Danny Ainge as a General Manager (drafts)

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Danny Ainge as a General Manager (drafts) 

Post#1 » by Amsterdam » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:09 pm

What are your overall views for Danny AInge as a GM as it relates to drafts?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/aingeda01x.html

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June 25, 2003: Traded Darius Songaila to the Sacramento Kings for a 2003 2nd round draft pick (Brandon Hunter was later selected) and a 2005 2nd round draft pick (Orien Greene was later selected).

June 26, 2003: Selected Troy Bell (1st round, 16th pick), Dahntay Jones (1st round, 20th pick) and Brandon Hunter (2nd round, 56th pick) in the 2003 NBA Draft.

June 26, 2003: Traded Troy Bell and Dahntay Jones to the Memphis Grizzlies for Marcus Banks and Kendrick Perkins.

July 25, 2003: Signed Mike James as a free agent.

July 29, 2003: Traded J.R. Bremer, Bruno Sundov and a 2005 2nd round draft pick (Ryan Gomes was later selected) to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Jumaine Jones.

October 20, 2003: Traded Tony Delk and Antoine Walker to the Dallas Mavericks for Raef LaFrentz, Chris Mills, Jiri Welsch and a 2004 1st round draft pick (Delonte West was later selected).

December 15, 2003: Traded Tony Battie, Kedrick Brown and Eric Williams to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Ricky Davis, Chris Mihm, Michael Stewart and a 2005 2nd round draft pick (Ryan Gomes was later selected).

February 19, 2004: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded Mike James to the Detroit Pistons; the Boston Celtics traded Chris Mills to the Atlanta Hawks; the Atlanta Hawks traded Rasheed Wallace to the Detroit Pistons; the Detroit Pistons traded Zeljko Rebraca, Bob Sura and a 2004 1st round draft pick (Josh Smith was later selected) to the Atlanta Hawks; and the Detroit Pistons traded Chucky Atkins, Lindsey Hunter and a 2004 1st round draft pick (Tony Allen was later selected) to the Boston Celtics.

April 29, 2004: Hired Doc Rivers as Head Coach.

June 24, 2004: Selected Al Jefferson (1st round, 15th pick), Delonte West (1st round, 24th pick), Tony Allen (1st round, 25th pick) and Justin Reed (2nd round, 40th pick) in the 2004 NBA Draft.

August 6, 2004: Traded Chucky Atkins, Jumaine Jones and Chris Mihm to the Los Angeles Lakers for Rick Fox, Gary Payton and a 2006 1st round draft pick (Rajon Rondo was later selected).

August 14, 2004: Signed Dana Barros as a free agent.

August 16, 2004: Signed Tom Gugliotta as a free agent.

February 8, 2005: Traded Walter McCarty to the Phoenix Suns for a 2007 2nd round draft pick (Aaron Gray was later selected).

February 24, 2005: Traded Tom Gugliotta, Gary Payton, Michael Stewart and a 2006 1st round draft pick (Rajon Rondo was later selected) to the Atlanta Hawks for Antoine Walker.

February 24, 2005: Traded Jiri Welsch to the Cleveland Cavaliers for a 2007 1st round draft pick (Rudy Fernandez was later selected).

March 4, 2005: Signed Gary Payton as a free agent.

June 28, 2005: Selected Gerald Green (1st round, 18th pick), Ryan Gomes (2nd round, 50th pick) and Orien Greene (2nd round, 53rd pick) in the 2005 NBA Draft.

August 2, 2005: As part of a 5-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded Antoine Walker to the Miami Heat; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Andre Emmett, James Posey and Jason Williams to the Miami Heat; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Greg Ostertag to the Utah Jazz; the Miami Heat traded Albert Miralles, Qyntel Woods, a 2006 2nd round draft pick (Edin Bavcic was later selected) and a 2008 2nd round draft pick (Nikola Pekovic was later selected) to the Boston Celtics; the Miami Heat traded Eddie Jones to the Memphis Grizzlies; the Miami Heat traded Rasual Butler to the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets; the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets traded Roberto Duenas to the Miami Heat; the Utah Jazz traded Curtis Borchardt to the Boston Celtics; the Utah Jazz traded Raul Lopez to the Memphis Grizzlies; and the Utah Jazz traded Kirk Snyder to the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets.

