Woj: Lakers trying to acquire Ariza in 3-team deal

NoZoLakers · Post #41 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:35 am

Dr Aki wrote:
BallnIngram wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:I actually prefer KCP to Ariza. The Lakers need guards more than they need wings.

Would prefer to sign Ariza on a minimum.

kcp n ariza role is same regardless of position n ariza is the better defender

KCP is way more capable of chasing scoring guards than Ariza is.

It's at best a lateral move for me.

kcp is a **** defender, no if or ands bout it. ariza can at least hold his own 1 on 1 D

NoZoLakers · Post #42 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:37 am

getrichordie wrote:
BallnIngram wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Lakers are trying to increase their expiring $$$ so they can go after Paul via trade.

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dude get off that nonsense la aint trying to trade for cp3

Why wouldn’t they be?

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cause hes old n makes boat load of $, gets hurt constantly....la wants to build something with potential to be competitive post James, trading for paul doesnt do that n where the heck are you even getting this ridiculous idea from?

RamonSessions7 · Post #43 » by **RamonSessions7** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:37 am

getrichordie wrote:
BallnIngram wrote:
getrichordie wrote:Lakers are trying to increase their expiring $$$ so they can go after Paul via trade.

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dude get off that nonsense la aint trying to trade for cp3

Why wouldn’t they be?

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Contract. A move to improve our team by dumping Kcp for a better ariza is just that and doesn’t send any signals besides some weird reach that we’d be interested in bailing rockets out

RCM88x · Post #44 » by **RCM88x** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:38 am

Ariza is definitely valuable to a team like LAL, however I got to imagine someone else is able to offer a bit more. Denver perhaps, or even LAC.

getrichordie · Post #45 » by **getrichordie** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:38 am

BallnIngram wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
BallnIngram wrote:dude get off that nonsense la aint trying to trade for cp3

Why wouldn’t they be?

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cause hes old n makes boat load of $, gets hurt constantly....la wants to build something with potential to be competitive post James, trading for paul doesnt do that n where the heck are you even getting this ridiculous idea from?

Yeah, because that’s been the Lakers M.O. historically. Paul can still play. He may have injuries but he can still play and he can mentor Lonzo.

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NoZoLakers · Post #46 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:40 am

NBAFan93 wrote:
ShowTimeERA wrote:Bad move. KCP is more valuable than Ariza at this point.

You’re kidding right? KCP has been awful for them for 2 seasons now.

If Phoenix makes another self destructive deal to give Ariza to the Lakers then Lol re: the integrity of the league - plus the foolishness of the Suns organization for putting a GM in place who is just a front for helping out another team/player/players agent. Suns fans should revolt.

your hate is showing....chandler move was laughed at but now that hes producing for la, that move was a travesty lol, give me a break

Pointgod · Post #47 » by **Pointgod** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:41 am

I love this move for the Lakers. Ariza is the kind of championship player that will play well off of Lebron.

NoZoLakers · Post #48 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:42 am

getrichordie wrote:
BallnIngram wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Why wouldn’t they be?

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cause hes old n makes boat load of $, gets hurt constantly....la wants to build something with potential to be competitive post James, trading for paul doesnt do that n where the heck are you even getting this ridiculous idea from?

Yeah, because that’s been the Lakers M.O. historically. Paul can still play. He may have injuries but he can still play and he can mentor Lonzo.

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so this cp3 thing comes from you n not actual people in the know? btw that MO stuff is based on the old regime, i would think Pelinka is snarter than they, magic is another question

getrichordie · Post #49 » by **getrichordie** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:43 am

RamonSessions7 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
BallnIngram wrote:dude get off that nonsense la aint trying to trade for cp3

Why wouldn’t they be?

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Contract. A move to improve our team by dumping Kcp for a better ariza is just that and doesn’t send any signals besides some weird reach that we’d be interested in bailing rockets out

Rockets need to re-tool. It’s no secret. All Lakers have to do is send expirings and players who fit in between Harden and Capela. A move for Ariza does not raise Lakers ceiling enough. Magic and LeBron knows this. They get Paul and everything changes.

Paul/Lonzo
Hart/Lonzo/Svi
Ingram/Beasley
James/Wagner
Chandler/McGee/Zubac

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NoZoLakers · Post #50 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:44 am

getrichordie wrote:
RamonSessions7 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Why wouldn’t they be?

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Contract. A move to improve our team by dumping Kcp for a better ariza is just that and doesn’t send any signals besides some weird reach that we’d be interested in bailing rockets out

Rockets need to re-tool. It’s no secret. All Lakers have to do is send expirings and players who fit in between Harden and Capela.

