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Dupp wrote:Also double t is so good at switching and guarding the perimeter. He's so mobile.Its so valuable, especially against the warriors. More so than if he was a good rim protector.. The job he did on curry in last years finals was amazing.
LookToShoot wrote:Dupp wrote:Also double t is so good at switching and guarding the perimeter. He's so mobile.Its so valuable, especially against the warriors. More so than if he was a good rim protector.. The job he did on curry in last years finals was amazing.
But, LeBron takes him for granted. LeBron's defense last night was lazy.
76ciology wrote:Cyrusman122000 wrote:I didn't watch the second half.
Can some please explain to me in details what the **** happened? How do you blow a 25 point lead at home?!!!
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Dupp wrote:Pacers scored 14 points in the 2 minutes lebron sat last night. Cavs defensive rating for series is 174.6 with him on the bench.
jbk1234 wrote:''Warchant wrote:jbk1234 wrote:I don't want to hear a single **** word about officiating for the rest of the playoffs. NBA essentially told the Cavs there's no defending during the 1st half. That was the most ridiculous garbage I've seen in many years.
Cavs shot 44 3s and 30 FTs w 23 fouls a piece....whats the problem?
We weren't allowed to defend in 1st half. It was either a bucket or a foul. I've never seen anything like that. The NBA spotted the Pacers 26 points.
Cyrusman122000 wrote:Can someone answer this for me please.
The cavs were a bad defensive team throughout the regular season yet in the second half were very affect on George because they consistently swarmed and doubled teamed him and took the ball out of his hands
Why doesn't Indiana simply do the same to Lebron? Why wouldn't you swarm, blitz, and double him every time? If someone else beats you so be it
10DayContract wrote:Cyrusman122000 wrote:Can someone answer this for me please.
The cavs were a bad defensive team throughout the regular season yet in the second half were very affect on George because they consistently swarmed and doubled teamed him and took the ball out of his hands
Why doesn't Indiana simply do the same to Lebron? Why wouldn't you swarm, blitz, and double him every time? If someone else beats you so be it
This. Especially with Irving benched.
10DayContract wrote:Cyrusman122000 wrote:Can someone answer this for me please.
The cavs were a bad defensive team throughout the regular season yet in the second half were very affect on George because they consistently swarmed and doubled teamed him and took the ball out of his hands
Why doesn't Indiana simply do the same to Lebron? Why wouldn't you swarm, blitz, and double him every time? If someone else beats you so be it
This. Especially with Irving benched.
I don't get how people don't understand that despite its name, the MVP award actually doesn't have anything to do with being the most valuable player. If it wasn't awarded that way pretty much any time during its creation, why do you want to change the guidelines?CnG wrote:It's abundantly clear why Lebron shouldn't be the MVP, and that has no bearing on him as a player at all.
I don't get how people still cannot comprehend the difference between the best player and the MVP award.
Dupp wrote:LookToShoot wrote:Dupp wrote:Also double t is so good at switching and guarding the perimeter. He's so mobile.Its so valuable, especially against the warriors. More so than if he was a good rim protector.. The job he did on curry in last years finals was amazing.
But, LeBron takes him for granted. LeBron's defense last night was lazy.
Lebron defense in the second half was great.
And Lebron and TT get into arguments a lot over defense but they're the only two guys that play it
10DayContract wrote:Cyrusman122000 wrote:Can someone answer this for me please.
The cavs were a bad defensive team throughout the regular season yet in the second half were very affect on George because they consistently swarmed and doubled teamed him and took the ball out of his hands
Why doesn't Indiana simply do the same to Lebron? Why wouldn't you swarm, blitz, and double him every time? If someone else beats you so be it
This. Especially with Irving benched.
Dupp wrote:LookToShoot wrote:Dupp wrote:Also double t is so good at switching and guarding the perimeter. He's so mobile.Its so valuable, especially against the warriors. More so than if he was a good rim protector.. The job he did on curry in last years finals was amazing.
But, LeBron takes him for granted. LeBron's defense last night was lazy.
Lebron defense in the second half was great.
And Lebron and TT get into arguments a lot over defense but they're the only two guys that play it
MoMan24 wrote:Warchant wrote:LivingLegend wrote:
Because LeBron is one of the best passers in NBA history and will find a wide open 3 pt. shooter. Paul George isnt near the passer out of double teams.
If you double LeBron--you are giving a wide open 3pt shot to Channing Frye, Kyle Korver, JR Smith or Kyrie Irving. Thats not something you want.
So those guys payed 48 mins? As a defense, you can rotate and allow a guy to shoot the ball...McMillan is terrible and didnt cover Frye and Korver and allow Shump and D Will to shoot the ball
Your idea works in theory only. In reality their will be off ball movement, off ball screens will be set, cross match ups in transition, and Williams and Shump can make wide open 3's. Also like people have mentioned that game plan may be the worst to use against James out of any player ever outside of Magic. I am 100% sure he will tear your double team and rotations to pieces. He has seen every defense possible 10x over. He just makes it look easy. Dude scores 30+ and gets 10+ assists without playing selfish at all.