August 2, 2005: Signed Brian Scalabrine as a free agent.

August 19, 2005: Signed Will Bynum as a free agent.

August 26, 2005: Signed Dwayne Jones as a free agent.

September 30, 2005: Traded a 2006 2nd round draft pick (Edin Bavcic was later selected) to the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets for Dan Dickau.

January 26, 2006: Traded Marcus Banks, Mark Blount, Ricky Davis, Justin Reed, a 2006 2nd round draft pick (Craig Smith was later selected) and a 2008 2nd round draft pick (Nikola Pekovic was later selected) to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Dwayne Jones, Michael Olowokandi, Wally Szczerbiak and a 2009 1st round draft pick (Jonny Flynn was later selected).

June 28, 2006: Selected Randy Foye (1st round, 7th pick) in the 2006 NBA Draft.

June 28, 2006: Traded a 2007 1st round draft pick (Rudy Fernandez was later selected) to the Phoenix Suns for Brian Grant and Rajon Rondo.

June 28, 2006: Traded a 2007 2nd round draft pick (Aaron Gray was later selected) to the Denver Nuggets for Leon Powe.

June 28, 2006: Traded Dan Dickau, Randy Foye and Raef LaFrentz to the Portland Trail Blazers for Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair and a 2008 2nd round draft pick (Trent Plaisted was later selected).

July 6, 2006: Signed Allan Ray as a free agent.

October 13, 2006: Traded Dwayne Jones to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Luke Jackson and cash. Cleveland also received a trade exception from Boston.

April 4, 2007: Signed Kevinn Pinkney to a 10-day contract.

June 28, 2007: Selected Jeff Green (1st round, 5th pick) and Gabe Pruitt (2nd round, 32nd pick) in the 2007 NBA Draft.

June 28, 2007: Traded Jeff Green, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West and a 2008 2nd round draft pick (Trent Plaisted was later selected) to the Seattle SuperSonics for Ray Allen and Glen Davis.

July 31, 2007: Traded Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair, a 2009 1st round draft pick (Wayne Ellington was later selected) and a 2009 1st round draft pick (Jonny Flynn was later selected) to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Kevin Garnett.

August 1, 2007: Signed Eddie House as a free agent.

August 6, 2007: Signed Scot Pollard as a free agent.

August 27, 2007: Signed James Posey as a free agent.

September 27, 2007: Signed Dahntay Jones as a free agent.

February 27, 2008: Signed P.J. Brown as a free agent.

March 3, 2008: Signed Sam Cassell as a free agent.

June 26, 2008: Selected J.R. Giddens (1st round, 30th pick) and Semih Erden (2nd round, 60th pick) in the 2008 NBA Draft.

June 26, 2008: Purchased Bill Walker from the Washington Wizards.

July 16, 2008: Signed Patrick O'Bryant as a free agent.

August 22, 2008: Signed Darius Miles as a free agent.

February 17, 2009: Traded Sam Cassell to the Sacramento Kings for a 2015 2nd round draft pick.

February 19, 2009: Traded Patrick O'Bryant to the Toronto Raptors for a 2014 2nd round draft pick.

February 24, 2009: Signed Mikki Moore as a free agent.

February 27, 2009: Signed Stephon Marbury as a free agent.

June 25, 2009: Selected Lester Hudson (2nd round, 58th pick) in the 2009 NBA Draft.

July 8, 2009: Signed Rasheed Wallace as a free agent.

August 8, 2009: Signed Shelden Williams as a free agent.

September 2, 2009: Signed Marquis Daniels as a free agent.

