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Or think about this way. You are talking about the best PG in the East this year but then you exclude two who assists more than any other guards in the east besides John Wall ...
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It's still Lowry.
When it's all said and done, Lowry impacts winning basketball more than any other PG in the East. He's a smarter player, he's been the most efficient scorer of the bunch for 3 of the last 4 seasons. It's only been 8 games, he's going to find his rhythm and when he does he will prove he's still the best PG in the East. He doesn't need flashy cross-overs or insane speed, just look at the advanced stats since 2013-2014.
When it's all said and done, Lowry impacts winning basketball more than any other PG in the East. He's a smarter player, he's been the most efficient scorer of the bunch for 3 of the last 4 seasons. It's only been 8 games, he's going to find his rhythm and when he does he will prove he's still the best PG in the East. He doesn't need flashy cross-overs or insane speed, just look at the advanced stats since 2013-2014.
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Wall needs to work out with Beals trainer in the summer. Gonna keep coming up short but getting enough counting stats to excite casuals per usual. With that said Lowry doesn't even deserve to be compared to these guys tho
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dukes_wild wrote:It's still Lowry.
When it's all said and done, Lowry impacts winning basketball more than any other PG in the East. He's a smarter player, he's been the most efficient scorer of the bunch for 3 of the last 4 seasons. It's only been 8 games, he's going to find his rhythm and when he does he will prove he's still the best PG in the East. He doesn't need flashy cross-overs or insane speed, just look at the advanced stats since 2013-2014.
what does Lowry's advanced stats say about his piss-poor playoff performance since 2013-2014? Lowry is the opposite of Kyrie in the sense that he becomes the worst version of himself when it matters the most. Along with DeRozan, Lowry is probably the most overrated guards in the league right now.
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Tritodian wrote:dukes_wild wrote:It's still Lowry.
When it's all said and done, Lowry impacts winning basketball more than any other PG in the East. He's a smarter player, he's been the most efficient scorer of the bunch for 3 of the last 4 seasons. It's only been 8 games, he's going to find his rhythm and when he does he will prove he's still the best PG in the East. He doesn't need flashy cross-overs or insane speed, just look at the advanced stats since 2013-2014.
what does Lowry's advanced stats say about his piss-poor playoff performance since 2013-2014? Lowry is the opposite of Kyrie in the sense that he becomes the worst version of himself when it matters the most. Along with DeRozan, Lowry is probably the most overrated guards in the league right now.
He was fine in the playoffs last year. You're really just thinking of the previous two seasons.
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Tritodian wrote:dukes_wild wrote:It's still Lowry.
When it's all said and done, Lowry impacts winning basketball more than any other PG in the East. He's a smarter player, he's been the most efficient scorer of the bunch for 3 of the last 4 seasons. It's only been 8 games, he's going to find his rhythm and when he does he will prove he's still the best PG in the East. He doesn't need flashy cross-overs or insane speed, just look at the advanced stats since 2013-2014.
what does Lowry's advanced stats say about his piss-poor playoff performance since 2013-2014? Lowry is the opposite of Kyrie in the sense that he becomes the worst version of himself when it matters the most. Along with DeRozan, Lowry is probably the most overrated guards in the league right now.
Yeah he's been pretty bad in the playoffs. Doesn't change the fact that he's still been quite easily the best regular season PG in the East for 3-4 years now. That's a much larger sample size than the playoffs. Also would like to point out that aside from the Pacers series from 2015-2016 and Wizards series from 2014-2015, he really hasn't been terrible
The playoff argument for Kyrie isn't really fair since he's been able to lean on one of the GOATs who teams clearly game-plan for ahead of Kyrie. LeBron allows Kyrie to just focus on being a scorer rather than a leader and primary shot creator for others like Lowry was. If Kyrie dominates in the playoffs without LeBron this year, I'll quickly change my tune, but until then I'm not putting a ton of stock into it.
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Lowry? When playoff time come, he shoots 25% from the floordukes_wild wrote:It's still Lowry.
When it's all said and done, Lowry impacts winning basketball more than any other PG in the East. He's a smarter player, he's been the most efficient scorer of the bunch for 3 of the last 4 seasons. It's only been 8 games, he's going to find his rhythm and when he does he will prove he's still the best PG in the East. He doesn't need flashy cross-overs or insane speed, just look at the advanced stats since 2013-2014.
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Kemba continues to stake his claim as the best PG in the East.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
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HoopsMalone wrote:Kemba continues to stake his claim as the best PG in the East.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
The hornets really failed to add a 2nd player who can create for himself. Lance stephenson wouldve been that guy but that didn't work out.
