WCSF: P2 | (2) Golden State Warriors vs New Orleans Pelicans (6) | GS wins 4-1

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Warriors in 4
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Warriors in 5
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Warriors in 6
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16%
Warriors in 7
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7%
Pelicans in 6
3
3%
Pelicans in 7
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Post#2 » by INKtastic » Thu May 3, 2018 3:51 am

Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?
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Post#3 » by CS707 » Thu May 3, 2018 3:53 am

INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?


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Post#4 » by Impuniti » Thu May 3, 2018 3:57 am

INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?

Just curious for future reference. Will you be whining about how unfair it is for Lebron after you get swept in the finals if there is a rematch?
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Post#5 » by commentatorer » Thu May 3, 2018 3:57 am

Golden State are such a well-oiled machine in the playoffs, its just so hard to envisage Houston keeping up with them.
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Post#6 » by KingCurry » Thu May 3, 2018 5:13 am

INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?


depends, does Lebron makes his teammates better and everyone wants to play with him or are his teammates trash?
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Post#7 » by floppymoose » Thu May 3, 2018 5:43 am

I don’t know. Are the Warriors “just lucky” this year, or are they a GOAT squad who should be embarrassed if they lose a single game, let alone the ship?
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Post#8 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu May 3, 2018 6:29 am

gst8 wrote:
INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?


70%


Curry's health is directly proportional to his shooting % that game, so he's 53% healthy right now.
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Post#9 » by Spanish_Laker » Thu May 3, 2018 10:05 am

Must win for NOLA in Game 3.
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Post#10 » by Madhouse » Thu May 3, 2018 10:11 am

floppymoose wrote:I don’t know. Are the Warriors “just lucky” this year, or are they a GOAT squad who should be embarrassed if they lose a single game, let alone the ship?

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Post#11 » by CodeBreaker » Thu May 3, 2018 10:31 am

Spanish_Laker wrote:Must win for NOLA in Game 3.

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Post#12 » by Jazztop » Thu May 3, 2018 1:52 pm

So glad I'm not a NO fan. They got seriously shafted by the officials who were simply overawed by Curry's return game.

Hoping that they get all the warrior friendly calls out the way this series and next series they call it down the middle.
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Post#13 » by DubTheVanDamage » Thu May 3, 2018 2:42 pm

INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?


Heh, still on that?

Interestingly, Tom Haberstroh had a very interesting article on exactly that point:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773904-is-steph-curry-really-back

By the time the Warriors beat the Oklahoma City Thunder in a grueling seven-game series, the Cleveland Cavaliers had tracked and broken down his movements like a forensic scientist. They analyzed his in-game workload data, watched hours of film and came away with a realization that they weren't watching the reigning MVP anymore.

"He just wasn't the same animal," one high-level Cavs staffer admitted later.

The box score didn't scream that Curry wasn't 100 percent after the MCL injury; it whispered it. In 16 games after returning, Curry averaged 26.4 points, 5.4 assists and 5.8 rebounds and shot 40.2 percent on 11.5 three-pointers per game. In the Finals, Curry even set a record with 32 made threes.

"Steph still had his shooting ability, but he didn't have that state of flow where everything's working for you effortlessly," Penfold says. "Other times, it's still going to work, but you've got to work at it."

But the Cavs organization saw that Curry's mileage had piled up in the OKC series. The film also revealed a subtle change in the Warriors' attack by design or by default: They preserved his body by letting him create off the dribble.

"He stopped running off the ball," the Cavs source said. "You could clearly see that there was a gradual erosion to his game."


Also:

Curry had been slowly declining in speed, too. According to SportVU tracking data, he averaged 5.21 mph on offense in the Portland series, or covering about 460 feet per minute. In OKC, that dipped to 5.12 (450 feet). In the finals, it fell to 4.88 (430 feet).


You brought it up, are you going to be honorable here? Or just deny or ignore this?
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Post#14 » by Mamba Mentality » Thu May 3, 2018 2:51 pm

Pelicans kinda remind me of the Grizzles postseason teams from a couple years ago. Gritty group of guys, but at the end of day they just don't have enough talent and firepower to keep pace with the western powerhouses.
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Post#15 » by INKtastic » Thu May 3, 2018 3:50 pm

DubTheVanDamage wrote:
INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?


Heh, still on that?