February 18, 2010: Traded J.R. Giddens, Eddie House, Bill Walker and a 2014 2nd round draft pick to the New York Knicks for Marcus Landry and Nate Robinson.

March 6, 2010: Signed Michael Finley to a contract for the rest of the season.

April 13, 2010: Signed Oliver Lafayette to a contract for the rest of the season.

June 24, 2010: Selected Avery Bradley (1st round, 19th pick) and Luke Harangody (2nd round, 52nd pick) in the 2010 NBA Draft.

July 10, 2010: Signed Jermaine O'Neal as a free agent.

August 3, 2010: Signed Von Wafer as a free agent.

August 4, 2010: Signed Shaquille O'Neal as a free agent.

September 1, 2010: Signed Delonte West as a free agent.

October 6, 2010: Signed Mario West as a free agent.

February 24, 2011: Traded Semih Erden and Luke Harangody to the Cleveland Cavaliers for a 2013 2nd round draft pick (Jeff Withey was later selected).

February 24, 2011: Traded Kendrick Perkins and Nate Robinson to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Jeff Green, Nenad Krstic, cash and a 2012 1st round draft pick (Fab Melo was later selected).

February 24, 2011: Traded Marquis Daniels and cash to the Sacramento Kings for a 2017 2nd round draft pick.

February 24, 2011: Signed Chris Johnson to a 10-day contract.

March 2, 2011: Signed Troy Murphy as a free agent.

March 3, 2011: Signed Sasha Pavlovic as a free agent.

March 6, 2011: Signed Carlos Arroyo as a free agent.

June 23, 2011: Selected MarShon Brooks (1st round, 25th pick) and E'Twaun Moore (2nd round, 55th pick) in the 2011 NBA Draft.

June 23, 2011: Traded MarShon Brooks to the New Jersey Nets for JaJuan Johnson and a 2014 2nd round draft pick.

December 9, 2011: Signed Marquis Daniels as a free agent.

December 9, 2011: Signed Chris Wilcox as a free agent.

December 9, 2011: Traded Albert Miralles to the Milwaukee Bucks for Keyon Dooling and a 2013 2nd round draft pick. Boston did not receive the 2nd round draft pick from Milwaukee because it was top 44 protected.

December 9, 2011: Signed Greg Stiemsma as a free agent.

December 12, 2011: Signed Mike Sweetney as a free agent.

December 12, 2011: Traded Glen Davis and Von Wafer to the Orlando Magic for Brandon Bass.

December 12, 2011: Signed Jamal Sampson as a free agent.

December 24, 2011: Signed Mickael Pietrus as a free agent.

March 23, 2012: Signed Ryan Hollins as a free agent.

April 19, 2012: Signed Sean Williams as a free agent.

June 28, 2012: Selected Jared Sullinger (1st round, 21st pick), Fab Melo (1st round, 22nd pick) and Kris Joseph (2nd round, 51st pick) in the 2012 NBA Draft.

July 14, 2012: Signed Chris Wilcox as a free agent.

July 18, 2012: Signed Jason Terry as a free agent.

July 20, 2012: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded Sasha Pavlovic to the Portland Trail Blazers; the Boston Celtics traded JaJuan Johnson, E'Twaun Moore, Sean Williams and a 2013 2nd round draft pick (Alex Abrines was later selected) to the Houston Rockets; the Houston Rockets traded Courtney Lee to the Boston Celtics; and the Portland Trail Blazers traded Jon Diebler to the Houston Rockets.

July 31, 2012: Signed Jason Collins as a free agent.

September 28, 2012: Signed Rob Kurz as a free agent.

September 28, 2012: Signed Darko Milicic as a free agent.

October 18, 2012: Signed Leandro Barbosa as a free agent.

December 24, 2012: Signed Jarvis Varnado as a free agent.

February 20, 2013: Signed Terrence Williams to a 10-day contract, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.