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nobody in their right mind would bail hou out of cp3 w/o incentives from hou

RamonSessions7 · Post #51 » by **RamonSessions7** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:44 am

getrichordie wrote:
RamonSessions7 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Why wouldn’t they be?

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Contract. A move to improve our team by dumping Kcp for a better ariza is just that and doesn’t send any signals besides some weird reach that we’d be interested in bailing rockets out

Rockets need to re-tool. It’s no secret. All Lakers have to do is send expirings and players who fit in between Harden and Capela.

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No thanks.

Dubious Handles · Post #52 » by **Dubious Handles** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:48 am

KCP > Ariza imo. Don't the lakers have enough forwards and are thin on guards?

LightTheBeam · Post #53 » by **LightTheBeam** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:49 am

People saying KCP is better than Ariza.. Phx is where vets go to die, as soon as he gets traded to LA hes going to be a beast. Tyson Chandler PT2.

Side Note: The NBA should get to veto the trade based on the fact its James Jones just helping Lebron. Also Jones should be fired after this year if he does that **** again.

NoZoLakers · Post #54 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:50 am

The Boshstrich wrote:KCP > Ariza imo. Don't the lakers have enough forwards and are thin on guards?

their only job is to catch n shoot 3s, dont matter position n Josh hart is doing everything kcp can do n alot more

Soupman · Post #55 » by **Soupman** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:51 am

Suns Lakers and who else?

LikeABosh · Post #56 » by **LikeABosh** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:51 am

How much more help does Lebron need?

getrichordie · Post #57 » by **getrichordie** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:51 am

BallnIngram wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
RamonSessions7 wrote:Contract. A move to improve our team by dumping Kcp for a better ariza is just that and doesn’t send any signals besides some weird reach that we’d be interested in bailing rockets out

Rockets need to re-tool. It’s no secret. All Lakers have to do is send expirings and players who fit in between Harden and Capela.

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nobody in their right mind would bail hou out of cp3 w/o incentives from hou

Paul is making $35 million this year.

Rondo = $9M
KCP = $12M
Stephenson = $4.5M
Beasley = $3.5M

= $29M

turning KCP into Ariza?

= $32M

The only question is how to round out that trade... who goes to Phoenix and what does Houston want to send?

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NBAFan93 · Post #58 » by **NBAFan93** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:51 am

BallnIngram wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
ShowTimeERA wrote:Bad move. KCP is more valuable than Ariza at this point.

You’re kidding right? KCP has been awful for them for 2 seasons now.

If Phoenix makes another self destructive deal to give Ariza to the Lakers then Lol re: the integrity of the league - plus the foolishness of the Suns organization for putting a GM in place who is just a front for helping out another team/player/players agent. Suns fans should revolt.

your hate is showing....chandler move was laughed at but now that hes producing for la, that move was a travesty lol, give me a break

It was a stupid move on Phoenix’s part. Many thought that well before he started producing for LAL. The timing was very, very suspect - Phoenix could have used him to salary match as an expiring. It made no sense at the time except for helping the Lakers. If Phoenix doesn’t benefit by getting something they need in this deal either it will be really, really suspicious.

Dr Aki · Post #59 » by **Dr Aki** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:52 am

BallnIngram wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:
BallnIngram wrote:kcp n ariza role is same regardless of position n ariza is the better defender

KCP is way more capable of chasing scoring guards than Ariza is.

It's at best a lateral move for me.

kcp is a **** defender, no if or ands bout it. ariza can at least hold his own 1 on 1 D

That's just like... your opinion man

Post #60 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:52 am

getrichordie wrote:
RamonSessions7 wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
Why wouldn’t they be?

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Contract. A move to improve our team by dumping Kcp for a better ariza is just that and doesn’t send any signals besides some weird reach that we’d be interested in bailing rockets out

Rockets need to re-tool. It’s no secret. All Lakers have to do is send expirings and players who fit in between Harden and Capela. A move for Ariza does not raise Lakers ceiling enough. Magic and LeBron knows this. They get Paul and everything changes.

Paul/Lonzo
Hart/Lonzo/Svi
Ingram/Beasley
James/Wagner
Chandler/McGee/Zubac

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Beyond the obvious reasons why this is unlikely, Ariza would not be allowed to be aggregated in a larger trade after the Lakers got him. Gotta wait 60 days for that, which would be after the trade deadline.