[Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick

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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#101 » by baldur » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:14 am

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Madhouse wrote:if they can get Beal, do it


I don't think the Wizards will trade Beal, but Ingram, Lonzo, Solomon Hill and the #4 works in the trade machine. I might offer that if I'm the Pelicans, but I'll admit...I'm not as big on Ingram and Ball as some people.

A Jrue Holiday/Bradley Beal backcourt would be quite good. I think this would also leave the Pelicans with some money to fill out the rest of the roster.


Lol. Do you even realize that package plus two late first rounders minis Hill's awful contract get you Anthony Davis?
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#102 » by John Murdoch » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:14 am

Dupp wrote:Beal worth much more than 4 imo

If they could dump wall tho at the same time it might be their best reset button
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#103 » by Dan Z » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:17 am

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Madhouse wrote:if they can get Beal, do it


I don't think the Wizards will trade Beal, but Ingram, Lonzo, Solomon Hill and the #4 works in the trade machine. I might offer that if I'm the Pelicans, but I'll admit...I'm not as big on Ingram and Ball as some people.

A Jrue Holiday/Bradley Beal backcourt would be quite good. I think this would also leave the Pelicans with some money to fill out the rest of the roster.


Lol. Do you even realize that package plus two late first rounders minis Hill's awful contract get you Anthony Davis?


No it doesn't. There are future picks that were involved and maybe even pick swaps. On top of that they got Josh Hart too.

Bradley Beal is a 25 year old all-star who just played in 82 games and scored 25 points per game. He's also signed on for two years. He's quite good.
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#104 » by Super Powered » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:19 am

If they trade #4 instead of Jrue... David Griffin is Dell Demps 2.0! Rushing another mother f**cking rebuild! Please no GOD NOOOOO!!!!
Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, Jaxson Hayes, Jrue Holiday, Brandon Ingram, Frank Jackson, Jahlil Okafor, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Kenrich Williams, Zion, JJ Redick, Nicolo Melli, Derrick Favors Nawlins fUtUrE!
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#105 » by baldur » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:20 am

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I don't think the Wizards will trade Beal, but Ingram, Lonzo, Solomon Hill and the #4 works in the trade machine. I might offer that if I'm the Pelicans, but I'll admit...I'm not as big on Ingram and Ball as some people.

A Jrue Holiday/Bradley Beal backcourt would be quite good. I think this would also leave the Pelicans with some money to fill out the rest of the roster.


Lol. Do you even realize that package plus two late first rounders minis Hill's awful contract get you Anthony Davis?


No it doesn't. There are future picks that were involved and maybe even pick swaps. On top of that they got Josh Hart too.

Bradley Beal is a 25 year old all-star who just played in 82 games and scored 25 points per game. He's also signed on for two years. He's quite good.


Getting rid of hill's contract is late first rounder. So one extra meaningless 29th pick remains as a difference. Plus Josh Hart. So if wizards offered Bradley Beal , Josh Hart and a late first rounder, they would have acquired Anthony Davis?
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#106 » by Axl Rose » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:24 am

clyde21 wrote:another interesting idea i had...turn Ball around to Chicago for WC3, and take Garland 4th.

Garland
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
WC3

Griff can really make something happen here if he's creativ


We're not trading Carter for Lonzo Ball. Thats crazy talk.
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#107 » by NavalAviator94 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:26 am

Take L Bro. You forgot about the picks and likely pick swaps after. I did as well when I read your tweet and then later duh hit me. Lol

Regardless, that would still be a huge hall for Beal that Washington would be stupid to pass up.
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#108 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:28 am

PrinceH wrote:I'm excited for this Pelicans team, just need a vet centre, if I'm the GM i'm packaging this in a deal for Marc Gasol and resign Jahlil Okafor he played well as a backup


Lol at the Pelicans flipping the #4 pick for C.J. Miles, Jonas Valanciunas, and Delon Wright, or equivalent value.

