Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets

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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#21 » by urgal » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:47 pm

JGOJustin wrote:This will be an underrated get for Houston. What an awesome get for Hou.

Most underrated defender in the league and should have been an all NBA defender this past season. Excellent open 3 point shooter, excellent cutter, and defenders 1 through 4 fluidly.

Not even Morey himself is that excited about him.
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Post#22 » by K_chile22 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:58 pm

Lost Angel wrote:do they only have the minimum left?

Yup. Used MLE on Tucker and BAE on Black
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Post#23 » by ZombieKilla » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:59 pm

Lost Angel wrote:do they only have the minimum left?


I believe so. They used the BAE on Tarik Black.

They also have a few non-guaranteed contracts they can piece together for up to about a MLE level player in a trade, but there is a time limit on those.
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Post#24 » by ClipsFanSince98 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:06 pm

Surprised he chose Houston at minimum and not to remain in LA where he loved it. Maybe he was super close with CP3?
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Post#25 » by K_chile22 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:08 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Surprised he chose Houston at minimum and not to remain in LA where he loved it. Maybe he was super close with CP3?

He makes a little more because taxes, but I have a hard time believing no one was offering the Tax Payer MLE or the Room MLE
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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#26 » by 12footrim » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:23 pm

gmoney411 wrote:
ZombieKilla wrote:Solid 10 player rotation at the moment (Nene and Black will share backup C duties)

Rockets just need a backup PG/4th Guard.

C - Capela, Nene, Black
PF - Anderson, Moute
SF - Ariza, Tucker
SG - Harden, Gordon
PG - Paul


Not sure there would be any minutes for a backup PG. Paul and Harden will be the backup for each other. That's essentially the way it worked with Bev last year.



That's not even accounting for Shawn Long who had a 24 Player Eff Rating and can play both post positions. I would really love to see him get a chance.
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Post#27 » by Revived » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:35 pm

I can't believe they got him for the minimum.

Him and Andre Roberson are very similar players aka very good defensively but trash offensively and yet Presti paid Roberson $10M/yr over 3 years.
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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#28 » by og15 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:36 pm

JGOJustin wrote:This will be an underrated get for Houston. What an awesome get for Hou.

Most underrated defender in the league and should have been an all NBA defender this past season. Excellent open 3 point shooter, excellent cutter, and defenders 1 through 4 fluidly.

I think it would be more accurate for us to say "above average" very open corner 3PT shooter. Luc was taking about 2 3PA/36, his volume was super low because he can basically only take them when he's wide open. His 39% 3PT based on how open his 3PT shots were is not really that good compared to how well other guys shoot on similarly open 3PT shots. Everything else though is true, really loved the guys defense, I was hoping he would be back, but it is what it is.

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Surprised he chose Houston at minimum and not to remain in LA where he loved it. Maybe he was super close with CP3?
I posted in the Clippers forum that just randomly a couple of days ago I was thinking to myself that CP is going to end up getting Houston to bring Luc on. They had a very good connection on cuts, some of CP's best passes were made to a cutting Luc, and Paul was always praising his defense. I'm sad to see him go. Some Clippers fans hated on him because he was thrust into a starting role due to this teams lack of depth, and he could only provide so much on offense and shrunk the floor, but he was such a versatile and solid defensive player. I also don't know if I ever noticed Mbah complain about a call, did you? Guy just went out there and did all the little things, could guard the 1-4, has such great lateral quickness, and last season, he even sort of developed that corner 3PT shot at least marginally.
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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#29 » by og15 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:44 pm

ZombieKilla wrote:Solid 10 player rotation at the moment (Nene and Black will share backup C duties)

Rockets just need a backup PG/4th Guard.

C - Capela, Nene, Black
PF - Anderson, Moute
SF - Ariza, Tucker
SG - Harden, Gordon
PG - Paul

I think Tucker would be more suitable as a small 4 and Luc as a 3 in the rotation, so those two would probably be switched. Sad Houston got him over the Clippers, though I don't know if the Clippers were still looking to bring him back anymore.

