Being that MKG is a young guy there is time.

On the other end he is already very good and thats why he gets the minutes that he does. I can tell Clifford is itching to surround Al Jefferson with shoters on the wing. If I was the coach MKG would never come out of the game. His energy and agression are contagious.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:27 am
by Buckeye-NBAFan
CB-Blazer wrote:I think he is just a bad fit in Charoltte, they do not know how to develop players IMO.

Send him to the Spurs and he would be an All-Star in the next few years.


Leonard is better than Kidd-Gilchrist and Leonard isn't an all-star in San Antonio. Why would a lesser player be an all-star there?

Shooting is a very important skill for a SF. It's very hard to be a perennial all-star without it. He'll be on the fringe of that all-star level like Gerald Wallace. But it's harder to build a contender with a high paid SF who can't shoot vs a quality shooting SG like Beal. He's better than Waiters, Barnes and Ross though, so it wasn't a terrible pick. But there are 3 guys drafted after him in the top 10 that I'd take over him, which isn't great return for a #2 pick. On the other hand, the #2 pick seems cursed, as he's better than the last 4 #2 picks drafted before him.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 5:35 am
by dunkman04
There was basically a consensus that he was the #2 pick so idk why people are criticizing Charlotte for taking him. Mark Price needs to kidnap MKG, lock him in a gym and do nothing this summer but fix that busted jumper. Bill Cartwright thinks his jumper looks bad.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 6:06 am
by MaceCase
He jumps on his FT attempts.





That is all.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:59 am
by duppyy
Illmatic12 wrote:Man, he has to do something about this:

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:lol: I can't imagine anyone with that form EVER becoming a good shooter. If your form is that bad at age 20 (after 15+ years of playing bball), there is something fundamentally wrong with your body's motor ability/proprioception as it pertains to shooting a basketball.


Not sure if real or photoshopped lol.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:00 am
by big_ticket
Illmatic12 wrote:Man, he has to do something about this:

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:lol: I can't imagine anyone with that form EVER becoming a good shooter. If your form is that bad at age 20 (after 15+ years of playing bball), there is something fundamentally wrong with your body's motor ability/proprioception as it pertains to shooting a basketball.

yikes ugly form :lol:

i had a better shot than him

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuWXxCKUuLY[/youtube]

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:42 am
by Jvaughn
CB-Blazer wrote:I think he is just a bad fit in Charoltte, they do not know how to develop players IMO.

Send him to the Spurs and he would be an All-Star in the next few years.


Not a chance in hell. There's not a team in the league that he'd be an all star on. He's a good defender/rebounder, and he has great intensity, so he'll always be a good energy guy. But he's anot atrocious shooter, that doesn't good enough ball skills to get to the basket off the dribble. So he won't be a real offensive weapon.

He should watch some Utah Ronnie Brewer film, and try to pattern his game off of that. Brewer's shot was shaku, but he was able to be effective with his off the ball movement. Used to feist off of baseline movement. Until Price can repair that jumper, that would at least keep defenses honest.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 8:45 am
by homecourtloss
Illmatic12 wrote:Man, he has to do something about this:

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:lol: I can't imagine anyone with that form EVER becoming a good shooter. If your form is that bad at age 20 (after 15+ years of playing bball), there is something fundamentally wrong with your body's motor ability/proprioception as it pertains to shooting a basketball.


Instructional video form right here.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:01 am
by KI-DW-TT-AB
LloydFree wrote:
R U Legit wrote:His offense wasn't the reason he was drafted 2nd overall


No, MGK was drafted #2 because Charlotte's GM is an idiot, apparently.

yea sure now but had they not drafted him everyone would've called them idiots on the draft night.

you know, the Cavs treatment.

Re: Kidd-Gilchrist Sophmore Year + Future?

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:51 am
by dorkestra
I would love him on Philly even still.