Pippen in this era versus 90s

triple_threat · Post #1 » by **triple_threat** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:12 am

I think pippen would rank higher today than in the 90s. I'll take him over Kawhi.

RCM88x · Post #2 » by **RCM88x** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:16 am

I wouldn't take him over Kawhi but he's basically the perfect 2nd option in this era. Great outside shooter, great passer, great defender both man and off ball, unselfish. Basically Draymond Green but at SF and a better scorer.

Post #3 » by **cupcakesnake** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:23 am

He's faster than Kawhi and a better passer, a little twitchier and more active. But Kawhi is miles ahead as a shooter and a scorer. He's also more focused and unrattle-able. And Pippen does not have those hands. Compare them both in the 6th season (Kawhi is in his 6th season).

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kawhi+Leonard&player_id1_select=Kawhi+Leonard&player_id1=leonaka01&y1=2017&player_id2_hint=Scottie+Pippen&player_id2_select=Scottie+Pippen&y2=1992&player_id2=pippesc01&idx=players

thamadkant · Post #4 » by **thamadkant** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:28 am

You get Kawhi Leonard with Iguadala's play making....

kinggnik87 · Post #5 » by **kinggnik87** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:30 am

Pippen with his athleticism will basically overwhelm everyone not named Lebron. His defense is amazing and any championship team would love to have him in their team.

Cavsfansince84 · Post #6 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:31 am

RCM88x wrote:I wouldn't take him over Kawhi but he's basically the perfect 2nd option in this era. Great outside shooter, great passer, great defender both man and off ball, unselfish. Basically Draymond Green but at SF and a better scorer.

Not so sure I agree on the great outside shooter part. I saw a lot of Pippen and he never really stood out as a great shooter to me. He could shoot the 3 from the top of the arc and his mid range jump shot was kind of streaky. Great all around player though.

Post #7 » by **Prez** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:35 am

1UPZ wrote:You get Kawhi Leonard with Iguadala's play making....

Pippen isn't close to Kawhi as a scorer, and the gap's only getting bigger year by year.

udfa · Post #8 » by **udfa** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:35 am

triple_threat wrote:I'll take him over Kawhi.

Couldn't disagree more. Kawhi is closer to Jordan than Pippen and IMO clearly better than the latter.

Post #9 » by **Domejandro** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:37 am

He wouldn't get away with his criminal hand-checking and player-grabbing in this era, so I feel he would take a step back and be closer to Paul George (worse outsider shooter, but consistently motivated defensive player).

It isn't going to be a popular statement, but I've been watching tape lately, and I have been amazed with what he got away with. He would still be a great defensive player, but it is astonishing.

udfa · Post #10 » by **udfa** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:39 am

Cavsfansince84 wrote:
RCM88x wrote:I wouldn't take him over Kawhi but he's basically the perfect 2nd option in this era. Great outside shooter, great passer, great defender both man and off ball, unselfish. Basically Draymond Green but at SF and a better scorer.

Not so sure I agree on the great outside shooter part. I saw a lot of Pippen and he never really stood out as a great shooter to me. He could shoot the 3 from the top of the arc and his mid range jump shot was kind of streaky. Great all around player though.

Agree. Great player but today he would be considered a mediocre 3pt shooter.

Pippen career 3pt shooting: 32.6%. Draymond is a career 33.4% 3pt shooter

smartyz456 · Post #11 » by **smartyz456** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:53 am

durant, kawhi, paul george, butler and as much as i hate to say it, lebron, would all be better small forwards then pippen in this current era

afarmenian · Post #12 » by **afarmenian** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:56 am

RCM88x wrote:I wouldn't take him over Kawhi but he's basically the perfect 2nd option in this era. Great outside shooter, great passer, great defender both man and off ball, unselfish. Basically Draymond Green but at SF and a better scorer.

Oh i was so afraid to compare him to Green but yeah i think thats spot on. Its hard to think of any forward that streaky on offense that can still make up for it with defense and playmaking in todays nba

Kurosawa0 · Post #13 » by **Kurosawa0** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:01 am

I don't know if Pippen would be better in this era. I think he was one of the top 5 players of his decade. He'd still be amazing now.

HollowEarth · Post #14 » by **HollowEarth** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:22 am

Pippen should totally have played in this era. With the internet he probably would have realized that other NBA all stars make more than a million dollars a year and those Nigerian princes couldn't possibly all be the rightful king. Dude comes off real bitter some times, and I think it's from having been so successful on the court but just getting screwed financially.

CobraCommander · Post #15 » by **CobraCommander** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:25 am

Prez wrote:
1UPZ wrote:You get Kawhi Leonard with Iguadala's play making....

Pippen isn't close to Kawhi as a scorer, and the gap's only getting bigger year by year.

so we assuming Pippen wouldn't learn to play today's game in today's way??? Oh and Pippen wasn't a primary scorer because there was another guy on his team that took the majority of the shots...i cant remember his name but Pippen wasn't the guy asked to scorer on the Bulls.

spacemonkey · Post #16 » by **spacemonkey** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:02 am

I would kind of love to see peak Pippen on the Spurs.

jlokine · Post #17 » by **jlokine** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:30 am

another past where does ____ rank in this era thread...

GregOden · Post #18 » by **GregOden** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:17 am

smartyz456 wrote:durant, kawhi, paul george, butler and as much as i hate to say it, lebron, would all be better small forwards then pippen in this current era

Pippen was a better rebounder, playmaker, ballhandler, and defender than Paul George, at peak roughly an equivalent scorer. The only thing George does better is shoot 3s.

He's behind Durant, but I don't see any other SF in the league clearly better than him.

hege53190 · Post #19 » by **hege53190** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:50 am

So Pau Gasol can become a 3 pt shooter but Scottie Pippen can't.

I love how much everybody doubts unbelievable players adapting to today's playing style.

I love the guy that compared Pippen to Kawhi in year 6 of their careers and said they would take kawhi.

Do you know what else Pippen did in year 6 of his career. He won a title. His 3rd straight.

As for individual impact. Pippen had the top two VORP seasons out of these two through 6 seasons.

The fact people would take Paul George or Jimmy Butler over him is just a bad joke.

Pippen was amazing and his skill set would just be accentuated in today's game.

ThumbsUpBaby · Post #20 » by **ThumbsUpBaby** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:15 am

smartyz456 wrote:durant, kawhi, paul george, butler and as much as i hate to say it, lebron, would all be better small forwards then pippen in this current era