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Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:07 am
by LipSkinMatter
reload141 wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
reload141 wrote:
SO much this. But, he wants to go home so really nothing more we could do.


Nobody in their right mind wants to play with a max'd Gordon Heyward and Al Horford. Sorry, your boy Ainge dropped the ball.


Sorry but you really have NO idea what you're talking about.


It's all good, I feel your pain. My baseball team has handed out tons of bad contracts the last 3-4 years and it cost us a serious run at Harper last off season. No need to be in denial that the Heyward and Horford deals were buns. That is peak homerism right there.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:12 am
by The_Hater
LipSkinMatter wrote:
reload141 wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
Nobody in their right mind wants to play with a max'd Gordon Heyward and Al Horford. Sorry, your boy Ainge dropped the ball.


Sorry but you really have NO idea what you're talking about.


It's all good, I feel your pain. My baseball team has handed out tons of bad contracts the last 3-4 years and it cost us a serious run at Harper last off season. No need to be in denial that the Heyward and Horford deals were buns. That is peak homerism right there.


The Horford contract isn’t that bad, he’s a grossly underrated player and a winner. They Celtics would have absolutely no problem trading him. Hayward would be very difficult to move however.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:16 am
by jfs1000d
Horford contract is worth every penny. Hayward got hurt. Wtf ya gonna do?




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Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:22 am
by LipSkinMatter
The_Hater wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
reload141 wrote:
Sorry but you really have NO idea what you're talking about.


It's all good, I feel your pain. My baseball team has handed out tons of bad contracts the last 3-4 years and it cost us a serious run at Harper last off season. No need to be in denial that the Heyward and Horford deals were buns. That is peak homerism right there.


The Horford contract isn’t that bad, he’s a grossly underrated player and a winner. They Celtics would have absolutely no problem trading him. Hayward would be very difficult to move however.


So paying somebody the max when he isn't even top 10 at his position (and his position is de valued to begin with) is fine because he's a "winner"? If they could move him the only reason is because he is expiring.

jfs1000d wrote:Horford contract is worth every penny. Hayward got hurt. Wtf ya gonna do?




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He wasn't worth it when he signed the deal.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:25 am
by MrTwister
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Take it FWIW.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:31 am
by The_Hater
LipSkinMatter wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
It's all good, I feel your pain. My baseball team has handed out tons of bad contracts the last 3-4 years and it cost us a serious run at Harper last off season. No need to be in denial that the Heyward and Horford deals were buns. That is peak homerism right there.


The Horford contract isn’t that bad, he’s a grossly underrated player and a winner. They Celtics would have absolutely no problem trading him. Hayward would be very difficult to move however.


So paying somebody the max when he isn't even top 10 at his position (and his position is de valued to begin with) is fine because he's a "winner"? If they could move him the only reason is because he is expiring.

jfs1000d wrote:Horford contract is worth every penny. Hayward got hurt. Wtf ya gonna do?




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He wasn't worth it when he signed the deal.


Horford doesn’t make the max.

Horford is definitely a top 10 Center and probably top 5-6. Like I said, a lot of people underrate him just like you’re doing right now. His ability to shoot, pass, guard all over the floor and make winning plays make him invaluable in today’s league.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:39 am
by anotherhomer
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That's awful

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:40 am
by LipSkinMatter
The_Hater wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
The Horford contract isn’t that bad, he’s a grossly underrated player and a winner. They Celtics would have absolutely no problem trading him. Hayward would be very difficult to move however.


So paying somebody the max when he isn't even top 10 at his position (and his position is de valued to begin with) is fine because he's a "winner"? If they could move him the only reason is because he is expiring.

jfs1000d wrote:Horford contract is worth every penny. Hayward got hurt. Wtf ya gonna do?




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He wasn't worth it when he signed the deal.


Horford doesn’t make the max.

Horford is definitely a top 10 Center and probably top 5-6. Like I said, a lot of people underrate him just like you’re doing right now. His ability to shoot, pass, guard all over the floor and make winning plays make him invaluable in today’s league.


Among centers he is 18th in PER and 14th in WS/48. His position is de valued to begin with. You don't pay that guy 30 mil. He's a good player who I respect don't get me wrong, but highly overpaid.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:51 am
by Brandon_Roy
Never ever should Horford be using up 30% of your cap. He can be underrated among fans but still overpaid.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:55 am
by bulliedog8
RakimAbdulJabar wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:
Metallikid wrote:Anyone think the Bulls might try to get in on this? Maybe Porter plus picks and go with a AD/Lauri//Dunn core? You could do worse.


I wish the bulls would and also that AD would re-sign.

Bulls: AD, Solomon hill

Pelicans: 7, Wendell, valentine, Dunn, and 38


1. The Pelicans would laugh and hang up

2. The salaries are at least 20 million off from matching such a trade


Fine...... I will add Felicio then :(

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:56 am
by The_Hater
LipSkinMatter wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
So paying somebody the max when he isn't even top 10 at his position (and his position is de valued to begin with) is fine because he's a "winner"? If they could move him the only reason is because he is expiring.



He wasn't worth it when he signed the deal.


Horford doesn’t make the max.

Horford is definitely a top 10 Center and probably top 5-6. Like I said, a lot of people underrate him just like you’re doing right now. His ability to shoot, pass, guard all over the floor and make winning plays make him invaluable in today’s league.


Among centers he is 18th in PER and 14th in WS/48. His position is de valued to begin with. You don't pay that guy 30 mil. He's a good player who I respect don't get me wrong, but highly overpaid.


