Which team has the best supporting cast in the NBA?
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Rockets might have the best depth tho....them or the Raps of course
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Not Cavs for sure. Without LeBron they'd be fine. But without Korver they'd be doomed.
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klay and draymond are the best role players
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klay and draymond are the best role players
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why is OKC on there
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Golden State is the only team that you could argue would be a playoff team without their two top stars.
Shaun Livingston
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green
Zaza
is still a decent starting five.
Shaun Livingston
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green
Zaza
is still a decent starting five.
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Kurosawa0 wrote:Golden State is the only team that you could argue would be a playoff team without their two top stars.
Shaun Livingston
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green
Zaza
is still a decent starting five.
Meh
VanVleet
Wright
Anunoby
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Is on par with that imo just for the simple fact that gsw team has 0 spacing, plus once you consider the benches after the fact it becomes clear.
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YogurtProducer wrote:Kurosawa0 wrote:Golden State is the only team that you could argue would be a playoff team without their two top stars.
Shaun Livingston
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green
Zaza
is still a decent starting five.
Meh
VanVleet
Wright
Anunoby
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Is on par with that imo just for the simple fact that gsw team has 0 spacing, plus once you consider the benches after the fact it becomes clear.
Klay and Draymond are both far better than anyone on that Raptors lineup.
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lmao typical Golden State overhype. The Warriors are definitely not the best without Curry and Durant.
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Kurosawa0 wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Kurosawa0 wrote:Golden State is the only team that you could argue would be a playoff team without their two top stars.
Shaun Livingston
Klay Thompson
Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green
Zaza
is still a decent starting five.
Meh
VanVleet
Wright
Anunoby
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Is on par with that imo just for the simple fact that gsw team has 0 spacing, plus once you consider the benches after the fact it becomes clear.
Klay and Draymond are both far better than anyone on that Raptors lineup.
And? It’s 5 on 5 not 2 on 2
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Comparing the Warriors and Raptors is pretty easy imo, considering the top two stars play relatively the similiar positions.
Ask yourself this....are the raptors a better team with the Warriors cast alongside Derozan and Lowry?
Lowry/Livingston
Klay/Young
Derozan/Iggy
Draymond/Looney
Pachulia/Bell
To me, that's without a doubt the better team. It's not even really close, despite the clear loss in depth.
As opposed to ....'
Curry/Van Fleet
Powell?Anunoby?/
Durant/Miles
Ibaka/ Siakam
Val/ Poetl
I mean, It's hard for me to say that Raptor team would beat the Warrior team considering the impact of Curry and Durant, but I can confidently say that the Raptors get better while the Warriors get worse.
Warrior supporting cast>>>>>
especially going by this criteria.
Ask yourself this....are the raptors a better team with the Warriors cast alongside Derozan and Lowry?
Lowry/Livingston
Klay/Young
Derozan/Iggy
Draymond/Looney
Pachulia/Bell
To me, that's without a doubt the better team. It's not even really close, despite the clear loss in depth.
As opposed to ....'
Curry/Van Fleet
Powell?Anunoby?/
Durant/Miles
Ibaka/ Siakam
Val/ Poetl
I mean, It's hard for me to say that Raptor team would beat the Warrior team considering the impact of Curry and Durant, but I can confidently say that the Raptors get better while the Warriors get worse.
Warrior supporting cast>>>>>
especially going by this criteria.
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YogurtProducer wrote:Kurosawa0 wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:
Meh
VanVleet
Wright
Anunoby
Ibaka
Valanciunas
Is on par with that imo just for the simple fact that gsw team has 0 spacing, plus once you consider the benches after the fact it becomes clear.
Klay and Draymond are both far better than anyone on that Raptors lineup.
And? It’s 5 on 5 not 2 on 2
right, but considering the top 2 are constants, it's really about 4 on 4, rather than 2 on 2. Lowry, Derozan Klay and Draymond would be significantly better than Lowry, Derozan, Val, Ibaka (or whoever else is considered the 3rd and 4th best player on the Raptors) Obviously, from 5-12 the Raptors core would have an edge over the Warriors, but atleast to me, all that depth doesn't come close to making up the difference between Klay and Draymond vs whoever you consider the 3rd and 4th best raptor player. Hell, I would rather have Draymond himself than any two of Ibaka/Val/Siakam. Then you have Klay...
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TheHartBreakKid wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Kurosawa0 wrote:
Klay and Draymond are both far better than anyone on that Raptors lineup.