With all their defense and length it's surprising they let the bulls score 123 and lost
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lambchop wrote:HoopsMalone wrote:Kemba continues to stake his claim as the best PG in the East.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
The hornets really failed to add a 2nd player who can create for himself. Lance stephenson wouldve been that guy but that didn't work out.
With all their defense and length it's surprising they let the bulls score 123 and lost
'We went under the screens all night and the bulls drilled every 3pointer. It doesnt help that Howard can't move his feet on defense so we drop him in the paint... and his helpside defense is no longer that great and kemba and co. were getting beat off the dribble a lot
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HoopsMalone wrote:Kemba continues to stake his claim as the best PG in the East.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
Kyrie's roster is hardly loaded, and certainly wasn't loaded prior to Lebron James joining the Cavs.
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HeartBreakKid wrote:HoopsMalone wrote:Kemba continues to stake his claim as the best PG in the East.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
Kyrie's roster is hardly loaded, and certainly wasn't loaded prior to Lebron James joining the Cavs.
They've won 13 straight games! It's pretty loaded...
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HoopsMalone wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:HoopsMalone wrote:Kemba continues to stake his claim as the best PG in the East.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
Kyrie's roster is hardly loaded, and certainly wasn't loaded prior to Lebron James joining the Cavs.
They've won 13 straight games! It's pretty loaded...
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Baller1234a wrote:HoopsMalone wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:
Kyrie's roster is hardly loaded, and certainly wasn't loaded prior to Lebron James joining the Cavs.
They've won 13 straight games! It's pretty loaded...
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It's not loaded in the conventional sense of allstar talents... but i mean they even won both games without kyrie... and several of those games they won without him playing well.
Take lebron off the cavs and they are prob worse than the kings
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HoopsMalone wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:HoopsMalone wrote:Kemba continues to stake his claim as the best PG in the East.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
Kyrie's roster is hardly loaded, and certainly wasn't loaded prior to Lebron James joining the Cavs.
They've won 13 straight games! It's pretty loaded...
Isn't that a circular argument then? You're basically saying that if a team is winning it is loaded, and if it is losing it is not. That doesn't really make sense, you can argue that the Cavs and Thunder have no talent on them using your standards.
The Celtics are not a loaded team, if they were then the story of them winning so many games...wouldn't be a story. They are overachieving - and the past two seasons you could argue that the Hornets underachieved since they really should be a playoff team every year.
Al Horford is the 2nd best player, and after him are rotation players. That isn't a loaded team, perhaps better than what Walker has but not stacked by any means. If they are loaded then what is Golden State?
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HeartBreakKid wrote:HoopsMalone wrote:HeartBreakKid wrote:
Kyrie's roster is hardly loaded, and certainly wasn't loaded prior to Lebron James joining the Cavs.
They've won 13 straight games! It's pretty loaded...
Isn't that a circular argument then? You're basically saying that if a team is winning it is loaded, and if it is losing it is not. That doesn't really make sense, you can argue that the Cavs and Thunder have no talent on them using your standards.
The Celtics are not a loaded team, if they were then the story of them winning so many games...wouldn't be a story. They are overachieving - and the past two seasons you could argue that the Hornets underachieved since they really should be a playoff team every year.
Al Horford is the 2nd best player, and after him are rotation players. That isn't a loaded team.
First of all, Horford is the best player right now....
Secondly, the hornets came in tied for 3rd two years ago. We only missed the playoffs last year because we went 3-17 with Zeller injured and forced to play Roy Hibbert.
This year we are underachieving because we are playing Dwight Howard and leaving zeller on the bench
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Keep sleeping on Lowry, best PG in the East in November so far
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Regular Season: Its Kyle Lowry. I don't just look at scoring. Statistically, Lowry is the best overall PG in the east by far. He contributes to the team's W like no other in every single category.
Playoffs: I'd rather have Ramon Sessions than Lowry
Playoffs: I'd rather have Ramon Sessions than Lowry
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HoopsMalone wrote:Kemba continues to stake his claim as the best PG in the East.
He's definitely the best scoring PG. He dropped a pretty absurd 47 points tonight on 17-27 FG, 5-8 3pt, 8-9 FT with 5 ast and 1 to
It's a shame he's stuck on this roster and doesn't get his due. If he was on the loaded rosters Kyrie's played on his entire career he'd probably be All NBA.
Why do you keep bumping this thread when he has one good game? Where were you when he had a bunch of stinkers lately leading his team to 6 straight losses? Even with his 47 point game tonight, his numbers are awful for the month.
Do yourself a favour and admit defeat and get on with your life. No one thinks Walker is the top PG in the East or even close to it. He is much closer to leading his team to the bottom of the East than to the top of it.
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