The first stat you pulled out was PER?

Anyways no point in arguing this further but I’m very certain that the GM’s around the league understand his true value beyond PER. (And don’t think I didn’t notice that you ignored every other advanced stat other than the 2 where he ranked outside the top 10).

The Celtics would have zero problems trading him and getting value back, you obviously think otherwise.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:57 am
by mercgold3
What the hell AD wants?

I mean, i love Lebron, hes still the best (or second) player in the world, but got dammit, what the hell the Lakers have more than the Celtics for AD saying that hes only staying one year there?

I dont even like the Celtics that much, but this looks like an arrogant move. LA Shinning, nothing more.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:57 am
by reload141
LipSkinMatter wrote:
reload141 wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
Nobody in their right mind wants to play with a max'd Gordon Heyward and Al Horford. Sorry, your boy Ainge dropped the ball.


Sorry but you really have NO idea what you're talking about.


It's all good, I feel your pain. My baseball team has handed out tons of bad contracts the last 3-4 years and it cost us a serious run at Harper last off season. No need to be in denial that the Heyward and Horford deals were buns. That is peak homerism right there.


Can’t even spell Hayward. Nice try.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:04 pm
by RakimAbdulJabar
bulliedog8 wrote:
RakimAbdulJabar wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:
I wish the bulls would and also that AD would re-sign.

Bulls: AD, Solomon hill

Pelicans: 7, Wendell, valentine, Dunn, and 38


1. The Pelicans would laugh and hang up

2. The salaries are at least 20 million off from matching such a trade


Fine...... I will add Felicio then :(


You're still not close to matching salaries and just made the trade worse for Pelicans

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:07 pm
by bulliedog8
RakimAbdulJabar wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:
RakimAbdulJabar wrote:
1. The Pelicans would laugh and hang up

2. The salaries are at least 20 million off from matching such a trade


Fine...... I will add Felicio then :(


You're still not close to matching salaries and just made the trade worse for Pelicans


I was joking about Felicio.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:12 pm
by LipSkinMatter
The_Hater wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Horford doesn’t make the max.

Horford is definitely a top 10 Center and probably top 5-6. Like I said, a lot of people underrate him just like you’re doing right now. His ability to shoot, pass, guard all over the floor and make winning plays make him invaluable in today’s league.


Among centers he is 18th in PER and 14th in WS/48. His position is de valued to begin with. You don't pay that guy 30 mil. He's a good player who I respect don't get me wrong, but highly overpaid.


The first stat you pulled out was PER?

Anyways no point in arguing this further but I’m very certain that the GM’s around the league understand his true value beyond PER. (And don’t think I didn’t notice that you ignored every other advanced stat other than the 2 where he ranked outside the top 10).

The Celtics would have zero problems trading him and getting value back, you obviously think otherwise.


How many advanced stats would you like me to list? Only the ones that favor him? Tell me what else you want me to take into account, because every time I post huge amounts of numbers people usually ignore the post so I didn't want to do analysis paralysis.

reload141 wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
reload141 wrote:
Sorry but you really have NO idea what you're talking about.


It's all good, I feel your pain. My baseball team has handed out tons of bad contracts the last 3-4 years and it cost us a serious run at Harper last off season. No need to be in denial that the Heyward and Horford deals were buns. That is peak homerism right there.


Can’t even spell Hayward. Nice try.


My bad, keep getting the spellings confused because of the baseball player Jason Heyward who spells it with an e.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:20 pm
by JC28
mercgold3 wrote:What the hell AD wants?

I mean, i love Lebron, hes still the best (or second) player in the world, but got dammit, what the hell the Lakers have more than the Celtics for AD saying that hes only staying one year there?

I dont even like the Celtics that much, but this looks like an arrogant move. LA Shinning, nothing more.


You answered your own question the Lakers have Lebron, and Klutch, in ADs ear. He's had them in his ear for at least a couple of seasons now. This really isn't as much about AD wanting to sign with the Lakers as it is AD wanting to be with LBJ. AD has allowed him to be a bit of a pawn, willingly, in all of this but that's his personality.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:20 pm
by Richard Miller
MrTwister wrote:
Take it FWIW.


The account looks bs though. But stranger things have happened I guess.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:22 pm
by The_Hater
LipSkinMatter wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
Among centers he is 18th in PER and 14th in WS/48. His position is de valued to begin with. You don't pay that guy 30 mil. He's a good player who I respect don't get me wrong, but highly overpaid.


The first stat you pulled out was PER?

Anyways no point in arguing this further but I’m very certain that the GM’s around the league understand his true value beyond PER. (And don’t think I didn’t notice that you ignored every other advanced stat other than the 2 where he ranked outside the top 10).

The Celtics would have zero problems trading him and getting value back, you obviously think otherwise.


How many advanced stats would you like me to list? Only the ones that favor him? Tell me what else you want me to take into account, because every time I post huge amounts of numbers people usually ignore the post so I didn't want to do analysis paralysis..


How about we start by not acting like it’s 2005 and treating PER like its an important number.

Re: Woj: Celtics and Lakers Engaged with Pelicans on Anthony Davis Trade

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:25 pm
by Mr Loggins
TMU wrote:What more does Kyrie want? Ainge has allowed him full control of the franchise and is also doing his best to acquire talents to help him. Leaving the Celtics would be a mistake imo.



the kick in the nuts is he’s (seemingly) going to Brooklyn, the franchise who’s linked with Boston.

sooo ironic that despite taking all brooklyn’s draft picks, it’s the Nets who could be in a better spot the year after the picks are done