Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc)

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Re: Lakers still have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#41 » by SlowPaced » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:32 pm

Method28 wrote:I don't like the Kemba fit. I love Kemba but that Lakers team would need a shooter.

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Umm, Kemba is a very good shooter. Have you not watched him play since 2015?

'16 - 37.1% 3PT on 6.0 3PA
'17 - 39.9% 3PT on 7.6 3PA
'18 - 38.4% 3PT on 7.5 3PA
'19 - 35.6% 3PT on 8.9 3PA

For reference, these are Damian Lillard's numbers in the same time period:

'16 - 37.5% 3PT on 8.1 3PA
'17 - 37.0% 3PT on 7.7 3PA
'18 - 36.1% 3PT on 8.6 3PA
'19 - 36.9% 3PT on 8.0 3PA
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#42 » by Egg Nog » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:34 pm

KHRICH wrote:Hilarious to see lebron nut huggers celebrate this but hate warriors for assembling a monster


I'm not celebrating this, but...a team that missed the playoffs trading assets for an MVP-caliber player is pretty different than a 73-win team signing an MVP-caliber player without losing any major talent.
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#43 » by Madhouse » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:36 pm

Optms wrote:No one wants KD btw except for the Knicks but then again they're desperate for anyone

The KD we all knew is officially gone. He'll come back in 2021 as a shell of his former self. The achilles tear on a guy who utilizes mobility the way KD does is a death sentences in this game unfortunately.

KD will re-sign and return as an Allstar but not MVP. He'll drop 23-24 ppg as dirk double.
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#44 » by SlowPaced » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:36 pm

KHRICH wrote:Hilarious to see lebron nut huggers celebrate this but hate warriors for assembling a monster


Trades aren't the same thing as a FA signing. I think most people give KD **** for what he did rather than the Warriors anyway.
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#45 » by Optms » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:38 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Optms wrote:No one wants KD btw except for the Knicks but then again they're desperate for anyone

The KD we all knew is officially gone. He'll come back in 2021 as a shell of his former self. The achilles tear on a guy who utilizes mobility the way KD does is a death sentences in this game unfortunately.

KD will re-sign and return as an Allstar but not MVP. He'll drop 23-24 ppg as dirk double.


Pretty much. I can see him coming back as a good 2nd option and a great 3rd option.
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#46 » by KHRICH » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:38 pm

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KHRICH wrote:Hilarious to see lebron nut huggers celebrate this but hate warriors for assembling a monster


I'm not celebrating this, but...a team that missed the playoffs trading assets for an MVP-caliber player is pretty different than a 73-win team signing an MVP-caliber player without losing any major talent.

Not targeting you specifically just in general the same people complaining about 3 top players together are wanting AD lebron and Kemba together or butler. The 73 wins is meaningless considering everyone always feels the regular season is pointless 73 dont mean a thing without a ring.
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Re: Lakers still have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#47 » by VCBC » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:39 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
sogood wrote:
Read on Twitter
Edited topic to make it more accurate. I was 2.5 million off and apparently it's me posting fake news.

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KD max is 35% cap, they're ~6mn short
Kawhi max is 30% cap, they're just short

And that's if AD waves his kicker

So the most accurate topic is

"If AD waives his trade kicker, Lakers still almost have a max slot, don't bother watching NBA next season"
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Re: Lakers still have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#48 » by Spens1 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:39 pm

SFour wrote:
XTC wrote:Damn Kawhi to LA looking real!

Thanks for the championship Kawhi! Glad we won this year instead of facing this super team in LA LOOL!!!


you really think Kawhi is the type to join a superteam? I don't think so.


He'd get the keys to the franchise however and Lebron is only going to be around for two more years.

Also someone is going to have to face that monster in Philly that's coming (a year more together and that core could come in and win 70 games next year).
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#49 » by Anti Chalmers » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:40 pm

Lebron and AD is enough to win especially with GSW potentially being out of the picture next year
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Re: Lakers still have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#50 » by Dr Aki » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:43 pm

VCBC wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
sogood wrote:
Read on Twitter
Edited topic to make it more accurate. I was 2.5 million off and apparently it's me posting fake news.