February 21, 2013: Traded Leandro Barbosa and Jason Collins to the Washington Wizards for Jordan Crawford.

February 28, 2013: Signed D.J. White to two 10-day contracts, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.

March 1, 2013: Signed Shavlik Randolph to two 10-day contracts, then signed to a contract for the rest of the season.

June 25, 2013: Traded Doc Rivers (coach) to the Los Angeles Clippers for a 2015 1st round draft pick (R.J. Hunter was later selected).

June 27, 2013: Selected Lucas Nogueira (1st round, 16th pick) in the 2013 NBA Draft.

June 27, 2013: Traded Lucas Nogueira, a 2014 2nd round draft pick (Cleanthony Early was later selected) and a 2014 2nd round draft pick (Russ Smith was later selected) to the Dallas Mavericks for Kelly Olynyk.

June 27, 2013: Traded cash to the Indiana Pacers for Colton Iverson.

July 3, 2013: Hired Brad Stevens as Head Coach.

July 7, 2013: Signed Kelly Olynyk.

July 12, 2013: Traded Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Jason Terry and D.J. White to the Brooklyn Nets for Keith Bogans, MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries, Kris Joseph, Gerald Wallace, a 2014 1st round draft pick (James Young was later selected), a 2016 1st round draft pick (Jaylen Brown was later selected) and a 2018 1st round draft pick. Boston has the option to swap 1st round draft picks with Brooklyn in 2017.

July 18, 2013: Signed Vitor Faverani.

July 22, 2013: Signed Phil Pressey.

August 15, 2013: Traded Fab Melo and cash to the Memphis Grizzlies for Donte Greene.

January 7, 2014: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded Courtney Lee and a 2016 2nd round draft pick to the Memphis Grizzlies; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Jerryd Bayless to the Boston Celtics; the Memphis Grizzlies traded a 2014 2nd round draft pick and a 2017 2nd round draft pick to the Oklahoma City Thunder; the Oklahoma City Thunder traded Ryan Gomes to the Boston Celtics; and the Oklahoma City Thunder traded cash to the Memphis Grizzlies. (2014 2nd-rd pick was top-50 and 56-60 protected and was not conveyed) (2017 2nd-rd pick is top-35 protected in 2017 & unprotected in 2018)

January 15, 2014: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded MarShon Brooks and Jordan Crawford to the Golden State Warriors; the Golden State Warriors traded Toney Douglas to the Miami Heat; and the Miami Heat traded Joel Anthony, cash, a 2015 2nd round draft pick (Jordan Mickey was later selected), a 2016 2nd round draft pick (Ben Bentil was later selected) and a 2016 2nd round draft pick (Deyonta Davis was later selected) to the Boston Celtics.

January 16, 2014: Signed Chris Johnson to a 10-day contract.

February 7, 2014: Signed Chris Johnson to a contract for the rest of the season.

February 28, 2014: Signed Chris Babb to a 10-day contract.

March 21, 2014: Signed Chris Babb to a contract for the rest of the season.

June 26, 2014: Selected Marcus Smart (1st round, 6th pick) and James Young (1st round, 17th pick) in the 2014 NBA Draft.

July 10, 2014: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded a future 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers; the Brooklyn Nets traded Marcus Thornton to the Boston Celtics; the Cleveland Cavaliers traded Tyler Zeller and a future 1st round draft pick to the Boston Celtics; and the Cleveland Cavaliers traded Jarrett Jack and Sergey Karasev to the Brooklyn Nets. (Boston's acquired 1st-round pick is protected from 2016-2018, unprotected in 2019. Cleveland also receives draft rights to Ilkan Karaman, Christian Drejer, and Edin Bavcic from Brooklyn.)

July 19, 2014: Traded Kris Humphries to the Washington Wizards for a trade exception and a 2015 2nd round draft pick. (Boston's acquired 2015 2nd-round pick was protected and not conveyed.)