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I thought he was a good to great defender last year but for some reason he couldn't even bother Joe Johnson in the first round. He scored at will against any clipper including luc

Yes! Joe Johnson was not able to be contained by any Clippers defender. Clippers needed someone like PJ Tucker maybe to contain JJ in that series, he just out muscled everyone, it was so sad.
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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#30 » by InWestWeTrust » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:49 pm

Hadn't seen their depth. If it was even in question, they are the second best team in the west. Top tier
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Post#31 » by MaxRider » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:49 pm

SF - Ariza, Tucker, Mbah a Moute
that is super stack at SF already and you're talking Harden or Gordon may play some SF when they need more offense
is Mbah a Moute going to play primary at PF like Shawn Marion did for MDA in Phoenix?
why I have this feeling Morey is going to trade Capela and Ariza for Melo?
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Post#32 » by Ballings7 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:50 pm

He won't have the same impact in HOU as LAC because he won't be getting as many minutes even as he did in his role with LAC (not near 30MPG), off the bench, and Mike D'Antoni won't play him enough unless he becomes such a lights out shooter and fast-break scorer.. and, he'll be rarely seen in the playoffs outside of foul trouble.

However, this is a solid depth signing for Houston in case someone goes down or gets into foul trouble in the regular rotation.

Would of been better on the Spurs.
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Post#33 » by The_Hater » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:53 pm

ZombieKilla wrote:
gmoney411 wrote:
ZombieKilla wrote:Solid 10 player rotation at the moment (Nene and Black will share backup C duties)

Rockets just need a backup PG/4th Guard.

C - Capela, Nene, Black
PF - Anderson, Moute
SF - Ariza, Tucker
SG - Harden, Gordon
PG - Paul


Not sure there would be any minutes for a backup PG. Paul and Harden will be the backup for each other. That's essentially the way it worked with Bev last year.


They have to have someone in case Harden, Paul or Gordon get injured.
Taylor and Brown are not ready.
This will also enable them to rest the top 3 guards more.
Remember how bad Tyler Ennis was?
He was unplayable if the game was competitive.


They currently have other players under contract other than the 10 players listed above including PG Isaiah Taylor.
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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#34 » by norcocredo » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:00 am

Nice pickup. Would like to see if CP3 and Harden can figure out how to play together. If so, they are probably the second best team in the west. Still won't beat a healthy Warriors team. I'm still not convinced CP3 and Harden won't choke.
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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#35 » by ZombieKilla » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:42 am

The_Hater wrote:
ZombieKilla wrote:
gmoney411 wrote:
Not sure there would be any minutes for a backup PG. Paul and Harden will be the backup for each other. That's essentially the way it worked with Bev last year.


They have to have someone in case Harden, Paul or Gordon get injured.
Taylor and Brown are not ready.
This will also enable them to rest the top 3 guards more.
Remember how bad Tyler Ennis was?
He was unplayable if the game was competitive.


They currently have other players under contract other than the 10 players listed above including PG Isaiah Taylor.


I did say rotation guys.

Taylor, Qi, Onuaku and Oliver are all signed but none are likely to crack the regular rotation. Troy Williams and Bobby Brown will also possibly be signed. 17 spots including the 2 two-way player spots.
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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#36 » by The_Hater » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:04 am

ZombieKilla wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
ZombieKilla wrote:
They have to have someone in case Harden, Paul or Gordon get injured.
Taylor and Brown are not ready.
This will also enable them to rest the top 3 guards more.
Remember how bad Tyler Ennis was?
He was unplayable if the game was competitive.


They currently have other players under contract other than the 10 players listed above including PG Isaiah Taylor.


I did say rotation guys.

Taylor, Qi, Onuaku and Oliver are all signed but none are likely to crack the regular rotation. Troy Williams and Bobby Brown will also possibly be signed. 17 spots including the 2 two-way player spots.


Teams don't generally go out of their way to carry rotation level players on the end of their bench, it's not the best use of payroll. If there's a long term injury to one of the rotation players then you review.
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Re: Luc Mbah A Moute To the Rockets 

Post#37 » by red96 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:12 am

MaxRider wrote:SF - Ariza, Tucker, Mbah a Moute
that is super stack at SF already and you're talking Harden or Gordon may play some SF when they need more offense
is Mbah a Moute going to play primary at PF like Shawn Marion did for MDA in Phoenix?
why I have this feeling Morey is going to trade Capela and Ariza for Melo?

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Post#38 » by briansaddleback » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:14 am

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Post#39 » by Dupp » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:09 am

Only the min? **** cavs doing nothing smh.
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Post#40 » by K_chile22 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:14 am

Dupp wrote:Only the min? **** cavs doing nothing smh.

That's why you don't sign guys early who will be there in September, like Calderon and Green

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