Trade Holiday, they aren't making the playoffs and Zion will sell just as many tickets with Holiday as without.
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#109 » by Dan Z » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:33 am

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Dan Z wrote:
baldur wrote:
Lol. Do you even realize that package plus two late first rounders minis Hill's awful contract get you Anthony Davis?


No it doesn't. There are future picks that were involved and maybe even pick swaps. On top of that they got Josh Hart too.

Bradley Beal is a 25 year old all-star who just played in 82 games and scored 25 points per game. He's also signed on for two years. He's quite good.


Getting rid of hill's contract is late first rounder. So one extra meaningless 29th pick remains as a difference. Plus Josh Hart. So if wizards offered Bradley Beal , Josh Hart and a late first rounder, they would have acquired Anthony Davis?


You're adding a pick in there. That wasn't my offer. And if Washington says no I understand. Like I said they're not trading him.

Put it to you this way. If I could get Bradley Beal and draft control (meaning 2 picks plus swaps) for the next 6 years (All Lakers draft) for AD then I'd do it. And I have more faith in Beal over Ingram, Ball and the #4.

Solomon Hill is in the deal only as a contract. It expires in a year. So does Ian Mahinmi's contract. That means the Wizards would shed a bunch of salary after a year. It also gives them a year to develop/try out players and let Wall recover.
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#110 » by Lalouie » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:34 am

Madhouse wrote:if they can get Beal, do it


they need a big. or at least a larger fellow than a puny guard
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#111 » by Mr Loggins » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:35 am

Jrue
Lonzo
Ingram
Zion
TRISTAN THOMPSON

Bring him home Griffin
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#112 » by John Murdoch » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:37 am

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:
PrinceH wrote:I'm excited for this Pelicans team, just need a vet centre, if I'm the GM i'm packaging this in a deal for Marc Gasol and resign Jahlil Okafor he played well as a backup


Lol at the Pelicans flipping the #4 pick for C.J. Miles, Jonas Valanciunas, and Delon Wright, or equivalent value.

Trade Holiday, they aren't making the playoffs and Zion will sell just as many tickets with Holiday as without.


Griff has extreme wood for Jrue , dudes not getting traded
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#113 » by Lalouie » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:38 am

pels can't go with another rookie. that's too f'ing young. they wouldn't be valid for 6 years.

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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#114 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:44 am

Pelicans should parlay the pick for more futures.

They can then outbid any team for the next Leonard or Davis to go with Williamson when he's ready.
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#115 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:48 am

baldur wrote:Don't understand why.

Aren't they just starting their rebuilding? It makes sense to select doumbuya and bol bol if they can get the 8th and 10th picks from the Hawks though.



They got the Lakers picks from now till 2046, they can afford to trade this one if they want to. They got the Lakers unprotected first in the Emoni Bates draft.
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#116 » by Hroz » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:13 am

All in on Beal

Ball and #4 for Beal? Seem fair?
Take Solomon and Randle to match salaries
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#117 » by HMFFL » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:29 am

The Hawks aren't giving up three first rounds to move to #4...lol
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#118 » by BuddyBuckets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:32 am

510TWSS wrote:Heard this week the Pels weren’t enamored with #4, be interesting what they could flip for it? Bamba+?


I hadn't considered this option, but it makes a tonne of sense if Orlando want Coby White or Garland. Wonder what Orlando thinks of Fultz at this stage..
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#119 » by FNQ » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:03 am

Think the Pels should keep it and take Culver.

Jrue / Ball
Culver / Hart / Jrue / Moore (buyout?)
Ingram / Hill (buyout?)
Zion / Randle
Randle / Okafor

Then pursue a defensive anchor at C. I'd be looking at reclamation projects like Noel/WCS/Holmes, or veteran stopgaps who play defense and rebound at high levels (MGasol, DAJ). Create a culture of lockdown defense. If they wind up starting Ball and Jrue in the same backcourt, all the better.
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Re: [Woj] Pelicans could trade the #4 pick 

Post#120 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:18 am

Madhouse wrote:if they can get Beal, do it


Why would they want Beal on a rebuilding team?

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