September 25, 2014: Traded Keith Bogans, a 2015 2nd round draft pick and a 2017 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for John Lucas III, Erik Murphy, Dwight Powell, Malcolm Thomas, a 2016 2nd round draft pick and a 2017 2nd round draft pick. (Cleveland's acquired draft picks are top-55 protected.)

September 28, 2014: Signed Tim Frazier.

September 29, 2014: Signed Evan Turner as a free agent.

September 29, 2014: Signed Rodney McGruder.

September 29, 2014: Signed Christian Watford.

October 17, 2014: Traded Joel Anthony to the Detroit Pistons for Will Bynum.

December 18, 2014: Traded Dwight Powell and Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks for Jae Crowder, Jameer Nelson, Brandan Wright, a 2016 1st round draft pick and a 2016 2nd round draft pick. (Boston also receives $13M trade exception.)

January 9, 2015: Traded Brandan Wright to the Phoenix Suns for a 2015 1st round draft pick (MIN 1st-Rd Pick was later selected). (The 1st round pick is top-12 protected in both 2015 and 2016. If the pick is still held in 2017 it will become two 2nd-round picks.)

January 12, 2015: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded Jeff Green to the Memphis Grizzlies; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Tayshaun Prince and a future 1st round draft pick to the Boston Celtics; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Quincy Pondexter and a 2015 2nd round draft pick (Branden Dawson was later selected) to the New Orleans Pelicans; the New Orleans Pelicans traded Austin Rivers to the Boston Celtics; and the New Orleans Pelicans traded Russ Smith to the Memphis Grizzlies. (Memphis will receive a traded player exception.)

January 13, 2015: Traded Jameer Nelson to the Denver Nuggets for Nate Robinson.

January 15, 2015: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded Austin Rivers to the Los Angeles Clippers; the Los Angeles Clippers traded Chris Douglas-Roberts and a 2017 2nd round draft pick to the Boston Celtics; the Los Angeles Clippers traded Reggie Bullock to the Phoenix Suns; and the Phoenix Suns traded Shavlik Randolph to the Boston Celtics.

January 23, 2015: Signed Andre Dawkins to a 10-day contract.

February 19, 2015: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded Marcus Thornton and a 2016 1st round draft pick to the Phoenix Suns; the Boston Celtics traded Tayshaun Prince to the Detroit Pistons; the Detroit Pistons traded Gigi Datome and Jonas Jerebko to the Boston Celtics; and the Phoenix Suns traded Isaiah Thomas to the Boston Celtics. (PHO 2016 1st round pick received from BOS is CLE's pick and is top-10 protected.)

June 25, 2015: Selected Terry Rozier (1st round, 16th pick), R.J. Hunter (1st round, 28th pick), Jordan Mickey (2nd round, 33rd pick) and Marcus Thornton (2nd round, 45th pick) in the 2015 NBA Draft.

July 9, 2015: Traded Chris Babb and Gerald Wallace to the Golden State Warriors for David Lee.

July 14, 2015: Traded cash to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Perry Jones, cash and a 2019 2nd round draft pick. (2nd round pick to the Thunder is conditional)

July 27, 2015: Traded a 2019 2nd round draft pick to the Miami Heat for Zoran Dragic and a 2020 2nd round draft pick. (Protected pick)

August 6, 2015: Signed Malcolm Miller.

August 12, 2015: Signed Levi Randolph.

August 20, 2015: Signed Coty Clarke.

March 7, 2016: Signed Coty Clarke to a 10-day contract.

June 23, 2016: Selected Jaylen Brown (1st round, 3rd pick), Guerschon Yabusele (1st round, 16th pick), Ante Zizic (1st round, 23rd pick), Deyonta Davis (2nd round, 31st pick), Rade Zagorac (2nd round, 35th pick), Demetrius Jackson (2nd round, 45th pick), Ben Bentil (2nd round, 51st pick) and Abdel Nader (2nd round, 58th pick) in the 2016 NBA Draft.

