G35 wrote:XxIronChainzxX wrote:AussieRules wrote:
He is TOP 10 ALL TIME. No question.
He's not. And he simply can't break into. His peak is not good enough and his longevity doesn't get him there. All he has are his # of titles, and 3 of them come when he played with an actual top 10 guy. Anyone else he's up against as a potential top 10 guy would have won in his place.
See? It's this nonsense that starts it all.
Was Shaq a top 10 player in 2000?
You only get ranked higher AFTER you win titles.
Like Dwyane Wade would not be ranked as high as he is if he only won the one title in 2006. Or does that mean Lebron was playing with a top 20 guy for two of his titles?
See this is they hypocrisy you see all the time.
The problem with Lebron is (and you'll see it in the responses) all the players he played with got WORSE playing next to Lebron.
All the players that played next to Kobe got BETTER. All the players who were better next to Kobe:
Shaq won his only MVP next to Kobe
Pau became more efficient and a better rebounder next to Kobe
Lamar Odom
Bynum
Ariza
Then you look at Lebron
Wade was worse
Bosh was worse
Love was worse
Kyrie bailed
There is a lot of pressure on Lebron to prove he can enable talent like Kobe did multiple times. Its easy to be ball dominant and stack stats...its much harder to enable your teammates to be great at the same time, which Lebron has not shown he can do......
Smush went from being one of the worst players of all time, to having his 2 best years next to Kobe. Then went back to being one of the worst players in history of the NBA after the lakers didn’t bring him back.