Where does Jusuf Nurkic rank among centers?

[ThatBoyNick]

Can any Blazer fan explain why Nurkic plays such less number of minutes? He is only averaging 27mpg this season.

It has to be stamina or problems with defensive switching...perhaps a combo.

[thierry]

LOL .. Nurk is NOT better than KAT

I love Nurk & dislike KAT -- don't out think yourself

[Dzon Dilindzer]

Can any Blazer fan explain why Nurkic plays such less number of minutes? He is only averaging 27mpg this season.

It has to be stamina or problems with defensive switching...perhaps a combo.

hes been our second best player this season, so its either condition or terry stotts... defense is not the problem, hes our best defender and the alternatives are meyers leonard who cant defend at all and zach collins who can defend, but is to weak at present, so he gets out muscled

[life_saver]

Can any Blazer fan explain why Nurkic plays such less number of minutes? He is only averaging 27mpg this season.

It has to be stamina or problems with defensive switching...perhaps a combo.

hes been our second best player this season, so its either condition or terry stotts... defense is not the problem, hes our best defender and the alternatives are meyers leonard who cant defend at all and zach collins who can defend, but is to weak at present, so he gets out muscled

does he get gassed in 4th Quarter(like say Embiid who has looked pretty tired in 4th quarters so far this season)?

[TheBonzaiEffect]

22/8/7/6 blocks tonight.

Guy has been a monster last 2 months.

Before tonight, at 23.5 PER, 5.6 BPM, +16.7 (!!!) +/-, and 4.82 RPM (12th in NBA, only behind Jokic and Gobert for Centers -- with Davis as a PF). *If* he keeps up what he's doing the last few months, he's only behind Jokic and Embiid IMO.

[DusterBuster]

It has to be stamina or problems with defensive switching...perhaps a combo.

hes been our second best player this season, so its either condition or terry stotts... defense is not the problem, hes our best defender and the alternatives are meyers leonard who cant defend at all and zach collins who can defend, but is to weak at present, so he gets out muscled

does he get gassed in 4th Quarter(like say Embiid who has looked pretty tired in 4th quarters so far this season)?

That's been an issue with him in the past, not so sure it is this year though. I think his 4th quarter issues have been a mix of partially stamina, but mostly foul trouble. He tends to go into 4th quarters with 4 or 5 fouls, which i think tends to lead him to play pretty conservatively so as not to foul out.

[zzaj]

22/8/7/6 blocks tonight.

Guy has been a monster last 2 months.

Before tonight, at 23.5 PER, 5.6 BPM, +16.7 (!!!) +/-, and 4.82 RPM (12th in NBA, only behind Jokic and Gobert for Centers -- with Davis as a PF). *If* he keeps up what he's doing the last few months, he's only behind Jokic and Embiid IMO.

Jokic - 29.5M/yr for 5 years. 23 years old.
Embiid - 29.5M/yr for 5 years. 24 years old.

Nurkic - 12M/yr for 4 years. 24 years old.

Clearly, if Nurkic continues this level of production he's the best bargain Center in the NBA...not including rookie scale players, of course. I think people forget that he's only 24.

[DusterBuster]

22/8/7/6 blocks tonight.

Guy has been a monster last 2 months.

Before tonight, at 23.5 PER, 5.6 BPM, +16.7 (!!!) +/-, and 4.82 RPM (12th in NBA, only behind Jokic and Gobert for Centers -- with Davis as a PF). *If* he keeps up what he's doing the last few months, he's only behind Jokic and Embiid IMO.

Yeah, as of right now, its hard to put him outside of the Top 5. If we're talking PURE centers and not combo guys like AD, KAT, etc, than I think - as you mentioned - you can make an argument that he's Top 3.

[JazzUte88]

At times I think I'd rather have a guy like Nurkic or Gobert than KAT. Just feel like those guys have more of an impact defensively than KAT does offensively.

[TheBonzaiEffect]

22/8/7/6 blocks tonight.

Guy has been a monster last 2 months.

Before tonight, at 23.5 PER, 5.6 BPM, +16.7 (!!!) +/-, and 4.82 RPM (12th in NBA, only behind Jokic and Gobert for Centers -- with Davis as a PF). *If* he keeps up what he's doing the last few months, he's only behind Jokic and Embiid IMO.

Yeah, as of right now, its hard to put him outside of the Top 5. If we're talking PURE centers and not combo guys like AD, KAT, etc, than I think - as you mentioned - you can make an argument that he's Top 3.

I'm counting AD as a PF. But quite candidly, this level of Nurkic, I take over KAT. Just immensely superior defender and rim protector, passer, and while not as potent offensively, very effective there.

[DusterBuster]

22/8/7/6 blocks tonight.

Guy has been a monster last 2 months.

Before tonight, at 23.5 PER, 5.6 BPM, +16.7 (!!!) +/-, and 4.82 RPM (12th in NBA, only behind Jokic and Gobert for Centers -- with Davis as a PF). *If* he keeps up what he's doing the last few months, he's only behind Jokic and Embiid IMO.

Yeah, as of right now, its hard to put him outside of the Top 5. If we're talking PURE centers and not combo guys like AD, KAT, etc, than I think - as you mentioned - you can make an argument that he's Top 3.

I'm counting AD as a PF. But quite candidly, this level of Nurkic, I take over KAT. Just immensely superior defender and rim protector, passer, and while not as potent offensively, very effective there.

Yeah, I mean, they're both pretty different players. I do think KAT is better from a raw talent standpoint, but Nurk is far more versatile across the board. I've been pretty unimpressed with KAT's level of play since his 2nd year. He just exploded and looked prime to take the mantle as the new AD, but his seasons since then have been really lackluster in making the improvements from year to year that you expect out of superstar players. You get stars in their late 20's who are still improving their game, I haven't seen any improvement in KAT's game since that 2nd season.

