Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I]

[Duke4life831]

WS

1. Brandon Clarke 4.1
2. Jaxson Hayes 3.4
3. Terence Davis 3.0
4. Ja Morant 2.8
5. Matisse Thybulle 1.8
6. PJ Washington 1.7
7. Cam Johnson 1.4
8. Grant Williams 1.4
9. Daniel Gafford 1.3
10. Eric Paschall 1.3
11. Rui Hachimura 1.1
12. Tyler Herro 1.0
13. Zion Williamson 0.9

I don't understand why Jaxson Hayes is so damn high when it seems like every time I watch him play, he's getting roasted on defense. The rest of that list make sense though.

Players like Hayes tend to look very good when it comes to WS. Look at a guy like Robert Williams last year for Boston, had a WS/48 of .201 (Hayes is at .178). I think it probably has something to do with having high block and rebound numbers to go with a very high TS%. So just looking at the raw box score stats, they look like players that should get a ton more minutes. But in reality they may show some flashes of good play, but usually if they're out on the court for too long things start to get pretty ugly.

I dont think its a coincidence that the Pels started to win games once Favors came back and Hayes has seen a significant cut in his minutes. Not saying he is a horrible pick or anything like that, just that he is obviously very raw and isn't ready to contribute right now.

[yellowknifer]

Brandon Clarke is awesome. They should be giving him way more minutes.

[Buzzard]

Reddish had a decent rookie night but most of the damage offensively was done in the 1st half when he put up 18 points.
20PTS, 6 REB, 3 AST, 3 STL, 0 BLK

Mavericks shut him down in the 2nd half.

Hunter was out for personal reasons. I would be hard pressed to find one week were all five starters for the Hawks played every game.

[clyde21]

Coby: 33/3/2/1

Cam: 20/6/3/3

PJ: 16/7/4/1

[YelloC]

Lowry lol

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His hairline had already started receding.

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[VCfor3]

Ja hitting a bit of a rookie wall the past two games. Hopefully he gets out of his funk soon because the schedule is pretty brutal the rest of the way for Memphis.

[oldshoolballer]

Zion 25/4/3/1 in a 'slow' night

In only 29 minutes as well. His scoring per minute is pretty ridiculous.

Players already look intimidated by him he's getting a lot of easy baskets.It's scary to think how good he can be.He can realistically put up 30 points a game right now.

[NaturalThunder]

Coby White has had a pretty up-and-down rookie season (mostly down). But he just went for 33 for the second straight game.

Last 2 games:

34 min, 33 pts, 3 reb, 2 ast, 11/22 FG, 7/13 3P, 4/4 FT
34 min, 33 pts, 6 reb, 2 ast, 11/18 FG, 5/9 3P, 6/7 FT

[sfernald]

Zion making so many of his doubters on this GM board look like morons.

[akhan786]

Yeah there shouldn't be any doubt that in a vacuum, Zion is far and away the best rookie.

He deserves the ROY IF the Pels get a playoff spot. Make the kid work for it

[Young gun 6]

Going to be good to see Zion come up against Lakers 2 of the next 3 games.

Been beating up on some of the worst interior defense teams (albeit killing them and you can only play to your schedule), so keen to see how he goes against Lakers defense.

[Sebastian]

Coby will be a good heater off the bench in the future. Thinking Crawford 2.0 in terms of impact. Can go off for 30-40 some nights and finish games as one of your first options on offense. Will shoot himself into 30 mins of bench time other nights.

[clyde21]

Coby with another 33 bomb today...this guy is gonna be a monster scorer off the bench

[clyde21]

Zion making so many of his doubters on this GM board look like morons.

they're gonna slowly start disappearing

[GSP]

Yeah there shouldn't be any doubt that in a vacuum, Zion is far and away the best rookie.

He deserves the ROY IF the Pels get a playoff spot. Make the kid work for it

Morant has played like 40 more games. Zion is better but not to the extent that the difference in games wont matter. Barring injury Morant should win it even if the Pelicans take the 8 seed

Pelicans have won nearly 20 games without Zion and that was with them facing a multitude of other injured players in Favors, Jrue, Ball, Ingram. Favors was specially notable as without him/Zion they had no reliable big. Had to rely on Okafor whos garbage and Hayes whos a decent rook but still a 19yo rookie.

If Morant missed as many games as Zion, Memphis would have maybe a win or 2 more than the Warriors at best (theyre 1-5 without Morant FWIW only win against the Wolves, losses all blowouts) and wouldnt be anywhere close to position to make a playoff push

Itll be just like 2017 when Brogdon won it over Embiid despite not being as good a player

[ThunderBolt]

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Not really a shot at rookie of the year but possibly one of the steals of the draft so far.

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[E-Balla]

Zion making so many of his doubters on this GM board look like morons.

they're gonna slowly start disappearing

Not how it works. They'll multiply until he wins a ring and they won't go away until/unless he surpasses LeBron. This ain't an ordinary prospect, it's a GOAT level one. He'll never escape haters.

[Yuri36]

Yeah there shouldn't be any doubt that in a vacuum, Zion is far and away the best rookie.

He deserves the ROY IF the Pels get a playoff spot. Make the kid work for it

He was initially excluded from this poll because of his long injury but actually, you could have as well excluded him from it cause he's so far above any other rookie.
I'm especially very impressed by his basketball IQ and post game, he is VERY FAR from being only a physical beast.
Great great player and seems a great humble guy as well with a big desire to win (you can see that in the way he plays and in his interviews).

[Goudelock]

Coby with another 33 bomb today...this guy is gonna be a monster scorer off the bench

He had 25ish of that in in the first half too. I don't know if he's going to ever be an all star or not, but the guy can shoot the ball, he's tall, and he's fast as ****. White has a long career ahead of him.