Was Antoine Walker really that good?

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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#61 » by Drygon » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:21 pm

Egg Nog wrote:Career 3fg%

32.5% on 4.8 attempts per game
32.9% on 4.1 attempts per game

One of those is Antoine Walker, the other is Kobe Bryant.


Kobblehead wrote:People don't realize how good a defender and passer Walker was in Boston.

His scoring efficiency was always garbage, but that was mainly a product of the era he played in. Nobody valued shot selection back then, not even the superstars of the era.


Agreed.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#62 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:42 pm

Pretty good player, but his ego and Rick Pitino ruined him. Good handles, decent passer out of the post. Only problem is that he was rarely in the post since Pitino told him to stay outside and shoot as many 3s as he wanted. Jim O'Brien tried to reign him in, but it was too late. Dude thought he was a "veteran All-Star" and became uncoachable in Boston.

I won't lie though - he was a fun player to use in NBA Live.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#63 » by homecourtloss » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:49 pm

Soulcatcher33 wrote:Antoine Walker is one of the most overrated and terrible chuckers of all time. He defines the saying, never took a bad shot in his life. He isn't a "product of the time" as someone said. He'd be the same player regardless of what era he played in.


Probably, but in today’s game, he wouldn’t be ALLOWED to take 20 shots per game and have 27% to 29% usage rates (unless a team was tanking). I think that’s what the poster meant.

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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#64 » by jpengland » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:09 pm

Terrible player with a bucket load of confidence. The worst combination.

I heard his shooting action described as somebody hurling a dead possum at a wall. That was pretty apt.

Worst player I have seen suit up for the Mavericks. He took shots repeatedly out of much better players hands without a care in the world.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#65 » by BNM » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:33 pm

He was my least favorite player back in the day. He was a slightly above average player who thought he was a superstar. His efficiency was terrible and the volume of shots he took was only justifiable in his own mind. His advanced metrics were terrible.

He was the kind of player you hate to play with, because you KNOW he's going to shoot WAY more than he should and not play a lick of defense.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#66 » by IgorK » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:41 pm

The_Hater wrote:
IgorK wrote:A chubbier Antawn Jamison who did less winning.


Im not sure ‘winning’ was the right direction to go here since Walker started for an NBA champion in Miami while Jamison never once got past the 2nd round.


I'm sure Toine's fat ass had much more to do with that ring than Shaq & Wade :roll:
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#67 » by The_Hater » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:10 pm

IgorK wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
IgorK wrote:A chubbier Antawn Jamison who did less winning.


Im not sure ‘winning’ was the right direction to go here since Walker started for an NBA champion in Miami while Jamison never once got past the 2nd round.


I'm sure Toine's fat ass had much more to do with that ring than Shaq & Wade :roll:


Your post was still wrong. Deflection and eye rolling doesn't change that.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#68 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:13 pm

When Ainge became GM he stated that the Celtics had one foundation player (Pierce) and quickly traded Antoine Walker away. That's all you really need to know.

I really believe to this day that Antoine Walker could have been a special player but had the wrong coach and GM (Rick Pitino). Pitino pretty much let Walker do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted and Antoine Walker's game never grew. Good player but really overrated.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#69 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:36 pm

Jim O'Brien is the coach that let Antoine do what he wanted.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#70 » by RoyceDa59 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:49 pm

Antoine Walker's biggest issue was lack of a 4-point line.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#71 » by Ree4erMadness » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:01 pm

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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#72 » by Ree4erMadness » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:02 pm

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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#73 » by bearadonisdna » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:28 am

Egg Nog wrote:Career 3fg%

32.5% on 4.8 attempts per game
32.9% on 4.1 attempts per game

One of those is Antoine Walker, the other is Kobe Bryant.


Lol, that seems relatively low volume considering kobe's rep.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#74 » by Diamondman07 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:10 am

Antoine play style was too early for the game. He was a stretch 4, when he was expected to be in the post. He took a lot of 3’s partly because his defender would be closer to the rim when he got the ball outside.

I’m a Kentucky and Boston fan so I should be singing his praises but I’m a realist. Walker wasn’t good, especially for the era he was playing in.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#75 » by JRoy » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:35 am

Solid handles, could pass when he felt the urge, not a bad rebounder.

Terrible defender, no leadership ability. Blew his millions and tried to get back in the league at 40.

Terrific example for young players on how not to do it.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#76 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:42 am

He invented modern NBA and analytics. He Shot threes because there were no fours.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#77 » by RCM88x » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:47 am

He's probably one of the worst All-Stars of all time. Definitely the worst x2 All-Star of all time.
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#78 » by IgorK » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:21 am

The_Hater wrote:
IgorK wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Im not sure ‘winning’ was the right direction to go here since Walker started for an NBA champion in Miami while Jamison never once got past the 2nd round.


I'm sure Toine's fat ass had much more to do with that ring than Shaq & Wade :roll:


Your post was still wrong. Deflection and eye rolling doesn't change that.


Didn't realize you're the singular entity who decides right and wrong around these parts :roll:
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#79 » by Slax » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:32 am

RCM88x wrote:He's probably one of the worst All-Stars of all time. Definitely the worst x2 All-Star of all time.

Worse than Kevin Duckworth and Steve Francis?
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Re: Was Antoine Walker really that good? 

Post#80 » by RCM88x » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:39 am

Slax wrote:
RCM88x wrote:He's probably one of the worst All-Stars of all time. Definitely the worst x2 All-Star of all time.

Worse than Kevin Duckworth and Steve Francis?


Francis is definitely a lot better than both these guys.

Duckworth though, he's pretty close. I might still say Walker because he was a x3 time All-Star to Duckworth's 2. But it's really hard to say, both are not good lol.
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