Interestingly, Tom Haberstroh had a very interesting article on exactly that point:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773904-is-steph-curry-really-back

By the time the Warriors beat the Oklahoma City Thunder in a grueling seven-game series, the Cleveland Cavaliers had tracked and broken down his movements like a forensic scientist. They analyzed his in-game workload data, watched hours of film and came away with a realization that they weren't watching the reigning MVP anymore.

"He just wasn't the same animal," one high-level Cavs staffer admitted later.

The box score didn't scream that Curry wasn't 100 percent after the MCL injury; it whispered it. In 16 games after returning, Curry averaged 26.4 points, 5.4 assists and 5.8 rebounds and shot 40.2 percent on 11.5 three-pointers per game. In the Finals, Curry even set a record with 32 made threes.

"Steph still had his shooting ability, but he didn't have that state of flow where everything's working for you effortlessly," Penfold says. "Other times, it's still going to work, but you've got to work at it."

But the Cavs organization saw that Curry's mileage had piled up in the OKC series. The film also revealed a subtle change in the Warriors' attack by design or by default: They preserved his body by letting him create off the dribble.

"He stopped running off the ball," the Cavs source said. "You could clearly see that there was a gradual erosion to his game."


Also:

Curry had been slowly declining in speed, too. According to SportVU tracking data, he averaged 5.21 mph on offense in the Portland series, or covering about 460 feet per minute. In OKC, that dipped to 5.12 (450 feet). In the finals, it fell to 4.88 (430 feet).


You brought it up, are you going to be honorable here? Or just deny or ignore this?


I'd imagine most player slow down as the playoffs progress and the stakes get higher, defenses get tougher. I ask again, curry "Back" or is he only "Back" during the good games and injured the others. We sure didn't hear much talk about his knee when he scored 38 in game 4, but heard tons about it when they lost the next 3 and have ever since then too I'm not sure what Curry's knee had to do with LeBron having back to back 41 point games or Curry's own critical turnover late in game 7.
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Post#16 » by INKtastic » Thu May 3, 2018 4:01 pm

DubTheVanDamage wrote:Also:

Curry had been slowly declining in speed, too. According to SportVU tracking data, he averaged 5.21 mph on offense in the Portland series, or covering about 460 feet per minute. In OKC, that dipped to 5.12 (450 feet). In the finals, it fell to 4.88 (430 feet).


You brought it up, are you going to be honorable here? Or just deny or ignore this?


There's also this: Curry Average Speed Offense in conference finals then NBA finals the past two years

2016: 5.12/4.88
2017: 5.13/4.92

Was he hurt last year too? Or just on the below average games?
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Post#17 » by NickAnderson » Thu May 3, 2018 4:02 pm

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Post#18 » by michaelm » Thu May 3, 2018 4:14 pm

INKtastic wrote:
DubTheVanDamage wrote:
INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?


Heh, still on that?

Interestingly, Tom Haberstroh had a very interesting article on exactly that point:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773904-is-steph-curry-really-back

By the time the Warriors beat the Oklahoma City Thunder in a grueling seven-game series, the Cleveland Cavaliers had tracked and broken down his movements like a forensic scientist. They analyzed his in-game workload data, watched hours of film and came away with a realization that they weren't watching the reigning MVP anymore.

"He just wasn't the same animal," one high-level Cavs staffer admitted later.

The box score didn't scream that Curry wasn't 100 percent after the MCL injury; it whispered it. In 16 games after returning, Curry averaged 26.4 points, 5.4 assists and 5.8 rebounds and shot 40.2 percent on 11.5 three-pointers per game. In the Finals, Curry even set a record with 32 made threes.

"Steph still had his shooting ability, but he didn't have that state of flow where everything's working for you effortlessly," Penfold says. "Other times, it's still going to work, but you've got to work at it."

But the Cavs organization saw that Curry's mileage had piled up in the OKC series. The film also revealed a subtle change in the Warriors' attack by design or by default: They preserved his body by letting him create off the dribble.

"He stopped running off the ball," the Cavs source said. "You could clearly see that there was a gradual erosion to his game."


Also:

Curry had been slowly declining in speed, too. According to SportVU tracking data, he averaged 5.21 mph on offense in the Portland series, or covering about 460 feet per minute. In OKC, that dipped to 5.12 (450 feet). In the finals, it fell to 4.88 (430 feet).