And? It’s 5 on 5 not 2 on 2
right, but considering the top 2 are constants, it's really about 4 on 4, rather than 2 on 2. Lowry, Derozan Klay and Draymond would be significantly better than Lowry, Derozan, Val, Ibaka (or whoever else is considered the 3rd and 4th best player on the Raptors) Obviously, from 5-12 the Raptors core would have an edge over the Warriors, but atleast to me, all that depth doesn't come close to making up the difference between Klay and Draymond vs whoever you consider the 3rd and 4th best raptor player. Hell, I would rather have Draymond himself than any two of Ibaka/Val/Siakam. Then you have Klay...
Well that’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but I believe you’re wrong.
Imagine playing that team. You literally just stay tight on Klay because he can’t create and now you have an absolute non threat (Livingston) a very inconsistent one (Iggy) a poor shooter (Zaza) and then Dray.
At least Vleet/Wright/OG/Ibaka/Val has a legit 5 guys who can step out plus a lot of defence.
Now, consider that teams are 8–10 guys deep and you have a bench of Powel Poeltl and Siakam or one of Nick Young, McGee and West?
I mean look at the raptors bench right now, it’s absolutrlt dominating and now you have them (plus sole starters) playing against teams without their top 2? For sure GSW is good but without Curry and KD that’s a much bigger loss than Lowry and Demar.
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YogurtProducer wrote:TheHartBreakKid wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:
And? It’s 5 on 5 not 2 on 2
right, but considering the top 2 are constants, it's really about 4 on 4, rather than 2 on 2. Lowry, Derozan Klay and Draymond would be significantly better than Lowry, Derozan, Val, Ibaka (or whoever else is considered the 3rd and 4th best player on the Raptors) Obviously, from 5-12 the Raptors core would have an edge over the Warriors, but atleast to me, all that depth doesn't come close to making up the difference between Klay and Draymond vs whoever you consider the 3rd and 4th best raptor player. Hell, I would rather have Draymond himself than any two of Ibaka/Val/Siakam. Then you have Klay...
Well that’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it but I believe you’re wrong.
Imagine playing that team. You literally just stay tight on Klay because he can’t create and now you have an absolute non threat (Livingston) a very inconsistent one (Iggy) a poor shooter (Zaza) and then Dray.
At least Vleet/Wright/OG/Ibaka/Val has a legit 5 guys who can step out plus a lot of defence.
Now, consider that teams are 8–10 guys deep and you have a bench of Powel Poeltl and Siakam or one of Nick Young, McGee and West?
I mean look at the raptors bench right now, it’s absolutrlt dominating and now you have them (plus sole starters) playing against teams without their top 2? For sure GSW is good but without Curry and KD that’s a much bigger loss than Lowry and Demar.
Again though.....and maybe this is just how I'm looking at the thread, but to me, it's not about the raptors 3-12 vs the Warrior 3-12. In that sense, your argument is valid regarding a lack of spacing. But this is about the best supporting cast, so in my hypothetical, I'm keeping the players in a supporting role, and judging them based on that.
Lowry
Klay
Derozan
Green
Pachulia
looks pretty damn good to me.
You don't have the luxory of playing Klay tight in this scenario because you have to provide help for Lowry/Derozan.
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joeyAdaMan wrote:Warriors by a huge gap...because they still have two players capable of making star level contributions
The same Warriors who are 13-10 without Curry this year?
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Why are people voting the Warriors? They obviously have trouble without their complete big 4. I voted Raptors.
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Cavs had Lebron and Rose as MVP players and then Lebron and Wade for Finals mvp players with historic finals and then had Isaiah and Love as other allstars at the same time. So if at the beginning of the season it would be them. But because I don't want to get in trouble I would say currently it would have to be Portland.
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clyde21 wrote:joeyAdaMan wrote:Warriors by a huge gap...because they still have two players capable of making star level contributions
The same Warriors who are 13-10 without Curry this year?
Did Durant or any of the other stars miss time in those 23 games as well? I mean, nobody is denying that Steph is the engine of the Warriors or anything.
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JordansBulls wrote:Cavs had Lebron and Rose as MVP players and then Lebron and Wade for Finals mvp players with historic finals and then had Isaiah and Love as other allstars at the same time. So if at the beginning of the season it would be them. But because I don't want to get in trouble I would say currently it would have to be Portland.
Bro...you keep referencing Rose as an MVP....as if he's been remotely close to that(highly overrated) MVP caliber player he was in the last 7 years....he hasn't....
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