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KD max is 35% cap, they're ~6mn short
Kawhi max is 30% cap, they're just short

And that's if AD waves his kicker

So the most accurate topic is

"If AD waives his trade kicker, Lakers still almost have a max slot, don't bother watching NBA next season"


AD doesn't have to waive his trade kicker if the trade takes place after free agency, he can get his 4.1 mil bonus with the lakers
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Re: Lakers still have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#51 » by SFour » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:44 pm

Spens1 wrote:
SFour wrote:
XTC wrote:Damn Kawhi to LA looking real!

Thanks for the championship Kawhi! Glad we won this year instead of facing this super team in LA LOOL!!!


you really think Kawhi is the type to join a superteam? I don't think so.


He'd get the keys to the franchise however and Lebron is only going to be around for two more years.

Also someone is going to have to face that monster in Philly that's coming (a year more together and that core could come in and win 70 games next year).


I think Sixers will get weaker, one of Butler or Tobias will be leaving.....Butler to Lakers is a possibility if they give him the right contract.
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Re: Lakers still have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#52 » by Spens1 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:46 pm

SFour wrote:
Spens1 wrote:
SFour wrote:
you really think Kawhi is the type to join a superteam? I don't think so.


He'd get the keys to the franchise however and Lebron is only going to be around for two more years.

Also someone is going to have to face that monster in Philly that's coming (a year more together and that core could come in and win 70 games next year).


I think Sixers will get weaker, one of Butler or Tobias will be leaving.....Butler to Lakers is a possibility if they give him the right contract.


Well at least their isn't any kids left on our roster for Butler to bully :lol: I think with Kawhi on the table however, we must make him our priority and we must give him whatever he wants (and i mean anything he wants). Even with Lebron here, Kawhi Leonard would be our franchise player and for him, he won't have to front the media since Lebron will still do the media stuff. its a win-win for him.
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#53 » by Kurtz » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:47 pm

What free agents are out there that would take the near-max, fit with Lebron and AD, and be ok with being a clear 3rd option?

Don't think that's Kemba or Butler.

Maybe Vucevic?
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#54 » by Dan Z » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:47 pm

LeBron, AD, Kuzma and an third star is great, but I don't see it as the league might as well just crown them. They'll still be paper thin outside of the stars.
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Post#55 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:47 pm

I find it hard to believe AD will forfeit $4M for no reason lol. Unless there is a perfect fit of a player ready to sign or something. But still
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Re: Lakers still have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#56 » by VCBC » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:47 pm

Dr Aki wrote:
VCBC wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Edited topic to make it more accurate. I was 2.5 million off and apparently it's me posting fake news.

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KD max is 35% cap, they're ~6mn short
Kawhi max is 30% cap, they're just short

And that's if AD waves his kicker

So the most accurate topic is

"If AD waives his trade kicker, Lakers still almost have a max slot, don't bother watching NBA next season"


AD doesn't have to waive his trade kicker if the trade takes place after free agency, he can get his 4.1 mil bonus with the lakers
True

"Lakers are just short of a max slot regardless of AD waiving kicker"
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#57 » by amcoolio » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:47 pm

Kembas a poor fit for that team; it would be a shame to see him go there. He would just sit in the corner and shoot 3s.
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Re: Lakers still have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#58 » by Ramed Nazored » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:50 pm

SFour wrote:
XTC wrote:Damn Kawhi to LA looking real!

Thanks for the championship Kawhi! Glad we won this year instead of facing this super team in LA LOOL!!!


you really think Kawhi is the type to join a superteam? I don't think so.



They don’t have the money to sign him or any other star, for that matter. OP is wrong.
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#59 » by MrSparkle » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:58 pm

... I'm sure 35yo Lebron will be eager to wait around and see his window depend on Durant's return from a complete Achilles tear 1y from now.

And I'm sure Kawhi wants to play out-of-position with an old Lebron, Kuzma and Davis. He's clearly comfortable with hyper athletic switch-capable bigs like Ibaka, Siakam and Gasol. He's gonna get tired really fast of Lebron's matador mid-30s defense and whatever rag-tag of vet. min. scroungers they have trying to hustle.

Jimmy, Kemba or Kyrie. Neither of those trios scare anybody.
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Re: Lakers still nearly have cap for a full max (Kawhi, KD etc) 

Post#60 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:00 am

they have 27.7 mil available after the trade, not quite. Kawhi max is 32+, KD max is 37+

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