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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#41 » by Masterfully » Sun May 29, 2016 11:05 pm

Small issues on Portland. After a lot of scrutiny we show a max cap of about $41 million. And with cap holds about $23 million. I'd be interested to hear how you arrived at $14 million. I know your track record is rock solid.

Here's the worksheet we've been going off:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1428380
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Post#42 » by Smitty731 » Sun May 29, 2016 11:36 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:This really is some great info. I cant truly find it done this well on the major sites.

Definitely bookmarked for future use.


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Post#43 » by Smitty731 » Sun May 29, 2016 11:45 pm

Masterfully wrote:Small issues on Portland. After a lot of scrutiny we show a max cap of about $41 million. And with cap holds about $23 million. I'd be interested to hear how you arrived at $14 million. I know your track record is rock solid.

Here's the worksheet we've been going off:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1428380


I have $47,258,637.00 in guaranteed salaries for Aminu. Connaughton, Davis, Lillard, McCollum, Plumlee and Vonleh

I have $1,749,272.00 in non-guaranteed salaries for Alexander and Montero, who I have Portland keeping to at least start the summer.

I have $1,984,005.00 in "dead" money for Varejao.

So, before Cap Holds that is $50,991,914.00 total.

Then I have Portland retaining Cap Holds (in order to keep FA rights) on Crabbe, Harkless, Henderson, and Leonard at a total of $26,649,850.00.

Add those together and we land at $77,641,764.00 leaving us with $14,358,236.00 in cap space.

I only have the team renouncing Kaman and Roberts, as I don't think there is any interest in either guy for much more than the minimum or leftover cap space after most of FA is done. This is after talking to a lot of different people and getting as good a feel as I can for the situation in Portland.

I could be off on them keeping either Alexander or Montero. And they could certainly renounced Henderson or Leonard. Any of those things would add to Portland's space.

Hope that helps! For what it is worth, it is also broken down on the tab called 2016 Real Space Worksheet.
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#44 » by Smitty731 » Sun May 29, 2016 11:49 pm

Masterfully wrote:Small issues on Portland. After a lot of scrutiny we show a max cap of about $41 million. And with cap holds about $23 million. I'd be interested to hear how you arrived at $14 million. I know your track record is rock solid.

Here's the worksheet we've been going off:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1428380


After looking at that thread, aside from some minor salary differences, it looks like the biggest difference is that I have the team keeping FA rights on Henderson. I have it on really good authority that the team has no intention of renouncing him unless they have to.

As far as the minor salary differences, without trying to sound like a huge dick about it, I can assure you that my numbers are correct and the numbers in the thread are a little off. But that is really minor in the grand scheme of things. :)
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#45 » by gts1 » Sun May 29, 2016 11:51 pm

Great work, lot's of effort... Don't forget to adjust cap holds for 2016 first round draft picks now that the lottery has been drawn
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Post#46 » by Smitty731 » Mon May 30, 2016 12:11 am

gts1 wrote:Great work, lot's of effort... Don't forget to adjust cap holds for 2016 first round draft picks now that the lottery has been drawn


Fortunately nothing changed as far as places in the lottery, so that made it easy. But I was ready!
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#47 » by Scorpion King » Mon May 30, 2016 1:52 am

Great job Smitty. Keep it up.

As you know lot of reporters/players read this forum regularly. Before you know it you will be working at NBA Team.

Have you applied for internship or analytical role at Celtics analytics department ?
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Post#48 » by Hindenburg » Mon May 30, 2016 1:57 am

Lakers have more cap scare than the Sixers? wow...

Wonder who they will spend it on. They don't look interested in DeRozan. Maybe Whiteside and Barnes?
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#49 » by Smitty731 » Mon May 30, 2016 2:04 am

Scorpion King wrote:Great job Smitty. Keep it up.

As you know lot of reporters/players read this forum regularly. Before you know it you will be working at NBA Team.

Have you applied for internship or analytical role at Celtics analytics department ?


Thanks man! I appreciate the kind words.

I actually live in Orlando and the internship route is out due to having a family to care for. But I have made some inroads with teams since I started as a member of the media. The dream is to work for a team, but we'll see what comes of it!
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#50 » by LakersLegacy » Mon May 30, 2016 2:25 am

Awesome job
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#51 » by GopherIt! » Mon May 30, 2016 2:32 am

Great work sham, err shamitty, err shmitty. Ohhh u get the idea.
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Post#52 » by Smitty731 » Mon May 30, 2016 2:33 am

GopherIt! wrote:Great work sham, err shamitty, err shmitty. Ohhh u get the idea.


Ha! Legit LoL. Good one! :lol: Thanks man!
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#53 » by LakersLegacy » Mon May 30, 2016 2:57 am

So the estimated NBA combined cap space figure is $715,543,041.
The NBA combined cap is $2,700,000,000.
The CBA mandates that the each team spend at least 90% of the cap.

So teams like the Lakers and 76ers have to spend at least 90%. My question who is going to get paid if the Lakers $58,059,992 and 76ers $56,256,591 strike out in free agency? Could the Lakers for example give Jordan Clarkson a huge front loaded contract so he gets paid big and the Lakers also have a lot of space to go after the best free agents in 2017? Or do some lucky bench players get rich on 1 year rentals?

