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Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:24 pm
by JAYZGOAT
What's everyone expectation of Hayward's upcoming season? He'll be two seasons removed from that horrific injury and another year in Brad Steven's system. Do you seem him getting back to his pre-injury form? And if he does, where does that put Boston in the east ?

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:26 pm
by TheBoi10
More mediocrity for $30+ million

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:30 pm
by Don Ford
His best year in Utah was 21/5/5 shooting 47%fg/40%3pt/84%FT. Don't see him getting anywhere near that again but I could see him being a 15/4/4 guy.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:30 pm
by iLLmatic860
Who?

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:31 pm
by JAYZGOAT
TheBoi10 wrote:More mediocrity for $30+ million


Serious answers please. Looking at how PG bounced back, I'm really curious to what Gordon will look like this season.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:32 pm
by JAYZGOAT
Don Ford wrote:His best year in Utah was 21/5/5 shooting 47%fg/40%3pt/84%FT. Don't see him getting anywhere near that again but I could see him being a 15/4/4 guy.


Which in theory would be the perfect 3rd option on a contending team, right?

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:32 pm
by Bologna Smasher
DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Who?


Aren't you paying attention? Jordan Haywood.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:37 pm
by Prokorov
Panic610 wrote:What's everyone expectation of Hayward's upcoming season? He'll be two seasons removed from that horrific injury and another year in Brad Steven's system. Do you seem him getting back to his pre-injury form? And if he does, where does that put Boston in the east ?


13/5/3 on 44/35/80 in 28ish minutes?

hard to really project on that team with so many shoot first guys (kemba, tatum, kanter...)

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:38 pm
by Don Ford
Panic610 wrote:
Don Ford wrote:His best year in Utah was 21/5/5 shooting 47%fg/40%3pt/84%FT. Don't see him getting anywhere near that again but I could see him being a 15/4/4 guy.


Which in theory would be the perfect 3rd option on a contending team, right?


If that contending team had valid 1 and 2 options, yes. The other problem is that most teams don't want to pay $33M for their 3rd option.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:49 pm
by RCM88x
He'll never get back to his pre-injury state, but he'll probably be better than last season. Who knows though.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:54 pm
by bisme37
According to the team he's been at the practice facility 7 days a week working out and he looks great. I think people don't realize he needed a 2nd surgery, so when last season began he'd only been recovering for a few months, not the whole year he was off. Hard to say what kind of stats he'll put up but I'm rooting for him and looking forward to a big bounce back year.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:01 pm
by kenwood3333
Continue to come off the bench and be a role player. Injury has robbed his career away. Its unfortunate but everyone has to face reality.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:02 pm
by bisme37
kenwood3333 wrote:Continue to come off the bench and be a role player. Injury has robbed his career away. Its unfortunate but everyone has to face reality.


Thanks, Nostradamus.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:05 pm
by SwatLakeCity527
It depends on the Celtic's system, imo. What made him so great in Utah is that he had a particular fit in an offense that was designed around selfless basketball and finding open shots.

He was never a "give me the ball and let me score" type of player, so if you are expecting that, you're going to be out of luck. He will give up the ball to someone with a better shot, but I don't know if the rest of the Celtics will do that for him in return.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:05 pm
by iggymcfrack
I'm not gonna say he'll be as good as he was in Utah, but I do think he'll regain some of that form. A lot of guys have one bad year off of an injury and he wasn't even healthy enough to play until right as the season was starting. He should at least be an above average starter even if he's not quite all-star level.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:31 pm
by Don Ford
bisme37 wrote:
kenwood3333 wrote:Continue to come off the bench and be a role player. Injury has robbed his career away. Its unfortunate but everyone has to face reality.


Thanks, Nostradamus.


Just gave his opinion. Kind of thought that was the point of these forums.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:38 pm
by bisme37
Don Ford wrote:
bisme37 wrote:
kenwood3333 wrote:Continue to come off the bench and be a role player. Injury has robbed his career away. Its unfortunate but everyone has to face reality.


Thanks, Nostradamus.


Just gave his opinion. Kind of thought that was the point of these forums.


No, he told everyone we all have to face the reality of his prediction of something that hasn't happened yet, a la Nostradamus.

Troll above said "more mediocrity for $30M" and I didn't say anything about that because it's an opinion. This guy is saying he knows the reality of the future and everyone has to accept it. Different thing.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:40 pm
by Crunch 99
Don Ford wrote:His best year in Utah was 21/5/5 shooting 47%fg/40%3pt/84%FT. Don't see him getting anywhere near that again but I could see him being a 15/4/4 guy.


Minor correction: I'd call that 16/17 season 22/5/4 on 47%fg/40%3pt/84% ft.

From the sounds of how his workouts are going, I suspect he will come back physically and mentally able to be the player he was, but it probably won't happen on the Celtics, who have a lot of guys looking to get theirs offensively.

15/5/5 on 46/36 shooting sounds about right to me for this season.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:42 pm
by dorkestra
Even though he's a Celtic, I hope he can get back to his pre-injury status. I can't see how anyone could predict his health with much certainty either way, but gotta hope for the best.

Re: Gordon Hayward

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:45 pm
by bisme37
SwatLakeCity527 wrote:It depends on the Celtic's system, imo. What made him so great in Utah is that he had a particular fit in an offense that was designed around selfless basketball and finding open shots.

He was never a "give me the ball and let me score" type of player, so if you are expecting that, you're going to be out of luck. He will give up the ball to someone with a better shot, but I don't know if the rest of the Celtics will do that for him in return.


C's system is predicated on the same things as Utah's system, we just got far away from that last season. So yeah, hopefully we'll get back to the chemistry, selflessness and ball and player movement that had us outperforming expectations in previous years. That is certainly Gordon's niche. I don't think many fans are expecting him to be an alpha iso scorer.