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Context wrote:Im not trading Mitch...especially because we dont have to...The best laker package is #4, and Kuz and if Boston wants to give them all
their assets for a 1 year AD- on a team without kyrie- go ahead- that works out for the Knicks...I said this at the deadline NO missed they're opportunity when they could have gotten everything from the lakers- they wont get that type of value after the season...
igorbianch wrote:Context wrote:Im not trading Mitch...especially because we dont have to...The best laker package is #4, and Kuz and if Boston wants to give them all
their assets for a 1 year AD- on a team without kyrie- go ahead- that works out for the Knicks...I said this at the deadline NO missed they're opportunity when they could have gotten everything from the lakers- they wont get that type of value after the season...
Lmao. Theres 0% chance you get AD without throwing Mitchell in the package.
coldfish wrote:I would build around Zion / AD. Mitchell and the future bust that is RJ doesn't come close to that.
The-Power wrote:igorbianch wrote:The-Power wrote:You bet it is. At least in terms of talent. In terms of fit, Barrett would not be my favorite choice with them.
Shooting is a problem.
You also still need a PG that can create and shoot well, i.e. a primary creator and a shooter simply because that is needed with that trio. Such a PG is unlikely to be a low-usage player. With the way Barrett has been playing thus far in his career, that could easily lead to Zion being groomed as the third option when he should at least become the second option (and perhaps first down the road, we will see about that). With Zion and Mitchell, I'd want a high-level PnR Guard and fill the rest of the starting 5 with good shooters.
Context wrote:igorbianch wrote:Context wrote:Im not trading Mitch...especially because we dont have to...The best laker package is #4, and Kuz and if Boston wants to give them all
their assets for a 1 year AD- on a team without kyrie- go ahead- that works out for the Knicks...I said this at the deadline NO missed they're opportunity when they could have gotten everything from the lakers- they wont get that type of value after the season...
Lmao. Theres 0% chance you get AD without throwing Mitchell in the package.
IF you're right- I could careless...You happen to be talking to a knick fan who doesnt even want him...Shinny toys dont get me excited...However, the fact remains that AD holds leverage and he can help the knicks if they want AD...You're just salty...
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:igorbianch wrote:The-Power wrote:You bet it is. At least in terms of talent. In terms of fit, Barrett would not be my favorite choice with them.
Shooting is a problem.
Trade Jrue for a lotto pick and draft Garland. That would be a core worth watching.
igorbianch wrote:Context wrote:igorbianch wrote:
Lmao. Theres 0% chance you get AD without throwing Mitchell in the package.
IF you're right- I could careless...You happen to be talking to a knick fan who doesnt even want him...Shinny toys dont get me excited...However, the fact remains that AD holds leverage and he can help the knicks if they want AD...You're just salty...
Being realistic is very different than being salty.
Context wrote:igorbianch wrote:Context wrote:IF you're right- I could careless...You happen to be talking to a knick fan who doesnt even want him...Shinny toys dont get me excited...However, the fact remains that AD holds leverage and he can help the knicks if they want AD...You're just salty...
Being realistic is very different than being salty.
Realistic? We have what Boston doesn't have- a team that AD wants to sign an extension with.. You want to talk "realism" I find it hard to believe that Ainge will give all of his assets away after losing Irving and not getting an extension from AD. Therefore, based on that
we are ahead. The lakers only have Kuzman and the 4 pick- we have tons more assets that do not include Mitch...Thats "reality" for you
BlazersBroncos wrote:Ya, Mitchell is 100% going to be part of any AD deal. He is miles and miles NYK's best prospect. And AD is worth far more than #3 in this not-top-heavy draft.
I don't love the RJ and Zion fit either, but the talent is too much to pass up. You pair them, and hope they grow together.
igorbianch wrote:Context wrote:igorbianch wrote:
Being realistic is very different than being salty.
