Is Daryl Morey the best GM?

[NZB2323]

Jerry West is the best GM.

He put together Shaq and Kobe.
Then he went to Memphis and won executive of the year.
Then he went to Golden State and helped assemble the current Warriors team.

[tocooks101]

He was able to acquire 3 superstars in the last few years. Harden, Howard, and now Paul. There's also talks of him trading for Paul George. No other GM has been able to get superstars like Daryl Morey.

Howard is not a superstar, GS was arguably able to get 4 and won 2 rings. Next.

[Ballerhogger]

He was able to acquire 3 superstars in the last few years. Harden, Howard, and now Paul. There's also talks of him trading for Paul George. No other GM has been able to get superstars like Daryl Morey.

We will have to see how it pans out. Bright side is Chris paul is far away from Doc Rivers. Chris Paul and James shouldn't have any problems getting to WCF to play Golden State Warriors.. The coach will need to adjust to defensive strategies. No excuses for Houston.

[ckman]

Don't you guys know if there was no Kyle Lowry trade, Morey probably could not pull off the Harden trade? central to the Harden trade was the first round pick acquired by trading Lowry

I always confuse when people said how the trade won't go through without the picks from previous trade.
Can't you just offer them the other picks you got? Do Rockets trade away all the picks like Nets?

that's a high pick that got OKC Steve Adams... without that pick, the trade was not as appealing for OKC

OKC already decided not to re-sign Harden to avoid luxury tax, not much interest around the league that time, i'd guess Rockets pretty much could still completed the deal with other assets they got.

[Don Draper]

OKC already decided not to re-sign Harden to avoid luxury tax, not much interest around the league that time, i'd guess Rockets pretty much could still completed the deal with other assets they got.

Why do you keep insisting on this? No, they couldn't. They trade nearly all of their valuable assets to get Harden. That future 1st rounder was instrumental in getting Harden since the Raptors were coming off of a losing season.

Since you insist they could have given up something else, what else could they have given up?

[BScoreez]

Talk about overrated. He has faced 0 adversity as an executive... he inherited a fantastic pick and two future stars just entering their prime in Curry and Thompson.. who blossomed into great players (lucky for him)

People act like he built the franchise from scratch... he inherited a great situation.

Know what Morey inherited? The hobbled corpses of T-Mac and Yao and some spare tires. No future stars... no good prospects... no good picks... and he has managed what he has had pretty well. Congratulations to Bob Myers for inheriting a team with two young emerging stars ... He drafted a future max level player in the 2nd round? Cool, so did Morey.

Just looking at end results is of course ridiculous... you can only do so much with the hand you're dealt. Morey has done A LOT with absolute garbage.

I'm sorry. I was just trying to point out to those who said West made all the moves, that Myer's first move post-West was a positive one. I actually said there were few GM's i'd rather have than Morey.

Again I'm sorry that Morey had an unfavorable start to his career in Houston, but Myers made a non-play off team into potentially the greatest team of all time. That doesn't just spontaneously jump into existence, it takes tons of planning and strategic moves to make it even possible. You can call that a cake walk, but i'll sit here enjoying our perennial domination of the Rockets while we wait for you to catch up. CP3 hasn't beat curry head to head in 5 years so i'd keep working on it if i were you.

But my question for you is, who in the world did Morey draft in the 2nd round that is comparable to Draymond? Max salary means nothing, any GM can give out a big contract to a crappy player, I want to know who has played as well and had as much of an effect out of the 2nd round in Houston. I'll wait.

All I saw is xxx, but yyy, xxx but yyy. This is the Curry vs Harden argument all over again. How to evaluate doing good working with less vs doing great working with more? It's a never ending debate. Both side of fans will list things to favor their arguments, using your xxx is great but yyy.

One thing you were wrong about is, you cannot use Draymond as your only argument. If you do that, none of the current GM can be compared to Bob Meyer, not even close. You are talking about DPOY out of second round. In fact, there is a lot of luck in drafting Draymond lets admit that, because if Draymond doesn't workout you got nothing to lose - you just look for the next Draymond. Out of 100 2nd rounders you got to hit some jackpot at some point right? But paying Harden 5/80, taking a 6MOY as the future franchise foundational piece, that's sheer vision. You are throwing the franchise on a player who was never even the 2nd option of a young team. In a way, that's more impressive than drafting Draymond, or paying peanut on a two time MVP because of his injury history NOT because Meyer's vision on what a player Curry would turn into.

CONTEXT, is everything.

To be fair the Rockets weren't the only team that wanted Harden. For example the Warriors were in serious talks to acquire Harden and actually were very close to a deal except the Thunder would not take on either Biedrins or Jefferson's contract and the Warriors wouldn't do that trade without one of them as part of it. If either team caved to the Biedrins/Jefferson stipulation Harden likely would have been a Warrior.

[TinmanZBoy]

I always confuse when people said how the trade won't go through without the picks from previous trade.
Can't you just offer them the other picks you got? Do Rockets trade away all the picks like Nets?

that's a high pick that got OKC Steve Adams... without that pick, the trade was not as appealing for OKC

OKC already decided not to re-sign Harden to avoid luxury tax, not much interest around the league that time, i'd guess Rockets pretty much could still completed the deal with other assets they got.

seriously?? rockets immediately gave him a max extension, and gave up a lot for him... he was a hot commodity and it was not a secret

[ckman]

that's a high pick that got OKC Steve Adams... without that pick, the trade was not as appealing for OKC

OKC already decided not to re-sign Harden to avoid luxury tax, not much interest around the league that time, i'd guess Rockets pretty much could still completed the deal with other assets they got.

seriously?? rockets immediately gave him a max extension, and gave up a lot for him... he was a hot commodity and it was not a secret

Maybe you had a short memory, while it turned out to be hell of a trade for Rockets, most including Rockets fans thought they gave up way too many at the time. Rest of the league having doubt whether Harden able to lead a team and were reluntant to give him a max contract.
OKC wanted to get something instead of him walking free next season, there's literally no team going to match Rockets offer .
And don't forget, he just came off a dismal performance in the finals that time, he's not the player he is now.
Btw, the Raptors pick is lottery protected, it's not as valuable as you think, you can easily replace it with a future 1st of your own or a useful player.