Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3

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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#41 » by Coeur » Sat May 18, 2019 2:55 am

infinite11285 wrote:Who’s on the rest of the roster with KD, AD, and KI? Is there any cap left?

Not that there is a chance they put these 3 together. But even if they did

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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#42 » by James40 » Sat May 18, 2019 2:57 am

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Shock Defeat wrote:Is it just me or would the potential Knicks big 3 be way better than the warriors?

KD > Curry
Kyrie > KLay
AD > Dray

Knicks could be championship favorites next year. Just add a bunch of ring chasing vets.



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Believe it or not, according to Vegas the Knicks are 15-1 favorites to win the NBA Championship next year, the Raptors are 30–1.

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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#43 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat May 18, 2019 3:01 am

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knicks512 wrote:And assuming all goes perfectly, we don't have a Draymond Green. I still think we'd absolutely be in the conversation, but that's a big piece to be missing.


...you'd have an AD?


Just to clarify since apparently you couldn't glean this off my post:

Big 4 > Big 3

I do think our 3 would be better, but the 4th makes a big difference.


Sorry but who's the big 4 on the warriors assuming knicks snake the cupcake?
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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#44 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat May 18, 2019 3:01 am

James40 wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:Is it just me or would the potential Knicks big 3 be way better than the warriors?

KD > Curry
Kyrie > KLay
AD > Dray

Knicks could be championship favorites next year. Just add a bunch of ring chasing vets.



Wat


Believe it or not, according to Vegas the Knicks are 15-1 favorites to win the NBA Championship next year, the Raptors are 30–1.

Someone there knows something.


Knicks and raptors have approximately the same odds for this years championship IMHO.
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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#45 » by drekwins » Sat May 18, 2019 3:07 am

dautjazz wrote:Could they even afford 3 players that will command north of 30M each? AD makes 27M next season, what is NY going to send to match salaries in a trade? They got under $30M on the books for next season (not counting Noah), and they don't have anything enticing enough to take on all the Knicks players to even up the salaries. Not to mention they probably wouldnt have the roster spots to accommodate a trade like this. What was the last major free agent to sign in NY? In the last 25 years it was Allan Houston and Amare Stoudemire (14 years apart). Maybe they get one or two free agents to sign, but the likelihood of this all happening is VERY low.


Yes they could.. from a cap persepctive, it works. But the order of the transactions makes a difference. If they trade for AD first, Kyrie and/or Durant would have to sacrifice 1-2 million off their deals. If they sign KD and Kyrie first, no sacrifice is required.
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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#46 » by ITGM » Sat May 18, 2019 3:12 am

infinite11285 wrote:Who’s on the rest of the roster with KD, AD, and KI? Is there any cap left?


DeAndre Jordan (for the MLE),Trier, Dotson...
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Post#47 » by GregOden » Sat May 18, 2019 3:15 am

KD and Kyrie are both ball stoppers, is AD gonna play PG?
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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#48 » by dautjazz » Sat May 18, 2019 3:29 am

ITGM wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:Who’s on the rest of the roster with KD, AD, and KI? Is there any cap left?


DeAndre Jordan (for the MLE),Trier, Dotson...
DJ just averaged 11/13, and he'll be 31 this upcoming season, I doubt he doesn't try to get one more pay day while he can.
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im 20, and i did grow up watching MJ play in the 90's.
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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#49 » by ThumbsUpBaby » Sat May 18, 2019 3:33 am

Threads like this will make Knicks fans have a major heartbreak, even worse than a sudden break-up, when none of these FAs/players are with the team. Zion is already out of the picture, who's next?

Jinx thread at its best :lol:
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Post#50 » by Ice Trae » Sat May 18, 2019 3:35 am

Kyrie going to the Lakers tho
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Post#51 » by dautjazz » Sat May 18, 2019 3:45 am

drekwins wrote:
dautjazz wrote:Could they even afford 3 players that will command north of 30M each? AD makes 27M next season, what is NY going to send to match salaries in a trade? They got under $30M on the books for next season (not counting Noah), and they don't have anything enticing enough to take on all the Knicks players to even up the salaries. Not to mention they probably wouldnt have the roster spots to accommodate a trade like this. What was the last major free agent to sign in NY? In the last 25 years it was Allan Houston and Amare Stoudemire (14 years apart). Maybe they get one or two free agents to sign, but the likelihood of this all happening is VERY low.


