If you're the Pelicans, who can offer better package for AD?
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i'm afraid knicks will trade mitchell robinson for davis.
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HEAT33 wrote:Yeah if I’m pelicans I go trade with the Knicks
Draft Zion and Barrett and build around them
Take all young talent the picks and expirings from Knicks
Send AD and try send Holiday or get a 3rd team to take him
With all the young talent you hope 2 or 3 pan out to be good/great players and then you have cap space to sign maybe 1 or 2 stars the next season
Barrett's not good enough to build around and their young talent is mediocre outside of Mitch. Unless 2-3 future firsts are included in that deal I don't see why the Pelicans would entertain that.
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Barrett has become seriously overrated in the last 24 hours
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LKN wrote:I can't believe people think the Lakers package is the best.
Lonzo Ball can't stay healthy and he still can't shoot.
Ingram has blood clot issues.
These guys are also further along in their rookie deals.
#3 pick way more valuable than #4
I think their package is by far the worst.
I think I'd take a Knicks package if I were the NO GM unless they really like Tatum
1. True but it's not like he's going to be the centerpiece of the trade. Even with injury stuff and not being able to shoot, he's a fine complementary asset and at worst can be a high level backup PG. He's not any worse as a secondary piece than guys like Brown or Smith Jr.
2. By all reports after surgery Ingram will be ready for next season, so barring anything unforeseen he should be fine. And he's by far the best asset in any of these deals, like, don't really see how that's even debatable.
3. Ball, Kuzma and Hart are all from the 2017 draft. None of those guys are further along in their rookie deals than Tatum, Smith Jr. or Brown. And Ingram's only a year behind those guys.
4. Not really. This draft is pretty much a crapshoot after Zion, it's not a three man draft, it's a one man draft. If the Pelicans get ,say, Darius Garland instead of RJ Barrett I don't think they would be mad, particularly given Garland actually addresses a position of need.
gh123 wrote:Zion lucky if he gets 18 ppg on decent efficiency. Midget big man is a no-career in NBA. Chuck being the only wonder. Zion is the next Tractor Trailer at best.
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It's obviously Celtics out of those 3.
Lakers have nothing of value. It's so bad that if those "assets" they have wouldn't be on rookie contracts, Lakers would need to add draft picks to move them for expirings. Maybe Hart have some value in him, but you obviously not getting AD for Hart and 4th pick in 3 players draft.
Knicks have 3rd pick, and I could see a small chance NO wanting to pair Zion with his Duke buddy, but that's a stretch.
Celtics have enough assets obviously, but they have their own issues now, and I'm not even sure they go for AD or that AD commits to stay with them.
I wouldn't be surprised if some dark horse like LAC emerges and snatches AD, or even AD stays and ultimately decides his future next offseason.
Lakers have nothing of value. It's so bad that if those "assets" they have wouldn't be on rookie contracts, Lakers would need to add draft picks to move them for expirings. Maybe Hart have some value in him, but you obviously not getting AD for Hart and 4th pick in 3 players draft.
Knicks have 3rd pick, and I could see a small chance NO wanting to pair Zion with his Duke buddy, but that's a stretch.
Celtics have enough assets obviously, but they have their own issues now, and I'm not even sure they go for AD or that AD commits to stay with them.
I wouldn't be surprised if some dark horse like LAC emerges and snatches AD, or even AD stays and ultimately decides his future next offseason.
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Best2EverDoIt wrote:I don't see Boston trading for him period. Even if Kyrie were to stay, they arent going to give up Tatum, Brown and Smart for him let alone 3 first rounders to boot lol. I wouldn't even trade Tatum straight up for him honestly.
What the Celtics have to give up I would concede is in dispute, but don't kid yourself if Kyrie stays; Celtics will push hard for AD.
To be frank, I argue Lottery night was a plus for the Celtics; Knicks didn't get #1 pick and can't trade it for AD, the Celtics keep the Memphis pick to possibly trade for AD, and despite the Pelicans getting the #1 pick, AD still wants to be traded.
Not saying this assures AD's coming to Boston, or that even Kyrie stays, but some of the stars that had to align did so.
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I think the most valuable asset in pool are the #3 pick (Knicks) and Tatum (Bos).