[DusterBuster]

At times I think I'd rather have a guy like Nurkic or Gobert than KAT. Just feel like those guys have more of an impact defensively than KAT does offensively.

I'd rather have Nurkic or Gobert WITH Towns. I just don't think Towns is a C. You pair him with a strong defensive C like a Nurk or Gobert and let Towns be himself as a natural PF and I think you have a recipe for success because it allows you to play so many different ways.

[Sakkreth]

I have him ranked behind Kelly Olynyk, so just outside the top 10 centers.

Olynyk top10?

[Stackey]

[Sakkreth]

1. Embiid
2. Jokic
3. Gobert
4. Towns
5. Gasol
6. Capela
7. Vucevic
8. Sabonis
9. Adams
10. Turner
11. Valanciunas
12. Drummond
13. Nurkic
14. Whiteside
15. Ayton

Didn't include Davis, Ibaka, Horford as it is questionable if they are true centers. Davis would go number 1, Ibaka in the top 10, Horford in the top 15.
Players putting up stats on bad teams is not impressive. Impacting games for winning teams should be more valued.

[TheBonzaiEffect]

1. Embiid
2. Jokic
3. Gobert
4. Towns
5. Gasol
6. Capela
7. Vucevic
8. Sabonis
9. Adams
10. Turner
11. Valanciunas
12. Drummond
13. Nurkic
14. Whiteside
15. Ayton

Didn't include Davis, Ibaka, Horford as it is questionable if they are true centers. Davis would go number 1, Ibaka in the top 10, Horford in the top 15.
Players putting up stats on bad teams is not impressive. Impacting games for winning teams should be more valued.

Is this a list of centers you have a crush on or who has the biggest impact on winning basketball? Because it isn't the latter.

[Sakkreth]

1. Embiid
2. Jokic
3. Gobert
4. Towns
5. Gasol
6. Capela
7. Vucevic
8. Sabonis
9. Adams
10. Turner
11. Valanciunas
12. Drummond
13. Nurkic
14. Whiteside
15. Ayton

Didn't include Davis, Ibaka, Horford as it is questionable if they are true centers. Davis would go number 1, Ibaka in the top 10, Horford in the top 15.
Players putting up stats on bad teams is not impressive. Impacting games for winning teams should be more valued.

Is this a list of centers you have a crush on or who has the biggest impact on winning basketball? Because it isn't the latter.

It is the latter. Give me arguments on what you don't like.

[TheBonzaiEffect]

1. Embiid
2. Jokic
3. Gobert
4. Towns
5. Gasol
6. Capela
7. Vucevic
8. Sabonis
9. Adams
10. Turner
11. Valanciunas
12. Drummond
13. Nurkic
14. Whiteside
15. Ayton

Didn't include Davis, Ibaka, Horford as it is questionable if they are true centers. Davis would go number 1, Ibaka in the top 10, Horford in the top 15.
Players putting up stats on bad teams is not impressive. Impacting games for winning teams should be more valued.

Is this a list of centers you have a crush on or who has the biggest impact on winning basketball? Because it isn't the latter.

It is the latter. Give me arguments on what you don't like.

Emiid: I agree on.
Jokic: I agree on.
Vucevic: I actually change my mind (based on this year), and put him over Nurk.
Gobert: You can make an argument.
Towns: You can make an argument, but it's tenuous. Nurkic has a better BPM, RPM, WS/48, and +/-.

I'm not going to address every center you listed, but after those 4, it's pure delusion/trolling.

Gasol? He's been garbage offensively this year. 105 ORtg, -.5 OBPM, 53% TS. There is zero argument here.

Jonas? Really? You can't include bigs who play 19 MPG off the bench. Also, his BPM, RPM, +/- are inferior to Nurk. Zero argument here.

Drummond? Nurk is superior on O and D. AD is completely inept offensively. 51% TS, -2.7 OBPM, .1 BPM. Literally the only thing he's better at than Nurkic is rebounding. Zero argument.

C'mon, man.

[Dame Lizard]

The fact that Nurk makes this impact in 27mpg is impressive. I'd love to see him get a few more minutes, but not at the expense of this impact.

[Sakkreth]

Is this a list of centers you have a crush on or who has the biggest impact on winning basketball? Because it isn't the latter.

It is the latter. Give me arguments on what you don't like.

Emiid: I agree on.
Jokic: I agree on.
Vucevic: I actually change my mind (based on this year), and put him over Nurk.
Gobert: You can make an argument.
Towns: You can make an argument, but it's tenuous. Nurkic has a better BPM, RPM, WS/48, and +/-.

I'm not going to address every center you listed, but after those 4, it's pure delusion/trolling.

Gasol? He's been garbage offensively this year. 105 ORtg, -.5 OBPM, 53% TS. There is zero argument here.

Jonas? Really? You can't include bigs who play 19 MPG off the bench. Also, his BPM, RPM, +/- are inferior to Nurk. Zero argument here.

Drummond? Nurk is superior on O and D. AD is completely inept offensively. 51% TS, -2.7 OBPM, .1 BPM. Literally the only thing he's better at than Nurkic is rebounding. Zero argument.

C'mon, man.

There is a difference being the focal point on a bad team and a role player on a contender. What do you think Nurkic would contribute on the Raptors if he was there instead of Jonas? You think he would get more mpg? Or do you think he would contribute more in those 19mpg? I don't think either would happen.
Delusion/trolling is putting Nurk above Gobert/KAT.
After taking another look I'll give you Drummond.