You brought it up, are you going to be honorable here? Or just deny or ignore this?


I'd imagine most player slow down as the playoffs progress and the stakes get higher, defenses get tougher. I ask again, curry "Back" or is he only "Back" during the good games and injured the others. We sure didn't hear much talk about his knee when he scored 38 in game 4, but heard tons about it when they lost the next 3 and have ever since then too I'm not sure what Curry's knee had to do with LeBron having back to back 41 point games or Curry's own critical turnover late in game 7.

The Cavs beat everyone who turned up to play them in 2016, as did GSW in 2015 and 2017.

Hard to know if Curry was affected by injury in 2016, or if he will be affected going forward this year, but that is the Warriors’ and Curry’s problem and no-one else’s. Not much doubt he had the injuries though.
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Post#19 » by Mylie10 » Thu May 3, 2018 4:20 pm

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gst8 wrote:
INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?


70%


Curry's health is directly proportional to his shooting % that game, so he's 53% healthy right now.


LOL! By your logic, Klay needs to be admitted into the hospital! :lol:
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Post#20 » by DubTheVanDamage » Thu May 3, 2018 4:31 pm

INKtastic wrote:
DubTheVanDamage wrote:
INKtastic wrote:Just curious for future reference. Is Curry "back". Or is this going to be another one of those playoffs where he is only "back" on nights he has good games?


Heh, still on that?

Interestingly, Tom Haberstroh had a very interesting article on exactly that point:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773904-is-steph-curry-really-back

By the time the Warriors beat the Oklahoma City Thunder in a grueling seven-game series, the Cleveland Cavaliers had tracked and broken down his movements like a forensic scientist. They analyzed his in-game workload data, watched hours of film and came away with a realization that they weren't watching the reigning MVP anymore.

"He just wasn't the same animal," one high-level Cavs staffer admitted later.

The box score didn't scream that Curry wasn't 100 percent after the MCL injury; it whispered it. In 16 games after returning, Curry averaged 26.4 points, 5.4 assists and 5.8 rebounds and shot 40.2 percent on 11.5 three-pointers per game. In the Finals, Curry even set a record with 32 made threes.

"Steph still had his shooting ability, but he didn't have that state of flow where everything's working for you effortlessly," Penfold says. "Other times, it's still going to work, but you've got to work at it."

But the Cavs organization saw that Curry's mileage had piled up in the OKC series. The film also revealed a subtle change in the Warriors' attack by design or by default: They preserved his body by letting him create off the dribble.

"He stopped running off the ball," the Cavs source said. "You could clearly see that there was a gradual erosion to his game."


Also:

Curry had been slowly declining in speed, too. According to SportVU tracking data, he averaged 5.21 mph on offense in the Portland series, or covering about 460 feet per minute. In OKC, that dipped to 5.12 (450 feet). In the finals, it fell to 4.88 (430 feet).


You brought it up, are you going to be honorable here? Or just deny or ignore this?


I'd imagine most player slow down as the playoffs progress and the stakes get higher, defenses get tougher. I ask again, curry "Back" or is he only "Back" during the good games and injured the others. We sure didn't hear much talk about his knee when he scored 38 in game 4, but heard tons about it when they lost the next 3 and have ever since then too I'm not sure what Curry's knee had to do with LeBron having back to back 41 point games or Curry's own critical turnover late in game 7.


I am not sure what is so existentially important to you that you must desperately cling to the disproved notion that Curry was 100% healthy in the 2016 Finals.

Heh, you "imagine"...

You completely ignored a Cavs staffer saying, "He just wasn't the same animal."

You completely ignored his trainer saying, "Steph still had his shooting ability, but he didn't have that state of flow where everything's working for you effortlessly," Penfold says. "Other times, it's still going to work, but you've got to work at it."

You completely ignored the Warriors former director of player development saying that his lateral movement was limited.

So, yes, Steph could still shoot, which is why he had some good games. But he had a harder time moving off the ball or taking someone, say, a slow footed Kevin Love, off the dribble.

You're just being obtuse here. I don't even understand why it's so important to you -- the article states the Cavs watched the film and correctly found the weakness and LeBron, specifically, was smart enough to target Curry. The Cavs deserve credit for their Finals' game plan and play and you'd rather chalk the win up to Steph choking. Bizarre.
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