It's true that the Lakers offer got better with the #4th pick, but aside from Kuz, and possibly a healthy Ingram it doesn't look too appealing. Ball is worthless, he's practically a bust and injury prone to boot.
If I were the Pels I'd go with the Boston door. Tatum, Brown, Smart, #14 Pick, Memphis 2020, Bos 2021, and Bos 2023. If they can get more future 1st's then they should take it and rake Boston for as much as humanly possible.
It's true that the Lakers offer got better with the #4th pick, but aside from Kuz, and possibly a healthy Ingram it doesn't look too appealing. Ball is worthless, he's practically a bust and injury prone to boot.
If I were the Pels I'd go with the Boston door. Tatum, Brown, Smart, #14 Pick, Memphis 2020, Bos 2021, and Bos 2023. If they can get more future 1st's then they should take it and rake Boston for as much as humanly possible.
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Knicks are not really part of the conversation IMO. Celtics and Lakers can both make strong offers. Celtics have more parts to deal with but also think Ainge is going to offer only two of Smart, Brown, Tatum. Also not too impressed with the #4 pick in this years draft. I like the potential of the Memphis pick more as a GM on the rebuild. So Celtics have the better offer to make, just depends on how much Ainge wants to spend.
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Funcrusher wrote:LKN wrote:I can't believe people think the Lakers package is the best.
Lonzo Ball can't stay healthy and he still can't shoot.
Ingram has blood clot issues.
These guys are also further along in their rookie deals.
#3 pick way more valuable than #4
I think their package is by far the worst.
I think I'd take a Knicks package if I were the NO GM unless they really like Tatum
1. True but it's not like he's going to be the centerpiece of the trade. Even with injury stuff and not being able to shoot, he's a fine complementary asset and at worst can be a high level backup PG. He's not any worse as a secondary piece than guys like Brown or Smith Jr.
2. By all reports after surgery Ingram will be ready for next season, so barring anything unforeseen he should be fine. And he's by far the best asset in any of these deals, like, don't really see how that's even debatable.
3. Ball, Kuzma and Hart are all from the 2017 draft. None of those guys are further along in their rookie deals than Tatum, Smith Jr. or Brown. And Ingram's only a year behind those guys.
4. Not really. This draft is pretty much a crapshoot after Zion, it's not a three man draft, it's a one man draft. If the Pelicans get ,say, Darius Garland instead of RJ Barrett I don't think they would be mad, particularly given Garland actually addresses a position of need.
Lonzo Ball is basically worthless at this point. Let's be real.
And the majority of replies here suggests that Tatum is the overwhelming most valuable asset. Ingram and Tatum were close, but Ingram's clots are a huge question mark moving forward ala Chris Bosh.
To suggest that Smith Jr and Brown have the same value as Lonzo Ball is the delusion of a true Lakers homer- you are completely off with that one man.
One day Marcus Smart will be defensive player of the year, mark my words.
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robbie84 wrote:Funcrusher wrote:LKN wrote:I can't believe people think the Lakers package is the best.
Lonzo Ball can't stay healthy and he still can't shoot.
Ingram has blood clot issues.
These guys are also further along in their rookie deals.
#3 pick way more valuable than #4
I think their package is by far the worst.
I think I'd take a Knicks package if I were the NO GM unless they really like Tatum
1. True but it's not like he's going to be the centerpiece of the trade. Even with injury stuff and not being able to shoot, he's a fine complementary asset and at worst can be a high level backup PG. He's not any worse as a secondary piece than guys like Brown or Smith Jr.
2. By all reports after surgery Ingram will be ready for next season, so barring anything unforeseen he should be fine. And he's by far the best asset in any of these deals, like, don't really see how that's even debatable.
3. Ball, Kuzma and Hart are all from the 2017 draft. None of those guys are further along in their rookie deals than Tatum, Smith Jr. or Brown. And Ingram's only a year behind those guys.
4. Not really. This draft is pretty much a crapshoot after Zion, it's not a three man draft, it's a one man draft. If the Pelicans get ,say, Darius Garland instead of RJ Barrett I don't think they would be mad, particularly given Garland actually addresses a position of need.
Lonzo Ball is basically worthless at this point. Let's be real.
And the majority of replies here suggests that Tatum is the overwhelming most valuable asset. Ingram and Tatum were close, but Ingram's clots are a huge question mark moving forward ala Chris Bosh.