Realistic? We have what Boston doesn't have- a team that AD wants to sign an extension with.. You want to talk "realism" I find it hard to believe that Ainge will give all of his assets away after losing Irving and not getting an extension from AD. Therefore, based on that
we are ahead. The lakers only have Kuzman and the 4 pick- we have tons more assets that do not include Mitch...Thats "reality" for you
Ingram/#4/Lonzo/Kuzma is way better than Knox/Dennis Smith/Frank/#3.
As far as the basketball situation goes, the Pels having landed the right to select Zion, are now in a better position than any team in the league as long term future goes. The Pelicans just hired David Griffin, who was the executive who was able to put a championship team around Lebron in Cleveland. He knows how to grow a positive relationship with a superstar and he understands the weight of having a superstar on your roster. Griffin will have to figure out the Anthony Davis situation, but it’s kind of a no lose decision for him. He’ll either trade AD for a huge haul in the off season or keep Davis until the deadline in hopes of convincing him that he should stay together long term with Zion. If Griffin fulfills Davis’ trade request to go play in New York; Griffin will have the opportunity to reunite Zion with his college roommate and best friend in RJ Barrett whilst picking up young pieces like Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, and future picks along with him. He can then look to move Jrue Holiday for even more assets to add to the treasure trove. And as long as no long term money is picked up along the way, the Pels will be on the books for like $30 million in the 2021 off season with a stacked free agent class. So the Pels will have the league’s best young assets to go along with a bajillion dollars in cap space. If Griffin convinces AD to stay in New Orleans, he keeps Holiday, gets to create the leagues most exciting front court, and then use the Pelicans’ cap space to sign veterans who compliment their stars and will help push them into the title picture. Personally I’d like to see him start from scratch and build the team with a clean slate. I want the Marvel Cinematic Universe version of the rebuild, not the rushed DC version.
Context wrote:coldfish wrote:I would build around Zion / AD. Mitchell and the future bust that is RJ doesn't come close to that.
You cant build around (AD) a player who doesnt want to be there...
igorbianch wrote:Context wrote:Im not trading Mitch...especially because we dont have to...The best laker package is #4, and Kuz and if Boston wants to give them all
their assets for a 1 year AD- on a team without kyrie- go ahead- that works out for the Knicks...I said this at the deadline NO missed they're opportunity when they could have gotten everything from the lakers- they wont get that type of value after the season...
Lmao. Theres 0% chance you get AD without throwing Mitchell in the package.
Context wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:Ya, Mitchell is 100% going to be part of any AD deal. He is miles and miles NYK's best prospect. And AD is worth far more than #3 in this not-top-heavy draft.
I don't love the RJ and Zion fit either, but the talent is too much to pass up. You pair them, and hope they grow together.
that would be true if "leverage" didnt exist...but it does...and finally the Knick have it and all of a sudden bias fans forgot how
to assess the obvious...
DreamTeam09 wrote:Context wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:Ya, Mitchell is 100% going to be part of any AD deal. He is miles and miles NYK's best prospect. And AD is worth far more than #3 in this not-top-heavy draft.
I don't love the RJ and Zion fit either, but the talent is too much to pass up. You pair them, and hope they grow together.
that would be true if "leverage" didnt exist...but it does...and finally the Knick have it and all of a sudden bias fans forgot how
to assess the obvious...
How on earth do the knicks have leverage if AD is not a FA / Pelicans can trade him anywhere, to any of the other suitors. Then NY would have to wait a year and hope n rely on FA
Again, the lakers had "leverage" when AD said he wanted to go there and look how that turned out.
coldfish wrote:Context wrote:coldfish wrote:I would build around Zion / AD. Mitchell and the future bust that is RJ doesn't come close to that.
You cant build around (AD) a player who doesnt want to be there...
He hasn't played next to Zion yet. He'll change his mind. Pels clear space for a max deal and they got Jrue / Butler or someone / Zion / AD. That's better than what he could have in NY.