June 23, 2016: Traded Deyonta Davis and Rade Zagorac to the Memphis Grizzlies for a 2019 1st round draft pick. 2019 1st-rd pick is protected pick from LAC

July 27, 2016: Signed Gerald Green.

August 17, 2016: Signed Marcus Georges-Hunt.

September 16, 2016: Signed Jalen Jones.

September 16, 2016: Signed Damion Lee.

October 21, 2016: Signed Ryan Kelly.
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#2 » by Boston34Bg » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:12 pm

Impressive that you put in the work. No idea what the point of this is? To evaluate Ainge?
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Post#3 » by K_chile22 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:13 pm

That Brooklyn trade was a masterpiece, but everything since is kinda meh. No one knew It would be this so it's hard to give him too much credit there, and he seems too attached to his assets, as the rumor is the hang up between they and the Magic for Ibaka was Terry freaking Rozier
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#4 » by SanDavid » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:15 pm

How many of these threads do we need? Danny made some amazing moves, and he's drafted some bust. What more is there to it?
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#5 » by heatwillbeback » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:22 pm

Wonderful at collecting assets.

Now do something with them.
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#6 » by Triple M » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:23 pm

i disagree that ainge has been meh since the brooklyn trade.

if you are solely talking about his drafting then i could see your point but would also point out his recent selections are from finished projects
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#7 » by Childs » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:33 pm

He's a solid GM. Getting Thomas, taking advantage of the mentally incapable.
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Post#8 » by Stadium5 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:33 pm

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Post#9 » by sportfan6197 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:33 pm

K_chile22 wrote:That Brooklyn trade was a masterpiece, but everything since is kinda meh. No one knew It would be this so it's hard to give him too much credit there, and he seems too attached to his assets, as the rumor is the hang up between they and the Magic for Ibaka was Terry freaking Rozier

lol what?

That Isiah Thomas/Jerebko for a late first trade, trading expiring Jeff Green for a Memphis first in 2019, Bae Crowder (plus his extension) for Rondo pre-eruption, bringing in Turner, taking the heat of selecting Jaylen (with it paying off so far). Several quality moves.

People say why hasn't he cashed in yet, if he did that Brooklyn 2017 pick which is now the league's most valuable asset would have been a throw in for a trade involving Justise Winslow lol. He held out on his assests banking on Brooklyn sucking and it's worked out great. He's built a top 10 team with cap flexibility and two top 5 picks coming up
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#10 » by Gerald3Wallace » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:39 pm

don't they got Clippers 2018 or 2019 1st round draft pick also?
If Doc blow it up, that could turn into a lottery pick.
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#11 » by bwgood77 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:40 pm

As for drafts, he's not good, though Rondo was a good pick. He's better at trading draft picks for players like Ray Allen and IT. So he should deal as much as possible.

Putting together the big 3, then trading two for the Brooklyn picks and the IT trade were all such great moves that I can't see how you can hold too much against him though.
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Post#12 » by reggielewis » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:43 pm

I don't even remember half of those trades but the one consistent thing with Ainge is that his move at the time may seem stupid, but he always has a counter move somewhere down the line. He also is not afraid to take risks and make moves that others stay away from. He has a lot of trust from Celtic ownership in that regard.
Also, not trading Ibaka for Terry Rozier and a first was not dumb for the Celtics. Why make that trade for someone that you probably aren't planning to pay this summer? Would Ibaka make us a better? Maybe? Does he put us over the top? No. Terry Rozier has been mentioned in other trades for more established players so my guess is he is holding on to him as either a back-up for Avery ( should he be traded or not be fully healthy) or b- as a filler for a trade that makes more long term sense. Terry is still young and is still learning but he has played well for us thus far this season. I am not against trading him but I would prefer is be for an actual piece to the team and not a band aid. Honestly, Rozier reminds me of Bradley in the sense that he was lowly regarded for a few years and took time to come into his own. Bradley is not a star by any means, but he has turned himself into a real player and will either help this team or will be a good piece for a bigger trade. Rozier's ball handling is already better than AB's was his rookie year, and his defense is not on Ab's level, but definitely very solid.
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#13 » by Knickstape1214 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:45 pm

Boston34Bg wrote:Impressive that you put in the work. No idea what the point of this is? To evaluate Ainge?