To suggest that Smith Jr and Brown have the same value as Lonzo Ball is the delusion of a true Lakers homer- you are completely off with that one man.
Yeah you're right. DSJ is the worst of the 3. No defense, no playmaking, just a chucker who doesn't provide anything else. DSJ shouldn't be in the discussion.
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Boston. Not because I think Tatum and Brown are future superstars or something, I just think they slot in better with Zion in a line up. The picks are just a bonus to me.
Jrue-Brown-Tatum-Zion-Whoever looks good to me.
Jrue-Brown-Tatum-Zion-Whoever looks good to me.
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People need to stop posting NYK trades with their pick, Robinson, and the Mavs 2021 1st.
They cant do that because they either ruin their chance to sign 2 max guys if they for trade him now or wont be able to match salaries after they sign 2 guys.
The Knicks have to offer basically everyone they have under contract just to match salaries assuming they want to form a big 3. I heard they have to wait for August for some reason too but I can recall why. Everyone from Mitch, Trier, Knox, Frank, dsj all have to go just to match so let's stop posting trades that can never actually happen.
They cant do that because they either ruin their chance to sign 2 max guys if they for trade him now or wont be able to match salaries after they sign 2 guys.
The Knicks have to offer basically everyone they have under contract just to match salaries assuming they want to form a big 3. I heard they have to wait for August for some reason too but I can recall why. Everyone from Mitch, Trier, Knox, Frank, dsj all have to go just to match so let's stop posting trades that can never actually happen.
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Celtics, but I can’t see them offering that because Kyrie is leaving barring a big 180 soon..
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Best package is Tatum and other assets
Close 2nd is Mitchell Robinson, 3rd pick, and other assets.
The Lakers don't even come close, in my opinion. It's a 3 player draft, and their young players are underwhelming
Close 2nd is Mitchell Robinson, 3rd pick, and other assets.
The Lakers don't even come close, in my opinion. It's a 3 player draft, and their young players are underwhelming
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I think the Knicks
I think they silly enough to be willing to take on Holidays contract while giving them Robinson
A core of Zion, Barrett, Robinson is a great young core with huge potential....
Sign 2 max contract the following year
If 2 of the 3 potential young players pan out, then they would be a good team IF they can land 2 great max players.
I think Barrett and Zion can be a great duo
I think they silly enough to be willing to take on Holidays contract while giving them Robinson
A core of Zion, Barrett, Robinson is a great young core with huge potential....
Sign 2 max contract the following year
If 2 of the 3 potential young players pan out, then they would be a good team IF they can land 2 great max players.
I think Barrett and Zion can be a great duo
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Boston. I think people are overreacting to their loss to the #1 seed in the east and entire league and Tatum and Brown not having a great series, along with the team as a whole.
I like not only Tatum, but also Brown, over every current NBA player the Knicks and Lakers could offer, as well as R.J. Barrett and whoever would go #4 in the draft.
I like not only Tatum, but also Brown, over every current NBA player the Knicks and Lakers could offer, as well as R.J. Barrett and whoever would go #4 in the draft.
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You’d think that the Pelicans would demand the Lakers somehow turn pick 4 into RJ Barrett if they were going to accept their package.
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You mean Ja. We most likely aren't sending him to LA, we don't want Lonzo or Ingram. We don't want #4. If yall can flip Lonzo, BI, and #4 for #2, then you'd probably have a deal.crows2 wrote:You’d think that the Pelicans would demand the Lakers somehow turn pick 4 into RJ Barrett if they were going to accept their package.
Knicks and Celtics have the better offers.
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I've been saying that he will go to the Lakers since LeBron signed there. Everything that happened in the lottery points to things going in that direction.
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Knicks? Come on man Kevin Knox? Really guys enough already. On what planet is their package better. Future picks from Boston? Really? They are crap picks.
Lakers offer the best combination of talent and picks.
Celtics they have decent young talent and mediocre picks.
New York on decent pick and mediocre young talent.
There other teams like Denver that can trump a NY offer.
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Lakers offer the best combination of talent and picks.
Celtics they have decent young talent and mediocre picks.
New York on decent pick and mediocre young talent.
There other teams like Denver that can trump a NY offer.
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