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Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:05 am
by OrangeBlueSkies
I know it’s not an easy question... but am I the only one who thinks Mo Bamba will be better than Ayton?

And am I the only one who thinks Mo Bamba won’t necessarily be the best player in the draft ?

The crop in this draft is just so dynamic, I’m betting that Ayton does not fit as well in the new NBA as others may think.

Many here had Fultz as the #1 overall draft choice...

Also, is Doncic the white James Harden?

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:10 am
by -G-
Offensively, I think Ayton will be great. At worst, he's an athletic PnR guy. At best, he's got AD-esque upside as a scorer.

Defensively, I'm not so sure. Didn't impress me at U of A, and bad defensive bigs are disastrous.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:13 am
by PhilBlackson
I think he has the most support but not sure he's quite consensus.

I still think there are people who believe Doncic could be worthy of the #1 overall especially given how the game is played today.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:16 am
by Spens1
Bit too many questions but he should go 1 because where the bloody hell is he playing in Phoenix. You honestly do not want Booker as your primary ball handler thats for sure.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:22 am
by Picasso
I like Bamba, I think any team that gets hi. Will be happy to get him, but I would take ayton at 1.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:07 am
by traax
Its a huge red flag for me, when someone with Aytons body cant dominate the defensive side in college. His defense gives me KAT/Okafor vibes, I would stay away from him.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:25 am
by Ballerhogger
Suns need a young big they have brooker .

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:41 am
by Balllin
I don't know.

I don't think Ayton, Bamba or Bagley have the potential to ever be a number one option offensively for a team, while a guy like Doncic has. I could totally see Ayton get like 20 and 12 in the regular season, just based off his physical tools and good skillset, but when the playoffs come around, I just don't see him having the ability to successfully carry the load offensively. A good defensive scheme can probably render him ineffective. He'd be great playing off another player as a 2nd option, but I just don't see him as that MVP type of first option. This holds true to a even higher degree for Bamba and Bagley. Just not skilled enough offensively.

Doncic, I believe, could end up like a worse scoring but better passing version of James Harden. A guy who at 19 already has the size, ball handling and craftiness to get to the basket, a great step three pointer and really great court vision and bball IQ to find his teammates.



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Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:55 am
by Revived
These type of threads can actually be very useful few years later when looking back to see how the consensus (albeit a small sample size) was regarding the top of the draft at the time. Hope the mods don't lock or merge since GB gets the most traffic on this forum.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:31 am
by Sign5
traax wrote:Its a huge red flag for me, when someone with Aytons body cant dominate the defensive side in college. His defense gives me KAT/Okafor vibes, I would stay away from him.

People said the same thing about Drummond.

Ayton will go number 1.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:46 am
by traax
Sign5 wrote:
traax wrote:Its a huge red flag for me, when someone with Aytons body cant dominate the defensive side in college. His defense gives me KAT/Okafor vibes, I would stay away from him.

People said the same thing about Drummond.

Ayton will go number 1.


What is your point? Drummond is a pretty average defender at best.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:49 am
by Sign5
traax wrote:
Sign5 wrote:
traax wrote:Its a huge red flag for me, when someone with Aytons body cant dominate the defensive side in college. His defense gives me KAT/Okafor vibes, I would stay away from him.

People said the same thing about Drummond.

Ayton will go number 1.


What is your point? Drummond is a pretty average defender at best.

No. His defense improved a great deal since he came into the league.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:09 am
by Riko
I wuoldn't pick him with the first - imho there is too much pressure on every 1th and even a decent career is seen like a bust. Or I wuold draft someonelse like Doncic (low risk), Porter (high risk) or I wuold trade down a couple of spot (Atlanta is in a sweet spot, for example) and pick him if he slip.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:23 am
by lambchop
Ballerhogger wrote:Suns need a young big they have brooker .


you can never have enough wings in today's game. Bigs can be played off the floor, wings can't, unless we're talking about older dudes

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:40 am
by Gordon
Centers are thing of the past, i don`t know why so many bigs are projected to go in Top 6 of the draft, but i think this is huge mistake.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:46 am
by makubesu
I’m convinced the Ayton buzz is a smokescreen. It just makes too much sense for them to pick Doncic. But their goal is to try and get someone to trade up for Ayton since teams can’t resist a good big man.


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Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:03 pm
by 3toheadmelo
for me yes. his floor/upside is too good to pass up

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:19 pm
by flintsky21
Doncic has that "basketball prodigy" feel in him for what it's worth and so I'd be picking him 1.

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:30 pm
by LastNameEver
I dont think his defense will be an issue like Towns

Re: Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:47 pm
by arh1109
Honestly it’s like putting Einstein’s brain into Dwight Howard’s body. But does he have heart to continually improve?