If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals

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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#21 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:20 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:I like kemba just as much as the next guy, but that’s some weird hyperbole right there…

His performance in last year’s playoffs doesn’t really help your case, either.


Yup. Lowry's biggest question mark is his play in the playoffs. So bringing up a PG that has been ever worse in the playoffs doesnt make much sense.
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#22 » by The_Hater » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:20 pm

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Illmatic12 wrote:A team that could really use Walker is the Milwaukee Bucks. A dynamic shooting/scoring PG is what they're missing, they would be blowing Toronto out of the water if they had Kemba.


Walker wouldn't help the Bucks as much as you think. He would take the ball out of Giannis and Middleton's hands while providing far worse defense than Brogdan and Delle. I think Bucks are better with the ball in the hands of those 2 players on offense and having all those long armed defenders who can switch everything in defense.

Kemba is a lot better than Middleton. He could be a pressure valve for Giannis and make clutch shots down the stretch


Middleton might be the most underrated player in the entire league. And you just proved it with that statement. He is good at everything and has no weaknesses. Buidling a successful team isn't about putting as many High volume scorers on the floor as possible.
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#23 » by BayArea408415 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:24 pm

Maybe if the Raptors had Wall and PG instead of Lowry & DD, they could potentially take out the Cavs each year. With Kemba.....no.

Wall, PG, Carroll/Tucker, Ibaka, Val with Patterson, Joseph and Powell off the bench. Definitely a sick team. Although, the current Wizards + PG would probably be even more difficult for the Cavs. Offensive firepower of Wall, Beal and PG.
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#24 » by Dupp » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:28 pm

Well Kemba is a better player than Lowry so it wouldn't hurt

Or just anyone other than Carroll
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Post#25 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:41 pm

they are about the same. just a surprising thread though lol
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#26 » by Illmatic12 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:55 pm

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Walker wouldn't help the Bucks as much as you think. He would take the ball out of Giannis and Middleton's hands while providing far worse defense than Brogdan and Delle. I think Bucks are better with the ball in the hands of those 2 players on offense and having all those long armed defenders who can switch everything in defense.

Kemba is a lot better than Middleton. He could be a pressure valve for Giannis and make clutch shots down the stretch


Middleton might be the most underrated player in the entire league. And you just proved it with that statement. He is good at everything and has no weaknesses. Buidling a successful team isn't about putting as many High volume scorers on the floor as possible.

Funny enough, Kemba is probably even more underrated than Middleton. He just had a season of 24/6/4 on 58 TS% and no one talks about him. Of course he is a better player than Middleton. He's a solid defender also, and one of the most clutch shotcreators in the league.

Walker has improved his shooting a lot and can seamlessly play on/off the ball, great finisher and is one of the most dynamic PnR ballhandlers in the game. Milwaukee needs an advanced ballhandler on their team to help Giannis. The idea that Giannis is an elite ballhandler and can fully control the game like Lebron or Harden is false.. as seen in the recent Mil-Tor game when GA was unsure of how to execute the offense in crunchtime
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#27 » by RaptorsLife » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:04 pm

Seriously? Not a chance. Raptors have a very average half court offense. also give up way to much open shots

Lowry has proven he can wins games in the playoffs by himself
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#28 » by Reeko » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:07 pm

What an absurd thread... the only thing Kemba potentially does better than Lowry is score and even that's debatable. Their passing is about even, Lowry is a better rebounder and defender. Not to mention Lowry is a superior floor general with strong leadership qualities on the court.
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#29 » by The_Hater » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:11 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
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Illmatic12 wrote:Kemba is a lot better than Middleton. He could be a pressure valve for Giannis and make clutch shots down the stretch


Middleton might be the most underrated player in the entire league. And you just proved it with that statement. He is good at everything and has no weaknesses. Buidling a successful team isn't about putting as many High volume scorers on the floor as possible.