Thanks for the answers. I have a somewhat good understanding of the cap, but I'm not informed on how much front loaded contracts are allowed. I like to understand how things work.
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#54 » by 1995 » Mon May 30, 2016 3:16 am

new to all this cap stuff..

so basically we are over the cap 9 mill next year and we can't sign any free agents (other than demar) - unless we trade away players like ross or patterson for future draft picks?

That kinda sucks lol
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#55 » by Masterfully » Mon May 30, 2016 3:21 am

1995 wrote:new to all this cap stuff..

so basically we are over the cap 9 mill next year and we can't sign any free agents (other than demar) - unless we trade away players like ross or patterson for future draft picks?

That kinda sucks lol

I'm not sure what the cap hold on DeRozan is. Let's say it's $15 million. Smitty shows a max cap of $21 million. So, you could go sign a player for $6 million, then resign DeRozan and go over the cap.

And of course, you can always fill out your roster with vet minimum players.
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#56 » by Masterfully » Mon May 30, 2016 3:23 am

Smitty731 wrote:
Masterfully wrote:Small issues on Portland. After a lot of scrutiny we show a max cap of about $41 million. And with cap holds about $23 million. I'd be interested to hear how you arrived at $14 million. I know your track record is rock solid.

Here's the worksheet we've been going off:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1428380


After looking at that thread, aside from some minor salary differences, it looks like the biggest difference is that I have the team keeping FA rights on Henderson. I have it on really good authority that the team has no intention of renouncing him unless they have to.

As far as the minor salary differences, without trying to sound like a huge dick about it, I can assure you that my numbers are correct and the numbers in the thread are a little off. But that is really minor in the grand scheme of things. :)

Yeah, that explains it. Given Portland's awful history of attracting free agents, keeping Henderson is probably about the best we can hope for from free agency. LOL
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#57 » by 1995 » Mon May 30, 2016 3:27 am

Masterfully wrote:
1995 wrote:new to all this cap stuff..

so basically we are over the cap 9 mill next year and we can't sign any free agents (other than demar) - unless we trade away players like ross or patterson for future draft picks?

That kinda sucks lol

I'm not sure what the cap hold on DeRozen is. Let's say it's $15 million. Smitty shows a max cap of $21 million. So, you could go sign a player for $6 million, then resign DeRozen and go over the cap.

And of course, you can always fill out your roster with vet minimum players.


Thanks, did not understand cap hold but now I get it from your example. Still only 6 mill to sign someone yikes.

That ross extension at 10 per is looking pretty awful, hopefully signing carroll at 15 per works out, him saying he was only 75% in the playoffs makes me hopeful
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#58 » by King Ken » Mon May 30, 2016 4:35 am

Hawks:

The Hawks with all our cap holds and the #21 have 85,625,238 which leaves us with 6,374,762 in cap space. How did you get 14plus million.

We aren't waiving Kirk's cap hold. It can be SnT with a pick for a better backup PG if we decide to go that direction.

We plan on resigning Al, Hump and Bazemore. Now this leaves us at 16 men on the roster (rights included) so someone will have to go. more than likely Patterson since he has a non-guaranteed deal.
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#59 » by spaceballer » Mon May 30, 2016 4:41 am

LakersLegacy wrote:So the estimated NBA combined cap space figure is $715,543,041.
The NBA combined cap is $2,700,000,000.
The CBA mandates that the each team spend at least 90% of the cap.

So teams like the Lakers and 76ers have to spend at least 90%. My question who is going to get paid if the Lakers $58,059,992 and 76ers $56,256,591 strike out in free agency? Could the Lakers for example give Jordan Clarkson a huge front loaded contract so he gets paid big and the Lakers also have a lot of space to go after the best free agents in 2017? Or do some lucky bench players get rich on 1 year rentals?

Thanks for the answers. I have a somewhat good understanding of the cap, but I'm not informed on how much front loaded contracts are allowed. I like to understand how things work.


Jordan Clarkson is subject to the Gilbert Arenas Provision, so you can't really front-load a contract for him.

One way to use the extra cap space is that you can average out the cap-hit of a back-loaded "poison-pill" contract, though, so that the back-end doesn't hit as hard. But that's only if the Lakers are the ones making the offer, and not the ones matching a signed offer sheet from a competing team.

Even with "front-loaded" contracts, the annual decline in salary is limited to 4.5% (7.5% if you have full bird rights) of the starting year's salary. So you can't have huge year to year salary differences in "front-loaded" contracts anyway.
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Re: Projected Cap Space Completed for all 30 Teams 

Post#60 » by JesusHCoxMd » Mon May 30, 2016 8:20 am

Smitty731 wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T2Eg_zvqNqQD_5TpE4Ns6xhElatXdLpYG1roZtRLyvE/edit#gid=2099125088

The link above will take you to an updated version of my Salary and Roster sheets. Projected Cap Space has been updated for all 30 teams. Let me know what you think about where I missed!

This is just where I think each team will sit on 7/1 when the League Year changes over. Obviously cap space is fluid and will adjust as moves are made, but this is my guess as each team's starting point.

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