Yes they could.. from a cap persepctive, it works. But the order of the transactions makes a difference. If they trade for AD first, Kyrie and/or Durant would have to sacrifice 1-2 million off their deals. If they sign KD and Kyrie first, no sacrifice is required.


The Pelicans turned down the entire Lakers roster (minus Lebron) for AD midway last season, I doubt they will doing the Knicks any favors. The Pelicans don't HAVE to make a trade, they can play it out and see if AD has a change of mine, and if Zion is the real deal from day one, then they could become a very good team real quick. The Pelicans were 30-36 through their first 66 games last year, that's with AD's injury and his trade request, if AD weren't on a minutes restriction and with Zion, they would be a 50-60 win team. That could be enough to change AD's mind, we've seen stranger things.

Now if the Pelicans go the route of trading AD, I'm positive there are better partners out there. There are obviously the Celtics rumors. They got a plethora of young talent and picks they can throw at the Pelicans. The Knicks don't have a package like Tatum, Brown, Smart, and two first round picks to offer.
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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#52 » by drekwins » Sat May 18, 2019 3:57 am

dautjazz wrote:
drekwins wrote:
dautjazz wrote:Could they even afford 3 players that will command north of 30M each? AD makes 27M next season, what is NY going to send to match salaries in a trade? They got under $30M on the books for next season (not counting Noah), and they don't have anything enticing enough to take on all the Knicks players to even up the salaries. Not to mention they probably wouldnt have the roster spots to accommodate a trade like this. What was the last major free agent to sign in NY? In the last 25 years it was Allan Houston and Amare Stoudemire (14 years apart). Maybe they get one or two free agents to sign, but the likelihood of this all happening is VERY low.


Yes they could.. from a cap persepctive, it works. But the order of the transactions makes a difference. If they trade for AD first, Kyrie and/or Durant would have to sacrifice 1-2 million off their deals. If they sign KD and Kyrie first, no sacrifice is required.


The Pelicans turned down the entire Lakers roster (minus Lebron) for AD midway last season, I doubt they will doing the Knicks any favors. The Pelicans don't HAVE to make a trade, they can play it out and see if AD has a change of mine, and if Zion is the real deal from day one, then they could become a very good team real quick. The Pelicans were 30-36 through their first 66 games last year, that's with AD's injury and his trade request, if AD weren't on a minutes restriction and with Zion, they would be a 50-60 win team. That could be enough to change AD's mind, we've seen stranger things.

Now if the Pelicans go the route of trading AD, I'm positive there are better partners out there. There are obviously the Celtics rumors. They got a plethora of young talent and picks they can throw at the Pelicans. The Knicks don't have a package like Tatum, Brown, Smart, and two first round picks to offer.


Two simple thoughts:

First, they don't have to do the Knicks any favors. There are a lot of holes in the LAL offer.. most notably, Ingram (extension, blood clots, 22 years old and it's very questionable how good he is). In addition, Lonzo and Kuzma both indicated that they do not want to play in that market. Barrett is the more attractive than anyone that the LAL have to offer, by far, and would potentially lead to NO having a better shot of retaining Zion for a second extension (which couldn't be done with CP3, Baron or AD).

Second, Boston is in a very different situation than before. Their guys are all alluding to massive issues within the locker room. Kyrie looks like he is 100% gone. AD has said that he wont resign with Boston. Ainge is stubborn but even he knows that without Kyrie, they don't have a shot of keeping him. Are they really going to let Tatum and Brown go without a commitment from Kyrie OR if he has already indicated that he's leaving? I just can't see it. They'd go from having the most assets in the league to none within 1 year.

It all comes down to the FACT that AD's agent stated that he'd sign an extension with NY, LAL, LAC and MIL. That gives those 4 teams no reservations in trading for him. Anyone else not on that list has to proceed with caution and are unlikely to commit as much as LAL or NY. The Knicks have a lot to offer. If you don't like all of the young guys, keep in mind that they could add as many as 5 1st round picks to the deal... they have 2 extra first rounders from Dallas.
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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#53 » by freethedevil » Sat May 18, 2019 4:25 am

yeah i don't know how spending all your cap space on three guys who can't run an offence is going to work out
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Re: Knicks big 3 vs GS big 3 

Post#54 » by NY 567 » Sat May 18, 2019 4:28 am

No one is coming here. Our fanbase is going to be very shocked and sad when we get Terry Rozier and Brook Lopez

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