Warchant wrote:MoMan24 wrote:Warchant wrote:So those guys payed 48 mins? As a defense, you can rotate and allow a guy to shoot the ball...McMillan is terrible and didnt cover Frye and Korver and allow Shump and D Will to shoot the ball
Your idea works in theory only. In reality their will be off ball movement, off ball screens will be set, cross match ups in transition, and Williams and Shump can make wide open 3's. Also like people have mentioned that game plan may be the worst to use against James out of any player ever outside of Magic. I am 100% sure he will tear your double team and rotations to pieces. He has seen every defense possible 10x over. He just makes it look easy. Dude scores 30+ and gets 10+ assists without playing selfish at all.
Mayb u dont watch the Cavs much....they just stand around and wait for LB to pass the ball....I agree transition is different, but in a half court set Im sagging off of Shump and D will that whole 4Q and will not run at them if they catch the pass to leave another shooter...if they make 4 or 5 shots from 3 nice job and tip your cap but why run at them so they can pass to a better shooter?
Seabass11 wrote:Warchant wrote:MoMan24 wrote:Your idea works in theory only. In reality their will be off ball movement, off ball screens will be set, cross match ups in transition, and Williams and Shump can make wide open 3's. Also like people have mentioned that game plan may be the worst to use against James out of any player ever outside of Magic. I am 100% sure he will tear your double team and rotations to pieces. He has seen every defense possible 10x over. He just makes it look easy. Dude scores 30+ and gets 10+ assists without playing selfish at all.
Mayb u dont watch the Cavs much....they just stand around and wait for LB to pass the ball....I agree transition is different, but in a half court set Im sagging off of Shump and D will that whole 4Q and will not run at them if they catch the pass to leave another shooter...if they make 4 or 5 shots from 3 nice job and tip your cap but why run at them so they can pass to a better shooter?
But under normal circumstances it won't be Dwill and Shump...it will be Kyrie and JR. The Cavs would LOVE for you to sag off of them
Birdie wrote:
Honestly, I don't think most anyone in the current NBA (yes, even LBJ) could do what Westbrook just did this season. Closet I could think of is Wall but I don't think Wall could rebound like a banshee the way Westbrook does. Westbrook's motor is just on another level and let's not forget, on a bum knee from a few years ago. Just crazy.
And as for your slight dig at Westbrook in not making his teammates better, I mean, I think that's a bit unfair, he did avg 10.4 ast per game, so you can't really say he's not involving his teammates to a degree. Being frank, I watched a few OKC games on League Pass this year and Russ most likely easily could've been around 12-15ast per game if he had guys not brick some great looks or had the shooters LBJ has. The fact OKC is a terrible 3pt shooting team and really doesn't have another creator outside of "maybe" Dipo, the fact he even got 10ast per game is remarkable in it's own instance.
At some point, you can't ding him for being "selfish" when in the end, he's the entire team because that's what Presti put around him unfortunately. And again, let's put this in perspective:
Russell: 81 games played; 2802 minutes played, 31.6PPG 10.7REB 10.4AST 10.2-24.0FGM/A 42.5FG% 34.3 3PT% 84.5FT%
LeBron: 74 games played; 2795 minutes played, 26.4PPG 8.6REB 8.7AST 9.9-18.2FGM/A 54.8FG% 36.3 3PT% 67.4FT%
CLE = 51 wins; OKC = 46 wins
And again, I'll mention, CLE had 2 other All-Stars on the team plus 9 guys who played, including LBJ, who shot 35% or higher (Korver highest at 48.5%) from 3, 5 of those guys shot > than 40%. Russ had 4 guys who shot better than 35% with Abrines topping out at 38.1% of the guys who played and actually jacked up shots. Dipo, McBuckets, Jerami Grant and Alex Abrines. Those 4 hardly instilling fear in the hearts of other teams.
I mean, if you're gonna look at those number and say, damn, Russ isn't the MVP, I don't know man, ya just gotta give props when it's due. Any other ho hum season, LBJ takes it easily but unfortunately, Russ just had a better season and to a degree, you could say Harden too. Some might say Kawhi too but I'm not quite sold on that one but he easily could finish 3rd with LBJ fatigue when it comes to voting.
I don't know why I'm going to these lengths to defend Westbrook as I could care less but you got me on one, lol. LBJ should've been unanimous MVP that one year where that idiot reporter gave his vote to Melo and possibly, LBJ/Kobe should've been MVP's those Nash years' but at this point, I think LBJ is more than happy taking Finals MVPs' and chips as opposed to a regular season accolade. That's all I'm sayin but I don't disagree with where you're coming from and why you feel the way you do. Perfectly understandable. I think as Cavs fans', we take LBJ for granted as well and when he's gone, we're gonna be right back into suckville where no one is gonna want to come play for us again and the universe will spin on...unless it all goes to hell with what's going on currently in this crazy world but I won't digress into that non-sport talk. In the end, LBJ just affirming his beast mode and we need 13 more wins worth of it so I can have another happy panda summer again.
