Woj: Spurs sign Dante Cunningham

NYKnickerbocker · Post #21 » by **NYKnickerbocker** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:42 pm

jptremblay wrote:I'm starting to think that Spurs (besides drafting and developement) aren't really that good at all.
Last season summer was awful, only the Gay deal made sense. This year, seems like another wasted year unless they start rebuilding properly.
With or without Kawhi this team ain't going anywhere right now.

sometimes the well runs dry lol, can't stay a winning franchise forever.

Effigy · Post #22 » by **Effigy** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:50 pm

Man, the Spurs sure seem to love those ex-Blazers. Dante, Patty, LMA, Ime Udoka, etc

NY 567 · Post #23 » by **NY 567** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:51 pm

See ya later, Kawhi

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #24 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:52 pm

Danny Green, Dejounte Murray, and future 1st rd. pick for Kemba Walker and Jeremy Lamb?

Hornets:

Murray/Parker/D. Graham
Green/Monk/Bacon
Batum/MKG/T. Graham
Williams/Bridges/Kaminsky
Zeller/Hernangomez/Biyombo

Phreak50 · Post #25 » by **Phreak50** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:17 pm

jptremblay wrote:With or without Kawhi this team ain't going anywhere right now.

Pretty much describing 90% of the league.

Ballings7 · Post #26 » by **Ballings7** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:12 pm

People comparing Cunnigham to SFs like its his primary position are clueless.

Cunningham can switch and play the 3 in spurts, but his primary positions are at the 4 and 5. Always have been.

Also Parker as a "loss" is a gain for the Spurs at where he's been at this point in his career, he's on the downside and likely won't be like he was in that 2017 Memphis series, again.

Kawhi ain't gone yet.

Zion Wembanyama · Post #27 » by **Zion Wembanyama** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:23 pm

Spurs-type player. His first half-season with Nawlins was good enough to keep him around. He regressed from there though. Pop should be able to wring the towel dry though.

jptremblay · Post #28 » by **jptremblay** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:39 pm

Slim Charlez wrote:
jptremblay wrote:I'm starting to think that Spurs (besides drafting and developement) aren't really that good at all.
Last season summer was awful, only the Gay deal made sense. This year, seems like another wasted year unless they start rebuilding properly.
With or without Kawhi this team ain't going anywhere right now.

Who should they have signed this year or last according to you?

Last year, Chris Paul was avaible and the assets required were not high by any means, a trade would have put them at the level of GSW.
Also, with awfuls contracts like Gasol and Mills they throw away any chance of improving the team.
They also let Dedmon and Simmons walk for nothing, and I understand that they couldn't keep those two, but at least sign some other useful guys, not Lavergnue and the other guard that came from Europe.

This year since Kawhi is gone, they should start the rebuilding, because they aren't gettin fair value back for Kawhi, and they are not contending with LA as a star. MOVE SOMETHING, trade Mills or Pau with some late first or some prospect like D.White...

The problem is that they are always with the same type of guys, with the same moves...they never seem to assum risk, something like a big move. They should trade Aldridge while he still has decent value after his best season in SA, and then try to get free of one of Gasol or Mills.

jptremblay · Post #29 » by **jptremblay** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:44 pm

Phreak50 wrote:
jptremblay wrote:With or without Kawhi this team ain't going anywhere right now.

Pretty much describing 90% of the league.

Nope, some teams are moving, trying things, while the Spurs sign Bellinelli (another old and unathletic guy...hurra) and bring back Gay in a situation that does not make sense.
Bad teams at least are gettin assets, improving their team with high upside youngsters...Spurs are treadmilling.

bklynspursfan · Post #30 » by **bklynspursfan** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:24 am

jptremblay wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
jptremblay wrote:I'm starting to think that Spurs (besides drafting and developement) aren't really that good at all.
Last season summer was awful, only the Gay deal made sense. This year, seems like another wasted year unless they start rebuilding properly.
With or without Kawhi this team ain't going anywhere right now.

Who should they have signed this year or last according to you?

Last year, Chris Paul was avaible and the assets required were not high by any means, a trade would have put them at the level of GSW.
Also, with awfuls contracts like Gasol and Mills they throw away any chance of improving the team.
They also let Dedmon and Simmons walk for nothing, and I understand that they couldn't keep those two, but at least sign some other useful guys, not Lavergnue and the other guard that came from Europe.

This year since Kawhi is gone, they should start the rebuilding, because they aren't gettin fair value back for Kawhi, and they are not contending with LA as a star. MOVE SOMETHING, trade Mills or Pau with some late first or some prospect like D.White...

The problem is that they are always with the same type of guys, with the same moves...they never seem to assum risk, something like a big move. They should trade Aldridge while he still has decent value after his best season in SA, and then try to get free of one of Gasol or Mills.

Uh, you do know CP3 wanted to go to Houston right? He withdrew from playing in SA. It's why Pau got the contract he did, because he opted out to give them cap flexibility. When they couldn't land anyone, they gave him the contract they did, which they likely agreed upon.