Funny enough, Kemba is probably even more underrated than Middleton. He just had a season of 24/6/4 on 58 TS% and no one talks about him. Of course he is a better player than Middleton. He's a solid defender also, and one of the most clutch shotcreators in the league.

Walker has improved his shooting a lot and can seamlessly play on/off the ball, great finisher and is one of the most dynamic PnR ballhandlers in the game. Milwaukee needs an advanced ballhandler on their team to help Giannis. The idea that Giannis is an elite ballhandler and can fully control the game like Lebron or Harden is false.. as seen in the recent Mil-Tor game when GA was unsure of how to execute the offense in crunchtime


Well we're also unsure if Walker can handle the ball and execute the offense in pressure situations too, as last year's Miami series showed everyone.

I would call Walker overrated before I'd call him underrated. But maybe that's just me
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#30 » by RaptorRed » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:14 pm

HornetsFan29 wrote:lowry has always been overrated by raptor fans and Kemba always outplays him when the hornets/raptors play so I just say if the Raptors had the same team but with Kemba their starting PG They would a sure lock for the nba finals.


WTF ? Kemba is basically a younger version of Kyle Lowry. They have the same game but I would say Lowry is the better leader
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Post#31 » by Flight33 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:19 pm

Lol.
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Post#32 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:25 pm

nice joke bud.
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#33 » by Bertrob » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:30 pm

Not even worth discussion. Lowry, although he seems to be a choker, is a much better player than Kemba. Lowry literally plays like a top 10 player during the RS
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#34 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:34 pm

Im obviously far from a Lowry fan. But what exactly is Kemba better than Lowry at? Kemba is a bad defender, he averages even less assists than Kyrie, and Lowry's biggest problem is his playoff play, well Kemba is even worse than Lowry in the playoffs. I dont see how you can make the argument for Kemba over Lowry.
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#35 » by 3Diamantidis » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:53 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:A team that could really use Walker is the Milwaukee Bucks. A dynamic shooting/scoring PG is what they're missing, they would be blowing Toronto out of the water if they had Kemba.


Walker wouldn't help the Bucks as much as you think. He would take the ball out of Giannis and Middleton's hands while providing far worse defense than Brogdan and Delle. I think Bucks are better with the ball in the hands of those 2 players on offense and having all those long armed defenders who can switch everything in defense.

Kemba is a lot better than Middleton. He could be a pressure valve for Giannis and make clutch shots down the stretch



Kemba isn't (and will not be) a better shooter than middleton.
He is a far better handler ofc. Different players, different positions.
The bucks need a quicker version of brogdon. Maybe brogdon himself(who knows?).
He's 24 and he's not pacey and agile as kemba. But he is also a better shooter than kemba.
He happens to have one more thing in common with middleton.
Both of them are terrific defenders. Snell is also a good defender and i know many ppl who love dellavedova's D.
Bucks guards must be 3 and D.
Easy to say, tough to find. Especially the 3.

So?
So kemba is not a good fit for the bucks. Because he can't defend.
This guy is(and always was tbh from the moment Giannis took over the O)
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#36 » by phanman » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:17 pm

Case of the fan being bored with the fact that their team failed to make the playoffs :D Fail to see how a PG that led his team to only 36 wins could be considered better than Lowry.

Now if the OP said Chris Paul... I'd be more inclined to agree that they would easily be right up there with the Cavs. Paul would work magic with this team.
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Post#37 » by HornetsFan29 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:29 am

Kemba byhimself took a UConn team who was not even good and led them to a national Title.That is how much of a leader and clutch Kemba is .
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Post#38 » by willywazza » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:32 am

Lowry is playing in the playoffs, Kemba is not.
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#39 » by mcfly1204 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:37 am

HornetsFan29 wrote:Kemba byhimself took a UConn team who was not even good and led them to a national Title.That is how much of a leader and clutch Kemba is .

Who could argue with that logic?
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

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