NBA Teams And NBA Era Team USA Have Lost 36 Times To International Teams

[JonFromVA]

An NBA expansion in to Europe would be banking that bringing NBA players over to Europe would boost interest, attendance, revenue, etc, like it does for the World Cup; but no point if they'd only draw 5000 fans to an arena not designed to extract maximum revenue, if fans aren't going to spend 1000's on luxury seats, or if local TV revenue wasn't up to snuff.

The NBA couldn't compete financially with the EuroLeague in Europe. No chance at all. None. They would only do it as a joint venture.

We will never find out if Europe doesn't demonstrate sufficient desire to attend and pay big bucks for an NBA level basketball product.

Looks to me like the most expensive tickets for the FIBA World Cup Championship in the Philippines were $600.

By comparison, the cheapest tickets to the NBA finals were $532.

So, there's an order of magnitude difference in scale there and yet, apparently there were a lot of empty seats because the prices were still too high for the local population and/or people traveling to the games to afford.

[sisibilio]

An NBA expansion in to Europe would be banking that bringing NBA players over to Europe would boost interest, attendance, revenue, etc, like it does for the World Cup; but no point if they'd only draw 5000 fans to an arena not designed to extract maximum revenue, if fans aren't going to spend 1000's on luxury seats, or if local TV revenue wasn't up to snuff.

The luxury boxes could be filled by corporations/sponsors but you still need at least some 5k regular Joes willing to pay several thousands euros for season tickets, i don't think there's market for that anywhere in Europe.
Plus the TV money would be peanuts in comparison, only football draws the big bucks.

[LuDux1]

This is all pretty new to me, just for my clarification when you say Mideast do you mean middle Eastern Europe or the levant/Mesopotamia/Arabian peninsula/etc.? Not remotely a shot at your usage, both apply, just interested and ignorant.

They plan to add between 2-4 teams in the UAE. 1-2 teams in Dubai, and 1-2 teams in Abu Dhabi. They actually already have one of the potential clubs that is in EuroCup (one of the 2nd tier leagues), that is moving there for this season.

If you mean Žiemelis; sorry, Vilnius Wolves, they may play one or few games there this season

[JonFromVA]

An NBA expansion in to Europe would be banking that bringing NBA players over to Europe would boost interest, attendance, revenue, etc, like it does for the World Cup; but no point if they'd only draw 5000 fans to an arena not designed to extract maximum revenue, if fans aren't going to spend 1000's on luxury seats, or if local TV revenue wasn't up to snuff.

The luxury boxes could be filled by corporations/sponsors but you still need at least some 5k regular Joes willing to pay several thousands euros for season tickets, i don't think there's market for that anywhere in Europe.
Plus the TV money would be peanuts in comparison, only football draws the big bucks.

It's not clear to me how/why Americans justify/afford tickets, but I know some get clever about it: like selling a playoff ticket for as much money as they spend on an entire regular season ticket package.

This is the puzzle, though, for the NBA or anyone who cares to invest in the future of Basketball in Europe. It reminds me a bit of the NBA back in the 1970's and the league got watered down by the ABA. Then the leagues merged and the 80's rolled around and we got our Bird/Johnson and then later Jordan. The thing is they didn't abandon the NBA to go play in another country.

So, there are some challenges to growing the sport.

[Wigginstime]

Only stat that matters

In 32 years the NBA has won 7 of 8 Olympics where NBA players play with the only loss being in 2004 where a teams whose primary scorers of Iverson and Marbury lost to a team lead by Manu Ginobli and Luis Scola.

[art_tatum]

How many games have they won though

[Mirotic12]

Real Madrid 127 - Dallas Mavericks 123

Overall loss number 36 for teams made of all NBA players, playing against international teams. Loss number 19 for NBA teams, and loss number 17 for NBA teams against EuroLeague teams.

[azcatz11]

Real Madrid 127 - Dallas Mavericks 123

Overall loss number 36 for teams made of all NBA players, playing against international teams. Loss number 19 for NBA teams, and loss number 17 for NBA teams against EuroLeague teams.

It doesn’t mean anything. MLB teams have lost to NCAA teams in pre season.