And Mills, after his great shooting in the 2014 finals signed a 3 yr 12 million contract, when he surely would've gotten more in the field, despite his shoulder injury. Obviously that helped them with roster flexibility. They were simply paying him more because of what he did for the team and the kind of teammate he is.

Pop doesn't have many years, screw that rebuilding talk. The plan was to build around Kawhi and LMA, the team that was in the WCF last season putting it on the Warriors. They couldn't have predicted this Kawhi nonsense would happen. If Kawhi plays this year, they aren't an 8 seed or a first round exit. Simple

DaPessimist · Post #31 » by **DaPessimist** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:25 am

Game. Set. Match.

bklynspursfan · Post #32 » by **bklynspursfan** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:28 am

jptremblay wrote:
Phreak50 wrote:
jptremblay wrote:With or without Kawhi this team ain't going anywhere right now.

Pretty much describing 90% of the league.

Nope, some teams are moving, trying things, while the Spurs sign Bellinelli (another old and unathletic guy...hurra) and bring back Gay in a situation that does not make sense.
Bad teams at least are gettin assets, improving their team with high upside youngsters...Spurs are treadmilling.

Dejounte Murray, Derrick White, Lonnie Walker, Davis Bertans, etc... I think it's safe to call these guys high upside youngsters.

Post #33 » by **og15** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:33 am

RipPizzaGuy wrote:Shocked this guy wasn't on the Rockets radar. Perfect Mbah replacement

Maybe he was, but he didn't want to go there. They did get Ennis who is also a similar replacement, but since they lost both Ariza and Mbah, they maybe needed two replacements at that 3/4/5 (small) spot. I'm guessing if they reached out to him he didn't see potential for too many minutes if the are also getting Melo.

Post #34 » by **og15** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:35 am

jptremblay wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
jptremblay wrote:I'm starting to think that Spurs (besides drafting and developement) aren't really that good at all.
Last season summer was awful, only the Gay deal made sense. This year, seems like another wasted year unless they start rebuilding properly.
With or without Kawhi this team ain't going anywhere right now.

Who should they have signed this year or last according to you?

Last year, Chris Paul was avaible and the assets required were not high by any means, a trade would have put them at the level of GSW.
Also, with awfuls contracts like Gasol and Mills they throw away any chance of improving the team.
They also let Dedmon and Simmons walk for nothing, and I understand that they couldn't keep those two, but at least sign some other useful guys, not Lavergnue and the other guard that came from Europe.

This year since Kawhi is gone, they should start the rebuilding, because they aren't gettin fair value back for Kawhi, and they are not contending with LA as a star. MOVE SOMETHING, trade Mills or Pau with some late first or some prospect like D.White...

The problem is that they are always with the same type of guys, with the same moves...they never seem to assum risk, something like a big move. They should trade Aldridge while he still has decent value after his best season in SA, and then try to get free of one of Gasol or Mills.

Paul was fake available. It was an opt in and trade which meant he was only available via the trade to a team he specifically wanted to go to. The price was pretty decent, Beverley, Williams, Harrell, Dekker and a 1st Rounder.

Ballings7 · Post #35 » by **Ballings7** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:38 am

Ballings7 wrote:People comparing Cunnigham to SFs like its his primary position are clueless.

Cunningham can switch and play the 3 in spurts, but his primary positions are at the 4 and 5. Always have been.

Also Parker as a "loss" is a gain for the Spurs at where he's been at this point in his career, he's on the downside and likely won't be like he was in that 2017 Memphis series, again.

Kawhi ain't gone yet.

Did some further checking and he actually has played at SF notably in addition to being used at the other spots. My fault.. I've just been aware of him most as a PF and small-ball five... I know his first few years he wasn't really able to space the floor, so had to be more of a PF, and small-ball five.

CIN-C-STAR · Post #36 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:41 am

Weird they gave him more than the minimum, albeit not by much.
Perhaps there was another suitor like the Rockets. A few hundred thousand more could mean something to a lower-end player like Cunningham.

nbafan38 · Post #37 » by **nbafan38** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:42 am

Good pickup, spurs could really surprise some people next year if they can convince Kawhi to play.

anish23 · Post #38 » by **anish23** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:02 am

isn't it time for Pop to retire and let someone else take over...

its time to move on and start a new page, seriously.

BimboColes · Post #39 » by **BimboColes** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:03 am

anish23 wrote:isn't it time for Pop to retire and let someone else take over...

its time to move on and start a new page, seriously.

Awful coach I agree.

LightTheBeam · Post #40 » by **LightTheBeam** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:53 am

og15 wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:Shocked this guy wasn't on the Rockets radar. Perfect Mbah replacement

Maybe he was, but he didn't want to go there. They did get Ennis who is also a similar replacement, but since they lost both Ariza and Mbah, they maybe needed two replacements at that 3/4/5 (small) spot. I'm guessing if they reached out to him he didn't see potential for too many minutes if the are also getting Melo.

Ya I would think even 3 replacements. If we assume Melo steps into the Ariza role, and Ennis fills in for Luc. When playoff time hit they ran 6-7 man rotations because they didn't have enough bodies. They were forced to turn to Joe Johnson