PeptoKlepto wrote: bwgood77 wrote:
I mean, I agree it's not gonna happen just because the narrative is too against them this year, and I think Russell Westbrook and James Harden are the top two dogs in the race anyways. I'm just trying to figure what the threshold between "his team is too weak" and "his team is too strong" is that seems to change on a year-by-year basis.
I agree it's ridiculous and the story or narrative too often plays a part, but it is what it is I guess. And you guys have enough good for you I wouldn't be complaining too much at this point.
I've made my peace with this our not winning anything individually this year - but I just don't want it to be held against them moving forward. There's nothing wrong with being on a great team and it shouldn't devalue your position compared to other players.
You also have to remember that there is no precedent for the Warriors situation. While Wade was MVP caliber, he never won one. Steph won twice, KD once. And they're both in their primes - in LeBron's first year Wade might have been a slightly better all around player than Curry is now, but you could easily argue that he was not.
No actual MVP winners have ever been on the same team in their prime, so there's not going to be a comparison. With how the award has transformed to "the best player on the best team", you can see where the Warriors may never win one with their situation. There is no clear cut best player. You can used advanced stats for Curry, but KD's defensive impact is what has launched this team IMO. Without that defensive impact they could have been in a world of hurt this year - I certainly didn't expect KD to try on defense, much less play this well.
Simply put, if you go back to previous years, the most apt comparison is KD and WB, and you can see that both finish with votes, but neither won except for the year WB went down and now maybe this year when KD is gone. When you have two top 5 players, the votes will get split.
Even though there's no consolation for this, I would imagine that the Warriors as a team will get the most MVP votes if you tally up all the players that receive votes.