:lol: He copy and pasted from basketball reference (http://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/aingeda01x.html ).

Anyways, I think he's very good but not great. He put a hell of a number on the Nets, he put together the big 3, signed an awesome young coach, has a great PG (and depth in the backcourt), drafted well with high picks, and has kept contracts in check while signing guys to good deals. Only reason I wouldn't say he's great is he appears to overvalue his assets at times and isn't great drafting outside high picks (lately, at least).

Anyways, I like him a lot and because I know why OP brought this up, I'm going to say that Ainge's track record is miles better than Phillip's currently is and Ainge never gave a player the luxury of having the worst contract in basketball (or tied for worst). :wink:
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#14 » by The_Hater » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:02 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:Wonderful at collecting assets.

Now do something with them.


They're 2nd in the conference. Let's not act like things are broken if he can't pull off a blockbuster.
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#15 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:04 pm

He's been very good from my pov. Has hit alot of HR's. Got Boston another championship with the Ray/KG deals. The Nets trade might go down as one of the most lopsided ever. He's reloaded the right way too, by not completely tanking. Guy is one of the best imo. I might only have guys like R.C. Buford, and Jerry West ranked ahead of him as far as BBall executives go.
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#16 » by The_Hater » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:04 pm

K_chile22 wrote:That Brooklyn trade was a masterpiece, but everything since is kinda meh. No one knew It would be this so it's hard to give him too much credit there, and he seems too attached to his assets, as the rumor is the hang up between they and the Magic for Ibaka was Terry freaking Rozier


Everything else? Really?
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#17 » by TheDavinciCHODE » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:07 pm

Honestly, Ainge isn't that good.

This is the NBA. If you don't nail each and every draft pick, carefully selecting each pick by perfectly predicting which one will pan out to be a superstar, then you aren't any good.

If you don't win every trade, packaging minor assets to collect a superstar or trading multiple long-term salaried vets for young up and coming stars, then you are sub par at your job.

You've got to win every trade, draft every hall of famer outside of the lottery, turn aging vets into young studs and turn young potential into established stars.

In terms of getting good value in trades, drafting well for their position, accumulating assets, and putting a good product on the floor each night, Danny Ainge is a good GM. In terms of what idiots on real gm want, he's pretty much meh.
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#18 » by Kurosawa0 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:13 pm

His team has missed the playoffs once in what? A decade? He made smart trades and made a quick rebuild without using his best assets.

Ask yourself this, if I told you after the 2010 Finals that one of the Lakers and the Celtics in 2017 would be one of the worst teams in the league and the other would win 50+ games, which one would you have picked to be which? There's your answer.
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Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#19 » by heatwillbeback » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:18 pm

The_Hater wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:Wonderful at collecting assets.

Now do something with them.


They're 2nd in the conference. Let's not act like things are broken if he can't pull off a blockbuster.


Being close is all the more reason to pull the trigger on Boggie or Butler or another big name.

He is a good GM, but there is no reason why there should be a third overall pick from last year barely playing on a contending team. There has to be the exchange from future assets into current assets.
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Re: RE: Re: Danny Ainge as a General Manager 

Post#20 » by K_chile22 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:18 pm

The_Hater wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:That Brooklyn trade was a masterpiece, but everything since is kinda meh. No one knew It would be this so it's hard to give him too much credit there, and he seems too attached to his assets, as the rumor is the hang up between they and the Magic for Ibaka was Terry freaking Rozier


Everything else? Really?

Admittedly forgot about the Rondo haul

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