Re: Is Isiash Thomas the best PG in the EAST?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:14 am
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jangles86 wrote:John Wall is the best point guard in the east.
If wall had just one other all star to play with he'd average 13-15 assists. He's the best defensive PG in the league and has somehow led this shambles of a Wizards roster to 23-19 record!
jangles86 wrote:John Wall is the best point guard in the east.
If wall had just one other all star to play with he'd average 13-15 assists. He's the best defensive PG in the league and has somehow led this shambles of a Wizards roster to 23-19 record!
celtics543 wrote:jangles86 wrote:John Wall is the best point guard in the east.
If wall had just one other all star to play with he'd average 13-15 assists. He's the best defensive PG in the league and has somehow led this shambles of a Wizards roster to 23-19 record!
Bradley Beal is averaging 22 points on 45/40/81 percentages. How is that not a star player?
The_Hater wrote:Pennebaker wrote:zronv7 wrote:Putting up historical numbers in the 4th quarter, natural born clutch closer.
33ppg last 10 games on 50% shooting
28/6/3 this year with 27 per
No. The best point guard in the east is LeBron James.
Thomas takes too many shots for someone that's 5'8. That only hurts Boston in the long run, in my opinion. Anytime you're in a situation where your leading scorer is taking 20 shots a game and only shooting 46%.... that's not ideal. Then you see that he's 5'8 or 5'9 and it's even less palatable because the rim is always going to be at least 10 feet high with all sorts of very, very tall dudes defending it.
Considering his TS% is at 61.7% and among the league leaders, the Celtics offense ranks 7th in the league with him leading every important category and they are 3rd overall in the conference, he absolutely does NOT take too many shots. I have no idea what his height has to do with your argument and if you actually think he's inefficient then you're looking at the wrong stats. The ball goes in. Period.
IT's problem is that he's a terrible defensive player. Offensively he's one of the best and most efficient weapons in the entire league.
Pennebaker wrote:The_Hater wrote:
Considering his TS% is at 61.7% and among the league leaders, the Celtics offense ranks 7th in the league with him leading every important category and they are 3rd overall in the conference, he absolutely does NOT take too many shots. I have no idea what his height has to do with your argument and if you actually think he's inefficient then you're looking at the wrong stats. The ball goes in. Period.
IT's problem is that he's a terrible defensive player. Offensively he's one of the best and most efficient weapons in the entire league.
You take the label "True Shooting Percentage" at face value - as if that is indeed his true shooting percentage.
That is what the creators of that stat wanted you to think, so well done!
Thomas augments his poor shooting with a .913 free throw percentage. 2nd in the league. But in my opinion the TS% stat overvalues free throw shooting. It's weighted at .44 per attempt, which is puzzling to me and many others. In other words, is a FTA 44% of a field goal attempt, or is it more accurately understood as 33% of a 3-point attempt? This goes unanswered with TS%.
You have to get around the idea that the label of "true" actually means that it's true in a literal sense. It's just a name.
Pennebaker wrote:The_Hater wrote:Pennebaker wrote:
No. The best point guard in the east is LeBron James.
Thomas takes too many shots for someone that's 5'8. That only hurts Boston in the long run, in my opinion. Anytime you're in a situation where your leading scorer is taking 20 shots a game and only shooting 46%.... that's not ideal. Then you see that he's 5'8 or 5'9 and it's even less palatable because the rim is always going to be at least 10 feet high with all sorts of very, very tall dudes defending it.
Considering his TS% is at 61.7% and among the league leaders, the Celtics offense ranks 7th in the league with him leading every important category and they are 3rd overall in the conference, he absolutely does NOT take too many shots. I have no idea what his height has to do with your argument and if you actually think he's inefficient then you're looking at the wrong stats. The ball goes in. Period.
IT's problem is that he's a terrible defensive player. Offensively he's one of the best and most efficient weapons in the entire league.
You take the label "True Shooting Percentage" at face value - as if that is indeed his true shooting percentage.
That is what the creators of that stat wanted you to think, so well done!
Thomas augments his poor shooting with a .913 free throw percentage. 2nd in the league. But in my opinion the TS% stat overvalues free throw shooting. It's weighted at .44 per attempt, which is puzzling to me and many others. In other words, is a FTA 44% of a field goal attempt, or is it more accurately understood as 33% of a 3-point attempt? This goes unanswered with TS%.
You have to get around the idea that the label of "true" actually means that it's true in a literal sense. It's just a name.
Pennebaker wrote:The_Hater wrote:Pennebaker wrote:
No. The best point guard in the east is LeBron James.
Thomas takes too many shots for someone that's 5'8. That only hurts Boston in the long run, in my opinion. Anytime you're in a situation where your leading scorer is taking 20 shots a game and only shooting 46%.... that's not ideal. Then you see that he's 5'8 or 5'9 and it's even less palatable because the rim is always going to be at least 10 feet high with all sorts of very, very tall dudes defending it.
Considering his TS% is at 61.7% and among the league leaders, the Celtics offense ranks 7th in the league with him leading every important category and they are 3rd overall in the conference, he absolutely does NOT take too many shots. I have no idea what his height has to do with your argument and if you actually think he's inefficient then you're looking at the wrong stats. The ball goes in. Period.
IT's problem is that he's a terrible defensive player. Offensively he's one of the best and most efficient weapons in the entire league.
You take the label "True Shooting Percentage" at face value - as if that is indeed his true shooting percentage.
That is what the creators of that stat wanted you to think, so well done!
Thomas augments his poor shooting with a .913 free throw percentage. 2nd in the league. But in my opinion the TS% stat overvalues free throw shooting. It's weighted at .44 per attempt, which is puzzling to me and many others. In other words, is a FTA 44% of a field goal attempt, or is it more accurately understood as 33% of a 3-point attempt? This goes unanswered with TS%.
You have to get around the idea that the label of "true" actually means that it's true in a literal sense. It's just a name.
Fadeaway_Jumper wrote:It is between him and Lowry for best PG in the east.
Kyrie wouldn't be my first choice to be the face of the franchise,but I've noticed in the playoffs no matter which PG he's matched up against he rountinely out plays them. He destroyed Lowry & mr. MVP steph curry last year on his way to a ring
rasta_marley wrote:I think LeBron playing defence on curry is what got him. Threw curry off his game.
maisenza13 wrote:In this regular season yes
Braggins wrote:Lowry
Wall
Kemba
IT
Kyrie
TopDawg wrote:Regular Season
1 Wall
2 Lowery
3 Kyrie
Playoffs
1. Kyrie
2. Everyone else