EuroLeague is still an inferior product which is why Shane Larkin was once the best player over there in 2019 and can’t sniff a cup of coffee in the NBA

[Mirotic12]

Real Madrid 127 - Dallas Mavericks 123

Overall loss number 36 for teams made of all NBA players, playing against international teams. Loss number 19 for NBA teams, and loss number 17 for NBA teams against EuroLeague teams.

It doesn’t mean anything. MLB teams have lost to NCAA teams in pre season.

EuroLeague is still an inferior product which is why Shane Larkin was once the best player over there in 2019 and can’t sniff a cup of coffee in the NBA

Is this the same Shane Larkin that just had a -47 personal box score in the EuroLeague?

[azcatz11]

Real Madrid 127 - Dallas Mavericks 123

Overall loss number 36 for teams made of all NBA players, playing against international teams. Loss number 19 for NBA teams, and loss number 17 for NBA teams against EuroLeague teams.

It doesn’t mean anything. MLB teams have lost to NCAA teams in pre season.

EuroLeague is still an inferior product which is why Shane Larkin was once the best player over there in 2019 and can’t sniff a cup of coffee in the NBA

Is this the same Shane Larkin that just had a -47 personal box score in the EuroLeague?

I mean...they were calling him 'Steph Curry' over there...but whatever you say

Watch on YouTube

[Mirotic12]

I mean...they were calling him 'Steph Curry' over there...but whatever you say

No, they were not calling him Steph Curry. Never ever happened. Not even once. Also, "over there"..............again, this is 2023. You need to get off the talking points from 1985.

And I don't recall Steph Curry setting the all time record for the worst on court off court plus minus in the history of the league.

So is that the new imaginary standard from NBA only fans? The worst plus minus in league history?

[azcatz11]

I mean...they were calling him 'Steph Curry' over there...but whatever you say

No they were not calling him Steph Curry. Never ever happened. Mot even once. Also, "over there"..............again, this is 2023. You need to get off the talking points from 1985.

2019 is = 1985? Watch the video. He was a legend over there.

[azcatz11]

Here is another example of a huge NBA bust dominating EuroLeague. I can keep posting if you'd like

Watch on YouTube

[Mirotic12]

Here is another example of a huge NBA bust dominating EuroLeague. I can keep posting if you'd like.

Yeah, no one on Earth, except you just now, has ever claimed that Wade Baldwin was "dominating" the EuroLeague. Go ahead and keep on making ludicrous level posts and claims. Maybe if you say it enough, it will actually come true, at least in your own mind.

[azcatz11]

Here is another example of a huge NBA bust dominating EuroLeague. I can keep posting if you'd like.

Yeah, no one on Earth, except you just now claimed Wade Baldwin was "dominating" EuroLeague. Go ahead and keep on making ludicrous level posts and claims. Maybe if you say it enough, it will actually come true, at least in your own mind.

No one in their right kind would claim to extrapolate pre season scrimmages mean anything either. But here you are…

[Mirotic12]

2019 is = 1985? Watch the video. He was a legend over there.

No, Shane Larkin is not a legend "over there".

List of EuroLeague Legends:

Theo Papaloukas
Juan Carlos Navarro
Ramunas Siskauskas
Sarunas Jasikevicius
Dimitris Diamantidis
Mirsad Turkcan
Felipe Reyes
Vassilis Spanoulis
Nikola Vujcic

The name Shane Larkin appears nowhere. Who knows though? Since he set the league's all-time record for the worst ever plus/minus, maybe they will make a special exception for him?


And again, "over there" is a stereotype from the 1980s. You are 40 years in the past.

[durden_tyler]

Here is another example of a huge NBA bust dominating EuroLeague. I can keep posting if you'd like.

Yeah, no one on Earth, except you just now claimed Wade Baldwin was "dominating" EuroLeague. Go ahead and keep on making ludicrous level posts and claims. Maybe if you say it enough, it will actually come true, at least in your own mind.

No one in their right kind would claim to extrapolate pre season scrimmages mean anything either. But here you are…

Can’t wait for the season to start. That should shut up Mirotic69 for 9 months.

Or maybe not. LOL

[druggas]

And again, "over there" is a stereotype from the 1980s. You are 40 years in the past.

It isn't a stereotype. It's a direction.